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crownjules

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Clearly this is what you should do:

Give her the cupcakes and then ask her out on a date. If she does reject you, casually mention as you're walking away that you'll just have to throw out the antedote to the poison.
 

SaltBoy

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Originally posted by: InlineFour
:music:my cupcakes brings all the girls to the yard:music:
Hey, that was actually funny! Seriously, use that line just to be funny and to relax. If you're going to be all nervous around this girl, you won't get anywhere with her.
 

FDF12389

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Originally posted by: InlineFour
let's pretend she accepts the offer. i'm afraid i might run out of things to talk about when we're out somewhere. how do people end up talking with someone for 2+ hours?

Ask open ended questions, for example.

You: Are you going to college?
Her: Yes
Both: Uncomfortable Silence

~OR~

You: So what are you going to college for?
Her: Blah Blah blah blah


Example #2:

You: Do you have a cat?
Her: No.
Conversation ends.

~OR~

You: So do you have any pets?
Her: Yes!! I have a cute littel puppy dog, sometimes he goes roof roof bark bark and the neighbors cat!! MAn I hate my neighbors, they had the nerve to actually...............

Conversation contines.
 

SokaMoka

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Originally posted by: FDF12389
Originally posted by: InlineFour
let's pretend she accepts the offer. i'm afraid i might run out of things to talk about when we're out somewhere. how do people end up talking with someone for 2+ hours?

Ask open ended questions, for example.

You: Are you going to college?
Her: Yes
Both: Uncomfortable Silence

~OR~

You: So what are you going to college for?
Her: Blah Blah blah blah


Example #2:

You: Do you have a cat?
Her: No.
Conversation ends.

~OR~

You: So do you have any pets?
Her: Yes!! I have a cute littel puppy dog, sometimes he goes roof roof bark bark and the neighbors cat!! MAn I hate my neighbors, they had the nerve to actually...............

Conversation contines.

LOL nice simulation.
 

ColdFusion718

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Think of it this way, if you wait the answer is no. If you wait, she might lose interest and then another guy catches her eye. If you wait, you'll probably be placed onto the "friends" ladder (go look up the ladder theory).

If you wait, you run the risk of investing too much time/emotion into something that might not bear fruit (you are investing a lot of time now since you posted on ATOT and from the looks of it, checks for new replies often).

Just ask her out for a bite to eat--you've got nothing to lose (ok, maybe if she says no your ego will be bruised a little but you'll just get stronger this way). Good luck.

Keep us posted. Btw, can you get pics?

 

Sukhoi

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i had the muffin sitting on my desk and when she came in she was like "OH, you made me muffins!" then we talked for a little. most importantly, she was laughing and smiling when we talked. i asked her how did it taste, she said they tasted great, but honestly, i thought they tasted like sh!t. i didn't ask her on a date because i thought that we didn't know each other well enough to consider a date

Bah you blew the whole chance. The whole point of the date is getting to know the other person.
 

dude8604

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Originally posted by: InlineFour
i'll see how things go after a week or so. also, anyone here who's also a late bloomer? (never had a girl friend until you were 18+)

I'm 20 and still no g/f.
 

InlineFour

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Originally posted by: dude8604
Originally posted by: InlineFour
i'll see how things go after a week or so. also, anyone here who's also a late bloomer? (never had a girl friend until you were 18+)

I'm 20 and still no g/f.

some people are meant to be single. :(
 

xanis

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Originally posted by: InlineFour
Originally posted by: dude8604
Originally posted by: InlineFour
i'll see how things go after a week or so. also, anyone here who's also a late bloomer? (never had a girl friend until you were 18+)

I'm 20 and still no g/f.

some people are meant to be single. :(


hear hear!
 

SokaMoka

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Originally posted by: InlineFour
Originally posted by: dude8604
Originally posted by: InlineFour
i'll see how things go after a week or so. also, anyone here who's also a late bloomer? (never had a girl friend until you were 18+)

I'm 20 and still no g/f.

some people are meant to be single. :(


:slaps InlineFour; DUDE don't use that attitude if you want to get through this as a winner, if you use that attitude especially around her she will spit you out like an out of flavor gum.

Do you really think relationships buy you happiness ? Then you are a fool.
If there is something that gets you happiness then it's building a family with someone that you know for sure has a life time commitment to you.
But this relationship BS usually ends soon before you can start enjoying it.

