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[corwin]

The swat team surrounding shooter in new York.

Should have said that in the first place

 

[corwin]

I finally have a happy safe...1k 9mm, 1k .45, 1.5k .223, 250 .22 TCM, and 500 .38

Still hunting for more though

 

[HumblePie]

Some people are just tired of the zombie craze, think he went a bit overboard there though...

Personally I think that thing is ugly as sin with or without the letters, but if you like it:thumbsup:

Works for me. I like it because others think it's ugly. I also would like the 464 laminate marinecote version as well. The plain jane black receiver and wood just doesn't do it for me for some reason. Some are better than others though I think. Heck, I got that going for my mossberg 500 20ga in the picture below it. Plain black with wood furniture. Some guns I like it, some guns I don't.

 

[corwin]

Works for me. I like it because others think it's ugly. I also would like the 464 laminate marinecote version as well. The plain jane black receiver and wood just doesn't do it for me for some reason. Some are better than others though I think. Heck, I got that going for my mossberg 500 20ga in the picture below it. Plain black with wood furniture. Some guns I like it, some guns I don't.

We all have our preferences...and some of the special editions out there are pretty damn nice looking, my wife would do just about anything to get a hold of a P238 Lady but they just can't be found right now:\

 

[CurseTheSky]

Two of my favorite special editions:

Kimber Sapphire Ultra II

Kahr PM9 Black Rose Edition

Both pictures from Google Images.

 

[HumblePie]

We all have our preferences...and some of the special editions out there are pretty damn nice looking, my wife would do just about anything to get a hold of a P238 Lady but they just can't be found right now:\

They had that p238 lady at one of the Academy's the other week. And one of the LGS has it still, but they charge a bit more. In fact they have a ton of most of the P238 variations.

I got the "plain" p238 for myself because that was all I could find at the price point I wanted to pay. I would have taken the two tone or something else I liked, but what I got I like too. I posted earlier what I got for my girl. She has the p238 with the pink rubber hogue grips and the chromed stainless steel slide with some flowery laser etched designs.

 

[spidey07]

I finally have a happy safe...1k 9mm, 1k .45, 1.5k .223, 250 .22 TCM, and 500 .38

Still hunting for more though

It's a good start.

I REALLY need a safe. My shit is everywhere loaded and ready, when kids come over it takes me at least an hour to get it kid safe.

 

[corwin]

They had that p238 lady at one of the Academy's the other week. And one of the LGS has it still, but they charge a bit more. In fact they have a ton of most of the P238 variations.

I got the "plain" p238 for myself because that was all I could find at the price point I wanted to pay. I would have taken the two tone or something else I liked, but what I got I like too. I posted earlier what I got for my girl. She has the p238 with the pink rubber hogue grips and the chromed stainless steel slide with some flowery laser etched designs.

I wouldn't mind a "plain" one myself but they've been scarce here in central Texas...I can be patient though

 

[corwin]

It's a good start.

I REALLY need a safe. My shit is everywhere loaded and ready, when kids come over it takes me at least an hour to get it kid safe.

Yeah I've got a long way to go to catch up with some of you but a safe was a must for me with little kids...and it doubles to protect important documents too

 

[velillen]

I finally have a happy safe...1k 9mm, 1k .45, 1.5k .223, 250 .22 TCM, and 500 .38

Still hunting for more though

haha that will fill up fast enough dont worry! Mine is the same size and it filled up plenty fast. Though if i took the ammo out id have way more room for guns (which i might be doing soon)

and when you get more long guns you should check out these. Take out the shelf you have now and put Velcro on the bottom of the upper shelf and they go in the bore. Works well. Lets ya fit more guns in and have access to them a bit easier
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0056GW5EC/ref=oh_details_o01_s01_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

[exdeath]

FML...

I'm now talking myself into a Barrett M82A1...

Someone remind me what else I can get with $9k.

 

[JackBurton]

FML...

I'm now talking myself into a Barrett M82A1...

Someone remind me what else I can get with $9k.

Nothing! Go with the Barrett. That thing is awesome! I'd love to have one.

 

[RampantAndroid]

FML...

I'm now talking myself into a Barrett M82A1...

Someone remind me what else I can get with $9k.

10 bullets to shoot through the M82.

 

[BladeVenom]

Someone remind me what else I can get with $9k.

Multiple custom guns. A class 3 Mac-10 or .22 machine gun.

I like the Barret, but I don't think I would ever actually buy one.

 

[boomhower]

FML...

I'm now talking myself into a Barrett M82A1...

Someone remind me what else I can get with $9k.

If you've got the room to stretch it's legs go for it. If your only going to 300 yards don't waste your money.

 

[shortylickens]

I didnt know Ruger was ranked so highly.


http://imgur.com/a/LQ3Q0

 

[CurseTheSky]

I didnt know Ruger was ranked so highly.


http://imgur.com/a/LQ3Q0

I've been happy with their stuff. They're not my favorite, but I have a really hard time finding faults with their products given the prices.

 

[corwin]

I didnt know Ruger was ranked so highly.


http://imgur.com/a/LQ3Q0

That doesn't surprise me, what I find surprising is the amount of relative unknowns (to me at least) that are in there like Daly or Caracal...or some I didn't even know made handguns like Steyr and Armalite (maybe AR pistols?)

