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BladeVenom

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They call it that so they have an excuse to use it. The people in charge of wars for some reason dont want anyone to die.

Seriously wounding an enemy in a battle is better than killing them. A dead person can wait till the battle is over. A wounded soldier needs immediate treatment and evacuation, which costs manpower.
 

irishScott

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Seriously wounding an enemy in a battle is better than killing them. A dead person can wait till the battle is over. A wounded soldier needs immediate treatment and evacuation, which costs manpower.

Assuming the side of the wounded guy gives a shit. The reason we switched to 5.56 is because military studies back in the 60s found that most modern fights were within 50 yards and usually decided by the guy with the most bullets. And 5.56 is plenty lethal.

Of course all that has changed with Afghanistan, where half of the engagements are at > 300 yards (US Army study from 2009).
 

shortylickens

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Well theres two types of engagements in Afghanistan.
Long range fire-fights, and walking over an IED. And I know for a fact we are losing too many fine men to the latter.
 

HybridSquirrel

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So are there more common rounds that are mostly only used in revolvers? Like in semi autos I see .22, 9mm, and .45 a lot...but for revolvers I see weird shit like .357, .44, .38 special, etc.

What reasonably inexpensive (less than $700) revolver would you recommend for a first revolver?

For a revolver, I would recommend getting something in .357. That way you can shoot 2 calibers, .38 and .357. But you can't do it the other way around.

A Ruger GP100 is a one of the best revolvers around, and you can get it for about $400.
 

irishScott

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So are there more common rounds that are mostly only used in revolvers? Like in semi autos I see .22, 9mm, and .45 a lot...but for revolvers I see weird shit like .357, .44, .38 special, etc.

What reasonably inexpensive (less than $700) revolver would you recommend for a first revolver?

That "weird shit" you listed is some of the most common revolver rounds. Almost every police department used .357 service revolvers up until the mid-80s, some smaller departments still do. Its reputation as a man-stopped is up there with .45 ACP.

Another vote for the Ruger GP100.
 
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RampantAndroid

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So are there more common rounds that are mostly only used in revolvers? Like in semi autos I see .22, 9mm, and .45 a lot...but for revolvers I see weird shit like .357, .44, .38 special, etc.

What reasonably inexpensive (less than $700) revolver would you recommend for a first revolver?

The rounds you listed are the most common revolver rounds. .357 and .38 special can both be shot from a .357 revolver. .41 magnum is a rarer round but GREAT if you reload.

.44 special and .44 magnum can both be fired from a .44 magnum revolver. There are also .45 auto revolvers (crazy, but whatever floats your boat.)

Honestly, having fired 357 mag, 41 mag and 44 mag - 357 feels wimpy. My 41 magnum feels amazing, and the 44 magnum is an elephant gun. Fun, but impractical unless you're doing hunting with it.
 

BladeVenom

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Worth mentioning is the .327 Magnum. It can also fire the .32 H&R Magnum, .32 Long, and .32 Short. The advantage, beside the number of different cartridges it can fire is that you can get an extra round in the same size cylinder compare to a .357. Unfortunately it didn't catch on because of the popularity of the .357 and .38, and .32's haven't been popular for a long time.
 

BladeVenom

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So i'm watching The Walking Dead (NO SPOILERS!) and want a Colt Python. It's beautiful. But I have a feeling it's ridiculously out of my budget. :( I've heard theyre extremely desirable by collectors.

The nickel plated ones are even more expensive. Try gunbroker.com
 

QuantumPion

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So are there more common rounds that are mostly only used in revolvers? Like in semi autos I see .22, 9mm, and .45 a lot...but for revolvers I see weird shit like .357, .44, .38 special, etc.

What reasonably inexpensive (less than $700) revolver would you recommend for a first revolver?

Revolvers generally use rimmed cartridges so they stay in the cylinder properly. Semi-autos need non-rimmed cartridges in order to feed from a magazine correctly.

.38 spc/.357 magnum is the most common revolver caliber. They are the same bullet, the .357 just has a longer case and more powerful charge. Revolvers designed for .357 magnum can fire .38 special, which is cheaper and has less recoil for training.

Good first revolvers would be Ruger SP101 ~$475 or for cheaper, Rossi 971 for ~$350.
 

velillen

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Revolvers generally use rimmed cartridges so they stay in the cylinder properly. .

Uh what? Every revolver I know is centerfire not rimmed. Other than a 22. 38, 357, 44mag 500, 41mag are all centerfire rounds. A 357 round will work in a revolver or a semi auto long as the gun is designed for a 357.
 

kage69

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Assuming the side of the wounded guy gives a shit. The reason we switched to 5.56 is because military studies back in the 60s found that most modern fights were within 300 meters and usually decided by the guy with the most bullets. And 5.56 is plenty lethal.

Of course all that has changed with Afghanistan, where half of the engagements are at > 300 yards (US Army study from 2009).


There you go....
 

Merad

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kazaam said:
What reasonably inexpensive (less than $700) revolver would you recommend for a first revolver?

I'm in love with the Ruger Single-Ten. But it'll probably be a while til I can get one.
 

alkemyst

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The whole body armor debate is a bit stupid. You hit anyone in body armor with any accepted personal defense round and they are taking a pretty nice punch at the very least. Double tap and they are probably going to be f'd up long enough for you to get away.

Unless you are a high profile target or someone that knocked down a wasp's nest, no need for more.

The Colt Python is a legendary gun, it was marketed as such. The .44 Mag version is easier to find and not much different other than being a bit more powerful and harsher.