I have gone through way more relationships than you can count and they were all the same, you will end up regretting everyone of them, as at the end you will know the btch you were seeing / trying to impress wasn't worth a piece of an onion.

BUT what you benefit from this is that you build you character and get first hand experience with the snakes of this world, now God forbid you stumble across a straight down to earth girl then you will not need to learn or do anything or read some lengthy articles about it nor post a YAGT thread about it, you will get the hints from her right away.

A straight down to earth girl well treat you like she likes to be treated, and will not play ****** games with you and will not send you encrypted messages that you will have to hire cryptologist to decipher, with a straight forward girl all messages are in plain text for you reading pleasure.

I used to know an honest girl once, we had something special going , well she passed away in a car crash RIP
rose.gif

I think she was the last one of them, they are officially extinct I think.

But hey I have grown up from all that BS, I realized that I am perfectly happy with myself, thats it, I don't need a winy btch to make my life harder.

Most guys think that God hates them because they don't have what it takes to get a gf, It's a sad thing to realize that they are just BLESSED!

 
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Originally posted by: SokaMoka
I used to know an honest girl once, we had something special going , well she passed away in a car crash RIP
rose.gif

I think she was the last one of them, they are officially extinct I think.

Sorry to hear that :(
 

SokaMoka

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Originally posted by: George P Burdell
Originally posted by: SokaMoka
I used to know an honest girl once, we had something special going , well she passed away in a car crash RIP
rose.gif

I think she was the last one of them, they are officially extinct I think.

Sorry to hear that :(

That's ok , it was a while back.

But as far as I know she was the only girl to ever cross my path that didn't like to play the traditional hide and seek games and whatever BS out there there is, she just loved me for who I was and for my honesty and I loved her for her's but it just wasn't meant to be I guess, but life goes on :)
 

saahmed

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Originally posted by: InlineFour
when it comes to talking with girls, i'm extremely shy. i rarely talk to girls at school, yet alone after school. i've always "kinda" liked this girl at school but was never brave enough to talk to her. today, however, she started to have a conversation with me. we talked for a little until class started. since i have a foods class before this hour, she always started out the conversation with something about foods, such as "what did you make for me today". later in the day, i saw her again in the halls (halls were empty, just me and her) and she was like "you better bring me some cupcakes tommorow". so does this girl show interest in me? i'm completely cluess when it comes to girl. i'm 18 btw just to show you how worthless i am. :(

the next day:
i had the muffin sitting on my desk and when she came in she was like "OH, you made me muffins!" then we talked for a little. most importantly, she was laughing and smiling when we talked. :) i asked her how did it taste, she said they tasted great, but honestly, i thought they tasted like sh!t. i didn't ask her on a date because i thought that we didn't know each other well enough to consider a date.


Man, I am just like you. I think there have been a few girls in my past who have shown interest in me but I have always been way to shy to do anything.
 

imported_Phil

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1. Ask questions. Women like to blither on about themselves. Keep 'em talking and you're branded a Good Listener.

2. Body language. Look for things like her touching her hair when talking to you. Maintain eye contact as much as you possibly can without being creepy.

3. Bring up something she mentioned a few days later. She'll think you're an even better listener. "Hey, I was thinking about what you said about <xyz> the other day...." Ding!

4. If the cupcakes taste sh!t, stop giving them to her. You don't want her to be ill. If she asks for more, then sure, whatever. She might have weird tastes.

5. Be direct. Make a joke, something like that. If and when she's done laughing, look her straight in the eye and ask what she's doing tomorrow night. If the reply is "nothing much" then say something like "there's a new <whatever> place on <street>, fancy checking it out with me?". Bow-chica-chica-bow-wow....

If the reply is "I'm busy", ask her when she's free next. If you ask "how about the day after?" and "how about the day after that?" you're appearing desperate. Let her tell you when she wants to go out. If she's perpetually busy but genuinely appears to like you, she's either genuinely busy or not sure about the whole thing. Wait a week or two, try again.
 

Sukhoi

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So back to the topic summary of this thread. Yes she is probably interested in you. Ask her out before you get dumped into the friend zone or she loses interest. Don't wait weeks to do this.
 

