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BladeVenom said:
Police went with Glock due to marketing, price, and a similar trigger to a revolver. The price of a used revolver was more than the cost to make a Glock. Glock was able to give police departments brand new Glocks for their used revolver. While 1911's are more expensive, and require more changes in training.

Some police officers still carry 1911s. 362 police agencies that allow 1911 carry, http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=268453
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Yep and Glocks aren't cheap anymore. Which is why police departments are moving away from them. San Antonio is moving to S&W M&P 40sw for what they issue. State police here use Sig Sauer 226's.
 
HumblePie said:
Yep and Glocks aren't cheap anymore. Which is why police departments are moving away from them. San Antonio is moving to S&W M&P 40sw for what they issue. State police here use Sig Sauer 226's.
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Police Depts. rarely pay for their pistols. Glock and Smith in particular usually do a straight trade for old guns for new ones. It's worth it to them to get their name out in the community and parts down the road.
 
boomhower said:
Police Depts. rarely pay for their pistols. Glock and Smith in particular usually do a straight trade for old guns for new ones. It's worth it to them to get their name out in the community and parts down the road.
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Not around here....

Still both Texas State police and San Antonio police as well as the county police are all going to be using guns with external safeties.
 
Just went to 3 different local gun stores looking for a P-01 or P-06 and they were all sold out. I thought I might have trouble finding them both at one store but never suspected that they would be completely gone.
 
400 rounds of 223 cancelled by Cabela's those motherf**ers! I'm tempted to burn my cabelas jacket and send them the ashes! Been waiting over 3 months for order to arrive and didn't care how long it would take and passed up other deals while waiting. Hope my experience persuades others from using Cabelas as a RELIABLE source to get ammo!

Cheers 🙂
 
irishScott said:
A Ruger Mark III would make a fine introductory pistol. .22 is cheap as hell, and the Mark III is accurate and reliable as you could ask for. But it is obviously a plinking/target gun.

There are servicible revolvers to a point. If you're willing to spend ~$100 more you could get a Charter Arms or possibly a used Smith & Wesson.
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Why is it obviously a plinker? If you were an intruder, wouldn't 22lr still make an impact on your will, and if accurate enough, destroy it entirely?

Sorry, I love my Ruger 10/22 and relegating the oldest continuously produced cartridge known to Americans as a "plinker" seems disingenuous at best.
 
Brigandier said:
Why is it obviously a plinker? If you were an intruder, wouldn't 22lr still make an impact on your will, and if accurate enough, destroy it entirely?

Sorry, I love my Ruger 10/22 and relegating the oldest continuously produced cartridge known to Americans as a "plinker" seems disingenuous at best.
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Ballistics and reality don't lie. Sure a .22 can kill, but it's not even in the realm of 9mm, let alone .40 or .45 in its deadly potential. For defensive use there are simply better options assuming you have a modicum of money.

In the heat of the moment I don't want to have to worry about an intruder's "will", and I want to minimize the need for extreme accuracy. I want to kill him as quickly and efficiently as possible, and .22 does not fit that bill relative to other options.

Name me one military unit, police department, or private security agency on the planet that has ever used a .22 LR as any sort of primary armament.
 
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ShreddedWheat said:
400 rounds of 223 cancelled by Cabela's those motherf**ers! I'm tempted to burn my cabelas jacket and send them the ashes! Been waiting over 3 months for order to arrive and didn't care how long it would take and passed up other deals while waiting. Hope my experience persuades others from using Cabelas as a RELIABLE source to get ammo!

Cheers 🙂
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Was it Remington® UMC® .223 Bulk Rifle Ammunition with Dry-Storage Box by any chance? I still have 400 on backorder from december that they haven't (yet) cancelled.
 
irishScott said:
Ballistics and reality don't lie. Sure a .22 can kill, but it's not even in the realm of 9mm, let alone .40 or .45 in its deadly potential. For defensive use there are simply better options assuming you have a modicum of money.

In the heat of the moment I don't want to have to worry about an intruder's "will", and I want to minimize the need for extreme accuracy. I want to kill him as quickly and efficiently as possible, and .22 does not fit that bill relative to other options.

Name me one military unit, police department, or private security agency on the planet that has ever used a .22 LR as any sort of primary armament.
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Name me one police department that defends their own homes and buys their own ammo.
 
Brigandier said:
Name me one police department that defends their own homes and buys their own ammo.
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?

I'm pretty sure every most police officers defend their own home, if necessarry, with their issue weapon or something larger. I also know plenty of cops who shoot off duty and very much buy their own ammo.

