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clamum said:
P229. I thought it was a 226 at first too but I moused-over the link and it said "229". After I looked at it closer, it is smaller than a 226.
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Interesting. I hate to say it but I think it's kinda ugly, though I prefer my boomsticks black or SS. Still, it is a Sig so you know that regardless of the exterior it's beautiful on the inside 😉
 
Spike said:
Interesting. I hate to say it but I think it's kinda ugly, though I prefer my boomsticks black or SS. Still, it is a Sig so you know that regardless of the exterior it's beautiful on the inside 😉
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You'd probably like the Enhanced Elite, Elite Dark, or Elite Stainless better.

The wood grips on the Elite Stainless are quite nice as well.

I bought the Scorpion because a) I like FDE/TB/G10 in a 9mm package, and this offers all that from the factory, and b) I paid 33% under MSRP, which is still a good amount under the street price on a less common handgun. People are selling new Glocks for $600+ in this market.
 
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Spike said:
Interesting. I hate to say it but I think it's kinda ugly, though I prefer my boomsticks black or SS. Still, it is a Sig so you know that regardless of the exterior it's beautiful on the inside 😉
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Recent (last 10 years) reports of Sig quality after the management chain says it's only beautiful on the outside...
 
kazaam said:
Think I'm going to the range soon, yay! I need to look up tips or something before I go considering how awful I was last time. Probably couldn't hit an intruder if he was more than like 5 feet away from me lol. Wish I had money for a class. 🙁
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I don't know who's the best firearm instructor on Youtube, but I know Ruger had some. http://www.youtube.com/user/RugerFirearms I learned to shoot before Youtube. I learned weaver, I think everyone teaches isosceles now.
 
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Stupid hoarders, I can't find steel case 308 anywhere....I need to test out my PTR in order to see if I need to send it back/RMA it for a soft trunion or not.

I have 2 boxes...that isn't enough for a good test. 🙁
 
jpeyton said:
You'd probably like the Enhanced Elite, Elite Dark, or Elite Stainless better.

The wood grips on the Elite Stainless are quite nice as well.

I bought the Scorpion because a) I like FDE/TB/G10 in a 9mm package, and this offers all that from the factory, and b) I paid 33% under MSRP, which is still a good amount under the street price on a less common handgun. People are selling new Glocks for $600+ in this market.
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I would probably like the stainless better. I was not trying to hate on your new baby, especially if you got it for a steal and like the color, I just have never really liked that scheme.

Crazy about the glocks. I was finally thinking about getting a glock after years of avoiding them and when I saw the prices I said no way. At those prices I might as well pay a little more and get a P226. I love my XD 45 but I really want a 9mm in something for "cheap" plinking... at least cheap when the prices and inventory come back under control again.

I'm so desperate for .22 ammo I ordered CCI 22 shorts from sgammo last night... shorts! At least they will work in my .22 bolt action, too bad the 522 won't use them.
 
kazaam said:
Think I'm going to the range soon, yay! I need to look up tips or something before I go considering how awful I was last time. Probably couldn't hit an intruder if he was more than like 5 feet away from me lol. Wish I had money for a class. 🙁
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BladeVenom said:
I don't who's the best firearm instructor on Youtube, but I know Ruger had some. http://www.youtube.com/user/RugerFirearms I learned to shoot before Youtube. I learned weaver, I think everyone teaches isosceles now.
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Yeah isosceles seems to be the most popular. That's fine because it is quite flexible and symmetric but I am kinda moving towards a Weaver type stance. I like that one arm is straight behind the gun to take the recoil, and the other as a support and providing opposite pressure (backwards) on the gun.

kazaam: I think the biggest thing that helps accuracy, as I'm assuming that's what you're talking about, is trigger control. Dry fire (snapcaps optional) and note if you're jerking at all. The trigger should go straight back. It sounds easy and simple but it does not take much movement to throw off a shot.
 
BlitzPuppet said:
Stupid hoarders, I can't find steel case 308 anywhere....I need to test out my PTR in order to see if I need to send it back/RMA it for a soft trunion or not.

I have 2 boxes...that isn't enough for a good test. 🙁
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Cabela's website had the Herter's/Tulammo stuff in stock for a day or two. But at 60 cents/round, you might as well buy brass.
 
kazaam said:
Think I'm going to the range soon, yay! I need to look up tips or something before I go considering how awful I was last time. Probably couldn't hit an intruder if he was more than like 5 feet away from me lol. Wish I had money for a class. 🙁
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Tip 1: if you really want to see results when you eventually get to the range, dry-fire. Do it now. Keep doing it. Concentrate and make every shot a good one, the same as you are going to shoot on the range.

Tip 2: by now you are (painfully) aware of how much just a single range trip costs in ammo. Taking that into account, you should also understand that any book or video or piece of equipment that produces an improvement in your shooting is almost certainly a bargain. (If you aren't yet convinced of dry-firing being crucial, cost-benefit analysis could help there as well.)