 

[corwin]

I've been happy with their stuff. They're not my favorite, but I have a really hard time finding faults with their products given the prices.

I'd say the same thing for Taurus (yes I know, the hate is incoming) especially for the price...though I haven't had a single problem with any that I've fired ever except one that didn't like some really cheap crappy Russian ammo once

 

[BladeVenom]

I didnt know Ruger was ranked so highly.


http://imgur.com/a/LQ3Q0

Ruger makes more guns than any other US manufacturer. They make over a million guns a year now.

 

[pontifex]

I didnt know Ruger was ranked so highly.


http://imgur.com/a/LQ3Q0

those don't make sense. so manufacturer A is ranked highest in terms of quality and reliability but manufacturer c is ranked highest for recommendation to a first time buyer?

Also how is Glock so low in the semi-auto manufacturers? lol

 

[HumblePie]

those don't make sense. so manufacturer A is ranked highest in terms of quality and reliability but manufacturer c is ranked highest for recommendation to a first time buyer?

Also how is Glock so low in the semi-auto manufacturers? lol

Glock has some major shortcomings.

First off, the price. At one time Glock got their fame for being an utterly durable and reliable firearm for a fair price. That last part is no longer true. At around $550+ on average for any Glock, they aren't in the fair price range anymore. Heck, they aren't in the competitive range either with S&W, Springfields, Rugers, and other firearms of the same design in the $400 range.

Second, the grip angle that Glock guns have, isn't the most natural pointing angle for many people. Not that a person can't get used to the angle, but it is not the most ergonomic either.

Third, many glocks have 1 problem in there inherent design. Limp wristing. Due to their combination of grip angle, very heavy overbuilt slides, and extremely lightweight grip frames, they are prone to limp wrist malfunctions. In fact, a shooter can intentionally cause a limp wrist malfunction 100% all the time with certain Glocks. Any all metal gun design, and many of the other polymer guns from other manufacturers do not suffer the same design flaw of limp wrist malfunctions as Glocks do. Why is this a big deal? It isn't if all you plan to do is shoot the gun at a range. So long as you never limp wrist, the Glock will never malfunction. But in a self defense situation the likelyhood of limp wristing a shot goes up. Being forced to shoot with only 1 hand, or shooting from a prone/pinned position all increase the likelihood of the shooter having to fire "limp wristed" with their gun in a defensive situation. Imagine this situation. You are driving along the highway and switch lanes while forgetting to use your blinker. The driver behind you gets absolutely infuriated and busts a road rage vein in their forward. They are so pissed they are now literally OUT TO KILL YOU. They ram your vehicle from behind forcing your car into a spin. As your car hits the guardrail they ram into the exposed driver side of the car narrowly missed in killing you outright with their car. Seeking to finish it hands on, the road rage driver gets out of their car and comes at you. Your condition is one of someone stuck in their seatbelt, pinned into position, broken arms and collarbones, and barely able to reach your gun to defend yourself. Have fun shooting to defend your life in that situation with a Glock.

One of the main reasons people buy a gun is the contingent need that they will have to defend their life or the life of another. The vast majority of people in America will never need to use their gun for that reason. Especially those not living/working in major metropolitan cities with high crime rates. However, if you are going to buy a firearm for a low statistical rate of a contingent scenario, why limit yourself to only being able to fire the gun reliably when you are in a position to not limp wrist the shot? Personally speaking, I'd rather own a gun that fits more self defense scenarios, even the extreme ones, than not.

Oh well, that's my spiel on Glocks. I might buy one if they were cheaper for the hell of it. But why buy one when I can get something better for cheaper?

 

[gorobei]

those don't make sense. so manufacturer A is ranked highest in terms of quality and reliability but manufacturer c is ranked highest for recommendation to a first time buyer?

Also how is Glock so low in the semi-auto manufacturers? lol

recent gen4 brass to face issues are still part of zeitgeist. gen2 had some chipped extractor issues on the g21. technically none of these issues affected the gun's ability to fire, but could show up in a survey depending on how intellectually honest the respondent was.

the format of the survey could easily affect the results. reliability and performance cover a lot of subjective area and unless there was some sort of mathematical averaging for people who own multiple models from the same manufacturer you could see some skewing (1 guy owns say 5 glocks, had an issue with 1 or them, is that represented as 20% of an issue or counted as 1 issue)

i'm very surprised to see smith up there on pistols. most of their 3rd gen metal framed guns were pretty mediocre in grip ergo and accuracy(very low on the hierarchy during the wondernine era). not sure how good their latest gen is or if their polymer models have eclipsed metal stuff.

 

[BladeVenom]

30 years ago, Glocks seemed high tech, now they just seem generic. If you've owned one Glock, you've owned them all. So they are no longer particularly desirable.

Besides all that, they aren't any more reliable than any other good gun.

I was watching the vids of Shot Show 2013, and Glocks malfunctioned more than any other gun.
FTF, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3gXmp8taMc
another FTF, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQOyAq82mAg
I think this was another FTF, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EPhFRj-ZnU
3 out of the 4 Glock videos I watched from Shot Show 2013, Glocks malfunctioned. Those are their best handpicked Glocks checked by their best armorers, and they couldn't even make them reliable for the largest gun show.

 

[Farmer]

Glock haters. Why are there so many?