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[Don Vito Corleone]

the new glock pmags and the d-60 are interesting

a not shit hi-cap rotary could be neat

beyond that it will allow you to blow thru 20 bucks in ammo in about a minute....

Where is there coverage on this stuff online?

I love Magpul and their products but it is tough for me to see how their mags would be an upgrade from the Glock ones, which work perfectly and are already polymer (as compared to Magpul AR mags, where they are replacing an alloy mag with a more robust polymer one).

 

[rudeguy]

I have the bite again.

The striker fired Sig? Anything new and fun out there?

 

[Merad]

Looks like the Glock pmags will be cheaper for one thing. $15.95 MSRP so once the initial rush is over they will probably be $10-12. Also the pmags appear to be pure polymer while the Glock OEM mags are polymer around a steel tube.

 

[Zargon]

Looks like the Glock pmags will be cheaper for one thing. $15.95 MSRP so once the initial rush is over they will probably be $10-12. Also the pmags appear to be pure polymer while the Glock OEM mags are polymer around a steel tube.

exactly what I was going to post.

even at 16 bucks if it stays there, that's a steal

new oem glock mags are almost always 25-30 bucks.

I want to mess with some of the +8 mag extensions, but dropping 30 bucks on a new mag to do that too gives me some stomach ache's 😛

atleast I can use an OEM(if they wont work on the pmag's...maybe next year they will release larger ones if these sell well?!) and replace it with a pmag for much cheaper

it also might get glock to drop their pricing a little bit as well

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Looks like the Glock pmags will be cheaper for one thing. $15.95 MSRP so once the initial rush is over they will probably be $10-12. Also the pmags appear to be pure polymer while the Glock OEM mags are polymer around a steel tube.

The old Glock 17-round mags didn't have a steel tube (hence the fact that they don't drop free when the mag release is pressed). I do expect Magpul to have worked out the dropping free or they wouldn't have bothered to make these.

Fair point on the price. Frankly I don't worry a lot about that with pistol mags but it is a legitimate concern. I guess I find the stock Glock ones cheap since I paid something like $80 each for a couple of my pre-ban 17-round G17 magazines during the AWB era.

 

[highland145]

The old Glock 17-round mags didn't have a steel tube (hence the fact that they don't drop free when the mag release is pressed). I do expect Magpul to have worked out the dropping free or they wouldn't have bothered to make these.

Fair point on the price. Frankly I don't worry a lot about that with pistol mags but it is a legitimate concern. I guess I find the stock Glock ones cheap since I paid something like $80 each for a couple of my pre-ban 17-round G17 magazines during the AWB era.

Mine do when the mag is empty. Gen 1 I bought in 1991, IIRC. Looks like the metal just covers the back and half of the sides of the mag...U shaped.


$80...ouch.

 

[Zargon]

yeah most OEM mags now drop free I believe.

if the pmag ones don't they will be a failure, even at that price

 

[Bird222]

Red dot for AR. What do you suggest for a $200-$500 price range?

 

[Skel]

Red dot for AR. What do you suggest for a $200-$500 price range?

Aimpoint or Eotech. Between the two it's all on which looks better to you. I personally prefer the Eotech cause I'm a heathen..

 

[Svnla]

Yep.

1. MOS - Factory milled slides from Glock.
2. POTENTIALLY single stack 9mm from Glock
3. Sig Sauer releasing suppressors in 2015
4. P229 suppressor ready (suspect raised sights)

Hummm, if the new single stack 9 mm is about the same (size and handling) as the 42 (.380), I would get it and sell my 26 and buy a 17 as the full size.

Then a cheap 12 gauge shotgun will be next. Then a .308 rifle and then a 9 mm long gun and then AR 47 or 74. 😀

 

[Merad]

Fair point on the price. Frankly I don't worry a lot about that with pistol mags but it is a legitimate concern. I guess I find the stock Glock ones cheap since I paid something like $80 each for a couple of my pre-ban 17-round G17 magazines during the AWB era.

Yeah, I don't worry too much about pistol mags. All my Glocks are Gen 4s so they came with 3 mags and that's been plenty for me.