Fact is you will not find a single legitimate authority on self defense or home defense who will reccomend a .22 over other options; and if money is so tight that all you can afford is .22, I'm suprised you could afford a gun in the first place.
 
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HumblePie said:
So here is my latest that I just picked up...

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Slide to frame is tight. Everything looks polished and good. Only downsides I could see was a plastic full length guide rod and that I don't like wood for grips. Other than that it seems to be very impressive from an unboxing point of view. I'll have to throw down some lead this weekend with it and see how it performs. It's a job that someone has to do and it might as well be me.
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I wish I had read your post earlier, Buds was one of the shops I stopped by looking for the CZ's and I would have taken a look at that while I was there.

I'm not the biggest 1911 fan but at that price for a stainless one I would have been interested.
 
z1ggy said:
PSA: Just got ammo off cabelas website... got some .380 FMJ and BJHP and also some 9mm.

I also purchased a Bersa Thunder 380 today, too! Any one have any personal experience with it? I have heard good things. It's going to be my summer carry because I have a feeling the m&p9 is going to show through a T shirt.
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I had a Bersa Thunder. It was junk. Constant FTF and FTE. I got tired and sold it.
Have spoken with many fan boys and they all agree I got the one bad gun Bersa ever made.
 
irishScott said:
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I'm pretty sure every most police officers defend his/her's own home, if necessarry, with their issue weapon or something larger. I also know plenty of cops who shoot off duty and very much buy their own ammo.

Fact is you will not find a single legitimate authority on self defense or home defense who will reccomend a .22 over other options; and if money is so tight that all you can afford is .22, I'm suprised you could afford a gun in the first place.
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I could afford more, but I choose to spend money elsewhere. I have a 12 ga and a Ruger 10/22, a 22 pistol would be alright to me. If there is a pistol in a higher caliber around that price point, point me to it. I'd feel safe with a MKIII in my lock box, in my night stand. 22lr is tiny, but tiny pointed holes are better than none.

Bonus: Familiar with the caiber.
 
Brigandier said:
I could afford more, but I choose to spend money elsewhere. I have a 12 ga and a Ruger 10/22, a 22 pistol would be alright to me. If there is a pistol in a higher caliber around that price point, point me to it. I'd feel safe with a MKIII in my lock box, in my night stand. 22lr is tiny, but tiny pointed holes are better than none.

Bonus: Familiar with the caiber.
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A .22 is certainly infinitely better than no gun at all, but if I was in your position I'd keep that 12 ga closer than the .22. 😛

At the end of the day it's your choice. Not the choice I'd make, but that's no reason it can't work.
 
ShreddedWheat said:
400 rounds of 223 cancelled by Cabela's those motherf**ers! I'm tempted to burn my cabelas jacket and send them the ashes! Been waiting over 3 months for order to arrive and didn't care how long it would take and passed up other deals while waiting. Hope my experience persuades others from using Cabelas as a RELIABLE source to get ammo!

Cheers 🙂
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Did you check your email for messages from cabelas? I know some back ordered stuff i had after ~3 months or so they sent out an email stating (basically) sorry its taking so long and if you dont respond we will just cancel your back order. Could have happened to you if you missed that email.
 
velillen said:
Did you check your email for messages from cabelas? I know some back ordered stuff i had after ~3 months or so they sent out an email stating (basically) sorry its taking so long and if you dont respond we will just cancel your back order. Could have happened to you if you missed that email.
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I've had to do that with Sportsman's Guide. I believe it's actually something they're required to do, by law, if the back order goes past a certain time frame. Department of Commerce rule, perhaps?? :hmm:
 
shortylickens said:
I had a Bersa Thunder. It was junk. Constant FTF and FTE. I got tired and sold it.
Have spoken with many fan boys and they all agree I got the one bad gun Bersa ever made.
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huh...weird. Most reviews online said the gun was a good value and most youtube videos people praised it. Could have been a lemon. For $320 I would probably expect a few FTFs or FTEs. What ammo were you using?
 
pontifex said:
80% handgun? what is that?

I'm currently building a 1911 up from stripped frame and slide.
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It's a slab of aluminum 80% machined into a gun. It is not a firearm; you buy it and finish it yourself, quite literally building your own gun. As such, it has no serial, never must be registered and can NOT be sold to ANYONE as it can ONLY be possessed by it's creator.

It is very much different than a stripped lower. If you have the right jig, you can make an M16 lower, as long as you make no effort to create an automatic firearm.
 
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