Originally posted by: knyghtbyte
I went out with a Japanese girl once (from Japan, i live in UK, she was studying here), and oh was she ever shy about 'there'........dunno if thats something asian girls are more shy about in general or just her, but if so sounds like the worst thing u can do man is to ASK if u can touch there......(im not saying just touch her regardless, i mean work up to it sensibly)
Japanese women I know a lot about and only within the last generation has open nudity of couples become more common...it's usually a lights out affair. This is sort of odd since you do have public bathing at the hot springs of a coed nature, but I guess it's distant and very brief (a quick disrobe and submerging).
You absolutely never never want to bring up asking a normal sexual act...you may have to ask for the first kiss if things are perhaps happening outside a date, but once you are past all that only the taboo things should be brought up...no matter how you spin it you are going to sound like 'can I stick my finger in it?' Move slow enough to read her signals...even the most timid woman will 'guide' you along with body language at the very least.
Oh, this works sometimes, u might wanna try this as a last ditch effort..........book a hotel room (NOT motel room) in advance somewhere far enough away from where u live so going home is not a possibility, also book dinner in the hotels restaurant (its gotta be a good hotel tho, preferably a known name one), tell her about the dinner and where it is (but not the room. tell her your going to treat her to a new dress as well in a shopping session during the daytime, get yourself some fancy togs too.......compliment her a lot, be polite and well mannered (even little things like always opening the door for her etc). Get to the hotel, have dinner, walk around the grounds/park afterwards, then head back to hotel for a light drink (not too much, dont wanna get brewers droop) then bingo, if she has gone this far thru the evening, just lead her upstairs and (in your style) GET POON!! (in my style) show the lady the meaning of pleasure with style........
downside, u need some money for this kind of deal, around £300 (US$500)...but hey, its a make or break way of finding out if she does want you or just cant find a way of saying 'leave me alone you twat'
Jesus I don't know if that is smart for anything but a ready and steady type girl...and even then if she's ready she's ready...this would only possibly push the issue and get her upset that she has to reciprocate (a situation you don't want to be in).
If you are going from pickups to out, you just hit the beach or park, your place/her place...in this situation that's what's expected usually, it's a niteclub, most aren't looking for a spouse (although it can happen).
I lump first dates into the above, only you are picking a place more 'sedate' so sex or at least making out isn't guaranteed....many women will purposely hold out even with they are numbering 10's of partners for their magic date number to make it no holds barred (usually three dates ... to make it to date three you probably have been shot down trying things on date 1 and 2 and if she is going to go out with you again she knows you are going to keep trying, she isn't stupid and usually this date she is hoping for it).
The third date usually has a way of getting dinner plans out to her saying 'know what, I have some food I can make at my place, why don't we just get a movie

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Now somewhere along this time you need to decide are you looking for action or monogamy. Usually many chicks are thinking this too and so often both people are looking for the opposite.
Many guys make the mistake of getting lucky and now thinking they need to shelter this girl from the world and need to honor her by eventually marrying her....many girls at this point are running
I go from wanting steadiness at times to just screwing around...you go on a lot of first dates and see who those are on the same page and who are wanting a boyfriend/father/husband.
Just don't ever spend a ton of cash on the first date with any girl unless you can afford it and you are just doing it for the fun of it.