AR mags OTOH... I probably have about 40 even though I never come close to using that many. 😀

 

[irishScott]

So I took the .357 suggestions and ran with them, albeit in a slightly different direction. Put a bid down on a (very lightly) used pre-Remlin Marlin 1894C. Serial number indicates it's from the mid-90s.

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/1894centerfire/1894C.asp

Going to chew up almost all of my gun budget, but should last a lifetime and is 50 state legal. I've got the winning bid for now, but the auction's still got a few days to go and my remaining budget's getting slim. Wish me luck.

 

[Zargon]

Aimpoint or Eotech. Between the two it's all on which looks better to you. I personally prefer the Eotech cause I'm a heathen..

agree

if you want something with magnification, Primary Arms or Nikon P series.


the primary arms red dot at like 100 bucks is great, but it wont take the beating the aimpoint/eotech will

 

[corwin]

agree

if you want something with magnification, Primary Arms or Nikon P series.


the primary arms red dot at like 100 bucks is great, but it wont take the beating the aimpoint/eotech will

On that note...does anybody really beat their rifles up enough to damage their optics? I understand it for military, but for general use not so much...

I have a PA red dot and love it, my wifey bought me the 3x magnifier with flip to side mount for Christmas😀

I love it but sighting it in for distance kind of screws up CQ shooting, anybody know of a good sight with multiple aim dots for relative distance? Hope that sounds right...I swear I've seen them where the center dot is like 100yd then there are a couple below it for closer....hopefully you get my point

 

[irishScott]

On that note...does anybody really beat their rifles up enough to damage their optics? I understand it for military, but for general use not so much...

Come on, you know you like having gear ready for when that nuclear zombie hurricane asteroid hits. 🙂

Seriously though, there is a thrill from owning something that's bombproof or otherwise just top-of-the-line. Same reason people spend hundreds of dollars water cooling their PCs and a full work day overclocking them and tuning fan profiles.

 

[corwin]

Come on, you know you like having gear ready for when that nuclear zombie hurricane asteroid hits. 🙂

Seriously though, there is a thrill from owning something that's bombproof or otherwise just top-of-the-line. Same reason people spend hundreds of dollars water cooling their PCs and a full work day overclocking them and tuning fan profiles.

Maybe I'm just a cheap ass😛

I know they are damn good but I just can't justify the premium, now once I hit the lottery I'll have one mounted everywhere I can, but until then I want as cheap as I can that still works under "normal" conditions😀

I made the mistake of trying one of the really cheap reflex sights on my wife's AR, damn thing would hold zero for more than a couple rounds and completely broke in pieces after 3 trips out:\

 

[Merad]

So I took the .357 suggestions and ran with them, albeit in a slightly different direction. Put a bid down on a (very lightly) used pre-Remlin Marlin 1894C. Serial number indicates it's from the mid-90s.

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/1894centerfire/1894C.asp

Going to chew up almost all of my gun budget, but should last a lifetime and is 50 state legal. I've got the winning bid for now, but the auction's still got a few days to go and my remaining budget's getting slim. Wish me luck.

Very nice. A .357 or .44 lever action is on my short list. Now you have to get a .357 Blackhawk or Vaquero to go with it. 🙂

 

[Zargon]

On that note...does anybody really beat their rifles up enough to damage their optics? I understand it for military, but for general use not so much...

I have a PA red dot and love it, my wifey bought me the 3x magnifier with flip to side mount for Christmas😀

I love it but sighting it in for distance kind of screws up CQ shooting, anybody know of a good sight with multiple aim dots for relative distance? Hope that sounds right...I swear I've seen them where the center dot is like 100yd then there are a couple below it for closer....hopefully you get my point

PA makes some with that type of reticule, a 2.5x and a 4x

leupold has some coming out

acog's have that as well

 

[velillen]

On that note...does anybody really beat their rifles up enough to damage their optics? I understand it for military, but for general use not so much...

There's a lot of different times you want something solid. Hunting being probably one of the more common. Easy to drop a rifle or knock it against something. A cheap scope might lose zero or break.

That plus the "bombproof" optics usually have nicer glass and other features.