DanTMWTMP

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Originally posted by: Solarium
Originally posted by: SokaMoka
As hard for to admit it, but from my experiences the girls that I have treated nicely and MUCH more than they deserve ended leaving me for some guy with a sht load of pirecings on his member and TATOOS all over his body and rides a bike, and woudn't give 1/2 of sht about treating a girl nicely, all they care about s that they use the girls as they use their bikes you got it.

Yes most girls just like the BADASS type of guy with no future, it drives me crazy but there you have it these are the type of guys getting the girls nowadays.

Well, those badass types of guys may just have more of the time to figure out women than average Joes who spends most of his time working so he can spend it on the women he tries to impress. I see many websites trying to break down women's emotions one by one. While they are indeed entertaining and educational, they are putting theories and thoughts onto something more raw and innate to humans. Sometimes human relationships cannot be broken down by words or theories, and can be only felt and experimented.

For example, if you see a pretty girl sitting in the library looking at you whom you want to hit on, and analyze the situation on your chance of being with her/is she worth breaking your balls for/will you have enough guts not to look stupid, by the time you finish thinking about the situation she would have probably left thinking what a pussy you are. The correct thing to do here is probably just go out there and ask her out, hoping you don't make too big of a fool of yourself, but ending without any regrets because you are doing this to gain more experience for the next time you see a pretty girl you want to fvck. It will hurt you more if you start to doubt your abilities than getting rejected but understanding that you did what you thought was impossible, and in the end gain confidence in yourself.

That being said, I?m going to put some theories in anyway?

Many times intelligence is actually hindering most men to get laid. They are analyzing too much and not trying hard enough just to test themselves. The guy who wrote the ladder theory probably in the end hasn't developed a good way to actually pick up chics and get laid, but rather he just comments on how girls think (don?t mind the 4 rejections in 25 years, he might have just been too afraid to ask out more girls ). The real deal of getting laid cannot be just simply theorized - it's more like learning to driving a car, there's the written exam and there's the part where you have to do it. The more you drive a car, the more you are unconsciously driving it. Even though the theories helps you to understand the rules better, you pretty much have to do it over and over without the fear of rejection to actually get better at it. Getting girls is more about time and effort to fine tune it than to think about it and write it down to plan what you're going to do. Too many men are either too lazy/wussy/busy not being able to commit their lives to improve themselves so they can fvck more, like going to a mall and just make yourself talk every single girl that you potentially can fvck to practice not getting nervous in front of hot girls, waking up every morning to hit the gym for 1 hour to get your 6 pack and big biceps, or even going everywhere and try to get phone numbers from every girl you see just to learn how to cope with rejection. Getting booty will pretty soon become a second nature, provided you have enough time to commit yourself and have no shame.

The ladder theory?s power/money insight is mostly correct. But they undermined a certain point, that women want a man she can brag to her girlfriends about. Bragging about "He's the owner of <insert big sounding company name>," and "He has a 3 million dollar house" to her friends is probably more important than the truth of the company being some garbage disposal company with you being the only worker, and the 3 million dollar house cost you 3 million dollar yen instead of dollars. Granted these are exaggerations but you get the idea.

Attraction matters more than money, at least for younger women before they start wanting to raise babies. These women, who are the majority of the hotties out there, just want a man who can take them on a joyride so they can experience the most variety of men before getting married, preferably an artist, outlaw bikerider, kungfu master, etc. Perhaps they want an outlaw bikerider just because they know that in the future they're going to marry the opposite of him to raise kids, so they should get him while they still can before they settle down. The ladder theory's novelty/power insight on this is pretty accurate in that an artist generally embodies novelty and an outlaw biker power.

Girls also show attraction to those who can get other girls very easily (another form of power), though they themselves not want this, since they want to keep those men for themselves. The more you prove to her that you are capable of getting other girls, like screwing her friend or hitting on girls in front of her, the more she's willing to please you in order to keep you with her, and therefore attracted to you. Keep in mind that the word attraction has a different meaning used here - it's more used toward the way that she's protective of you of other women by showing you she can be a better fvck, showing attraction, than being attracted to you because she like men who cheats on her.