Tip 3: pick up "Practical Shooting" by Brian Enos. In short, it's about learning to shoot. It's not beginner-oriented, or technique-oriented, but it still covers pretty much all the detail you could need (on subjects like grip, stance, sight picture, trigger). About half is directly relevant to a beginner, and the rest is interesting and entertaining even if us mere mortals cannot apply it in practice.
 
Pia said:
Tip 1: if you really want to see results when you eventually get to the range, dry-fire. Do it now. Keep doing it. Concentrate and make every shot a good one, the same as you are going to shoot on the range.

Tip 2: by now you are (painfully) aware of how much just a single range trip costs in ammo. Taking that into account, you should also understand that any book or video or piece of equipment that produces an improvement in your shooting is almost certainly a bargain. (If you aren't yet convinced of dry-firing being crucial, cost-benefit analysis could help there as well.)

Tip 3: pick up "Practical Shooting" by Brian Enos. In short, it's about learning to shoot. It's not beginner-oriented, or technique-oriented, but it still covers pretty much all the detail you could need (on subjects like grip, stance, sight picture, trigger). About half is directly relevant to a beginner, and the rest is interesting and entertaining even if us mere mortals cannot apply it in practice.
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Good tips. I ended up getting snap caps for my handguns and use those to practice dry fire and cycling the action. You don't need them for centerfire but for rimfire they are a must if you want to dry fire at all (or more than a VERY few times).

One of the pieces of advice that I got on shooting that I still use is squeezing the trigger slow enough that the "break" is a surprise. I know, once you know your gun well it's never truly a surprise but if you vary the pressure your still not 100% sure when it will break. This has helped me control any recoil reflexive jerking. That and having someone throw in a snap cap or 2 into my mag when I'm not looking.

Have fun!
 
Biggest thing that will help new shooters:

1) Only use the pad of your finger tip on the trigger, not the joint. Biggest improvement here
2) Use a firm two handed thumbs forward grip maintaining as much contact with the gun with your hands as possible (careful of the slide). Lots of videos on this.

Grip and trigger finger are probably 90% of it.

I used to be terrible with hand guns (was trying to shoot them like rifles, slow on trigger, lose grip, etc) and once I focused on this I can rapid fire as fast as possible and all rounds are inside a salad plate on target.
 
velillen said:
Got anything to trade for 22lr 🙂😛
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I have a fair number of 7.63x39 new production steel cased rounds (HP and FMJ) but thats about it. The rest of my ammo/firearms I'm keeping for the moment. I do want to sell my Savage .17hmr (standard black stock) in order to buy a different model Savage .17hmr (wood stock with thumb hole and SS barrel) but I can't afford the new model right now so I have to keep the old one.

I just hope in another 6 months things are settled down enough, and my finances are good enough, that I can stock up on some items. Not jpeyton level stocking up mind you, but somewhere above what I have been able to do so far.
 
kazaam said:
Haha, "jpeyton level stocking up." 😛 Gives us something to aspire to.

Question: if you had to choose any carry gun, what would you get? Obviously something small and light, but what? Some kind of Glock?
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I'd go for a CZ P-06 assuming you have the build/clothing to be able to conceal a compact. As far as subcompacts go the CZ 2075 is interesting to me since it is 14+1 rounds of 9mm but I haven't held one in person or done any reading on it.
 
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I'd go for a CZ P-06 assuming you have the build/clothing to be able to conceal a compact. As far as subcompacts go the CZ 2075 is interesting to me since it is 14+1 rounds of 9mm but I haven't held one in person or done any reading on it.
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That 2075 interests me as well some. I am interested in the sub compacts, some of them at least, for various reasons. I have a couple of p238's and like them. I wouldn't mind trying out a p938, that cs 2075 rami (not the polymer version), and the MPA protector 2. That protector 2 is the smallest of the small. Even smaller than the almost impossible to find seecamp. I don't want to get one of those NAA 2 shot cricket derringers. But regular semi auto small pistols I wouldn't mind comparing to find something when even the p238 is too big to use with my clothing.
 
spidey07 said:
January NICS numbers are in. Huge number. Just imagine what it would be if the supply wasn't so limited?

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/reports/20130205_1998_2013_monthly_yearly_totals.pdf

2,495,440 in January alone.
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I believe it. Fulton Armory is back-ordered over 6 months and Stag Arms over a year. Assuming Feinstein's bill dies, it's going to take quite some time for the market to recover to reasonable levels.

Hell I even checked gunbroker, a Stag Arms Model 3 that has an MSRP of ~$900 is going for $2400.
 
kazaam said:
Haha, "jpeyton level stocking up." 😛 Gives us something to aspire to.

Question: if you had to choose any carry gun, what would you get? Obviously something small and light, but what? Some kind of Glock?
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Depends on the method of carry.

For pocket carry: Sig P238

For anything else: Sig P938 or Springfield XDS (in .45 ACP)
 
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