I usually stick to cheaper optics for the range toys and rifles i dont use much. Then get a nicer (eotech, vortex razor, vortex pst, ect) for rifles that see some abuse.

I love it but sighting it in for distance kind of screws up CQ shooting, anybody know of a good sight with multiple aim dots for relative distance? Hope that sounds right...I swear I've seen them where the center dot is like 100yd then there are a couple below it for closer....hopefully you get my point

You want a BDC reticule. Or bullet drop compensator reticule. Just ahve to find one that matches your prefered bullet wieght

 

[phucheneh]

Another update to the saga of my glorious Grand Power X-Calibur:

By means of H2O and gravity, I have now measured the SA trigger pull at what I can confidantly call 'two pounds flat'...plus or minus an ounce or two.

I took the modified gun out for the first time today and fired 150 rounds of American Eagle (Federal) 9mm range ammo flawlessly. The primers on the spent casings look like they've been bashed up pretty damn good...I am confident in this gun. This gun with a firm-but-gentle 2lb SA and a buttery-smooth 6-7lb DA trigger...

...unfortunately, I hit a snag of the non-critical 'how hard could it be?' stupid-simple variety. My rear sight (up/down adjustable 'Eliason' style) has shit itself. The rear blade (i.e. windage adjustable) is sliding back and forth freely. It seems that anyone running a decent amount of rounds through one of these is encountering the same issue. One guy said he just locktited his windage in place, which is arguably going to be the best type of remedy. I mean, shit, with an apparently loose rear sight, I was still shooting an acceptable grouping at 25m. Somewhere around 8-12" maybe, which ain't bad for a rock solid, rapid-fire-friendly 9mm semiauto.

 

[corwin]

You want a BDC reticule. Or bullet drop compensator reticule. Just ahve to find one that matches your prefered bullet wieght

That's it...couldn't remember what the hell it was called😛

I'll be damned if I can find a sight with one for any price I would consider "reasonable" though:\

 

[HumblePie]

There's a lot of different times you want something solid. Hunting being probably one of the more common. Easy to drop a rifle or knock it against something. A cheap scope might lose zero or break.

That plus the "bombproof" optics usually have nicer glass and other features.

I usually stick to cheaper optics for the range toys and rifles i dont use much. Then get a nicer (eotech, vortex razor, vortex pst, ect) for rifles that see some abuse.



You want a BDC reticule. Or bullet drop compensator reticule. Just ahve to find one that matches your prefered bullet wieght

Many of the less expensive optics will take that kind of abuse all day long and neither break or lose zero. Although I don't hunt, much of my family and friends do. Many have expensive eotech and aimpoints and many don't. The ones that don't haven't complained about their hunting optics when in the field yet either. Eotechs and aimpoints are designed to be driven over with a humvee level of abuse. For the stupid ass soldier that drops their gun in the road right before a moving convoy comes along and can't get to it. Most of the time their rifle and equipment is just fine. Nothing short of an eotech or aimpoint level quality/price will take THAT kind of abuse for sure. But as corwin points out, it's not exactly needed for most people. There are plenty of slightly lesser quality optics at a much cheaper price that will suffice for the level of abuse the average person will put their equipment through. Pretty much why I stopped visiting a bunch of the "gun" focused forums/sites out there. The mantra preached there is basically Eotech/Aimpoint or go home. And if you bought anything else you bought the equivalent of an airsoft gun optic only.

 

[pontifex]

I'm curious what you would be hunting with an aimpoint or eotech?
most people who hunt use regular style scopes, not red-dots, especially if you're shooting at any distance.

 

[HumblePie]

I'm curious what you would be hunting with an aimpoint or eotech?
most people who hunt use regular style scopes, not red-dots, especially if you're shooting at any distance.

That too.. Leupolds, nikons, and the like are what I see put on hunting rifles usually.

 

[HumblePie]

I'm curious what you would be hunting with an aimpoint or eotech?
most people who hunt use regular style scopes, not red-dots, especially if you're shooting at any distance.

Some people stack magnifiers on top of the eotechs, although some aimpoints come with some magnification.