Another thing I've found out is that there are benefits of either presenting yourself as an asshole or a nice person to girls who you?re interested in. If you're a nice person, more girls are going to talk to you, but you won't know if they're treating you as a potential fvck or as an intellectual whore. As an asshole, the girls talking to you won't be expecting you to do anything nice for them anyway, and thus as a result the only girls who wants to be with you are ones who wants to fvck you, successfully filtering out those who are wasting your time.


lol peter.


hmm. I suppose you can listen to this dude. I've known this bastard sine I was 10 yrs old or so.

He used to be a lot more reserved and conservative (ehh, not so shy, but still a bit shy) than he is now. In just a few years time, he changed so he can get some. I suppose, it should be a very deterministic goal for every dude here.

After he didn't give two sh!ts about being rejected, and turning this whole deal into a numbers game....

Result? ----> buttsecks?yes.lol. ---> everyday @ Vegas.



<<<<your cous has a cous-complex on you!!!>>> :Q :Q :Q i did not say that duuuuuude! when it's working for your own family members, then you know IT WORKS! (ehh...)

and edit your damn post, the paragraphs near the bottom are kind of incomprehensible on the point you're trying to give off. :p friggin Peter. I'm gonna tell this to BL and TheJames to readss this.
 

SokaMoka

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Feb 24, 2006
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Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
Originally posted by: Solarium
Originally posted by: SokaMoka
As hard for to admit it, but from my experiences the girls that I have treated nicely and MUCH more than they deserve ended leaving me for some guy with a sht load of pirecings on his member and TATOOS all over his body and rides a bike, and woudn't give 1/2 of sht about treating a girl nicely, all they care about s that they use the girls as they use their bikes you got it.

Yes most girls just like the BADASS type of guy with no future, it drives me crazy but there you have it these are the type of guys getting the girls nowadays.

Well, those badass types of guys may just have more of the time to figure out women than average Joes who spends most of his time working so he can spend it on the women he tries to impress. I see many websites trying to break down women's emotions one by one. While they are indeed entertaining and educational, they are putting theories and thoughts onto something more raw and innate to humans. Sometimes human relationships cannot be broken down by words or theories, and can be only felt and experimented.

For example, if you see a pretty girl sitting in the library looking at you whom you want to hit on, and analyze the situation on your chance of being with her/is she worth breaking your balls for/will you have enough guts not to look stupid, by the time you finish thinking about the situation she would have probably left thinking what a pussy you are. The correct thing to do here is probably just go out there and ask her out, hoping you don't make too big of a fool of yourself, but ending without any regrets because you are doing this to gain more experience for the next time you see a pretty girl you want to fvck. It will hurt you more if you start to doubt your abilities than getting rejected but understanding that you did what you thought was impossible, and in the end gain confidence in yourself.

That being said, I?m going to put some theories in anyway?

Many times intelligence is actually hindering most men to get laid. They are analyzing too much and not trying hard enough just to test themselves. The guy who wrote the ladder theory probably in the end hasn't developed a good way to actually pick up chics and get laid, but rather he just comments on how girls think (don?t mind the 4 rejections in 25 years, he might have just been too afraid to ask out more girls ). The real deal of getting laid cannot be just simply theorized - it's more like learning to driving a car, there's the written exam and there's the part where you have to do it. The more you drive a car, the more you are unconsciously driving it. Even though the theories helps you to understand the rules better, you pretty much have to do it over and over without the fear of rejection to actually get better at it. Getting girls is more about time and effort to fine tune it than to think about it and write it down to plan what you're going to do. Too many men are either too lazy/wussy/busy not being able to commit their lives to improve themselves so they can fvck more, like going to a mall and just make yourself talk every single girl that you potentially can fvck to practice not getting nervous in front of hot girls, waking up every morning to hit the gym for 1 hour to get your 6 pack and big biceps, or even going everywhere and try to get phone numbers from every girl you see just to learn how to cope with rejection. Getting booty will pretty soon become a second nature, provided you have enough time to commit yourself and have no shame.

The ladder theory?s power/money insight is mostly correct. But they undermined a certain point, that women want a man she can brag to her girlfriends about. Bragging about "He's the owner of <insert big sounding company name>," and "He has a 3 million dollar house" to her friends is probably more important than the truth of the company being some garbage disposal company with you being the only worker, and the 3 million dollar house cost you 3 million dollar yen instead of dollars. Granted these are exaggerations but you get the idea.

Attraction matters more than money, at least for younger women before they start wanting to raise babies. These women, who are the majority of the hotties out there, just want a man who can take them on a joyride so they can experience the most variety of men before getting married, preferably an artist, outlaw bikerider, kungfu master, etc. Perhaps they want an outlaw bikerider just because they know that in the future they're going to marry the opposite of him to raise kids, so they should get him while they still can before they settle down. The ladder theory's novelty/power insight on this is pretty accurate in that an artist generally embodies novelty and an outlaw biker power.

Girls also show attraction to those who can get other girls very easily (another form of power), though they themselves not want this, since they want to keep those men for themselves. The more you prove to her that you are capable of getting other girls, like screwing her friend or hitting on girls in front of her, the more she's willing to please you in order to keep you with her, and therefore attracted to you. Keep in mind that the word attraction has a different meaning used here - it's more used toward the way that she's protective of you of other women by showing you she can be a better fvck, showing attraction, than being attracted to you because she like men who cheats on her.

Another thing I've found out is that there are benefits of either presenting yourself as an asshole or a nice person to girls who you?re interested in. If you're a nice person, more girls are going to talk to you, but you won't know if they're treating you as a potential fvck or as an intellectual whore. As an asshole, the girls talking to you won't be expecting you to do anything nice for them anyway, and thus as a result the only girls who wants to be with you are ones who wants to fvck you, successfully filtering out those who are wasting your time.


lol peter.


hmm. I suppose you can listen to this dude. I've known this bastard sine I was 10 yrs old or so.

He used to be a lot more reserved and conservative (ehh, not so shy, but still a bit shy) than he is now. In just a few years time, he changed so he can get some. I suppose, it should be a very deterministic goal for every dude here.

After he didn't give two sh!ts about being rejected, and turning this whole deal into a numbers game....

Result? ----> buttsecks?yes.lol. ---> everyday @ Vegas.



<<<<your cous has a cous-complex on you!!!>>> :Q :Q :Q i did not say that duuuuuude! when it's working for your own family members, then you know IT WORKS! (ehh...)

and edit your damn post, the paragraphs near the bottom are kind of incomprehensible on the point you're trying to give off. :p friggin Peter. I'm gonna tell this to BL and TheJames to readss this.

No offense but what in BATMAN'S name are you talking about precisely ?
 

imported_Phil

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Originally posted by: DanTMWTMPlol peter.


hmm. I suppose you can listen to this dude. I've known this bastard sine I was 10 yrs old or so.

He used to be a lot more reserved and conservative (ehh, not so shy, but still a bit shy) than he is now. In just a few years time, he changed so he can get some. I suppose, it should be a very deterministic goal for every dude here.

After he didn't give two sh!ts about being rejected, and turning this whole deal into a numbers game....

Result? ----> buttsecks?yes.lol. ---> everyday @ Vegas.



<<<<your cous has a cous-complex on you!!!>>> :Q :Q :Q i did not say that duuuuuude! when it's working for your own family members, then you know IT WORKS! (ehh...)

and edit your damn post, the paragraphs near the bottom are kind of incomprehensible on the point you're trying to give off. :p friggin Peter. I'm gonna tell this to BL and TheJames to readss this.

What are you smoking?
 

DanTMWTMP

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: DanTMWTMPlol peter.


hmm. I suppose you can listen to this dude. I've known this bastard sine I was 10 yrs old or so.

He used to be a lot more reserved and conservative (ehh, not so shy, but still a bit shy) than he is now. In just a few years time, he changed so he can get some. I suppose, it should be a very deterministic goal for every dude here.

After he didn't give two sh!ts about being rejected, and turning this whole deal into a numbers game....

Result? ----> buttsecks?yes.lol. ---> everyday @ Vegas.



<<<<your cous has a cous-complex on you!!!>>> :Q :Q :Q i did not say that duuuuuude! when it's working for your own family members, then you know IT WORKS! (ehh...)

and edit your damn post, the paragraphs near the bottom are kind of incomprehensible on the point you're trying to give off. :p friggin Peter. I'm gonna tell this to BL and TheJames to readss this.

What are you smoking?


lol, it's roughly inside talk amongst friends of mine. Anyways, as he spends his days in Vegas, I was saying that Solarium gets some everyday... Just saying that his "theory" could have some credibility due to his results. Sorry, lol.