YAEWWT - Yet another existing while white thread. AL pastor wants whites out

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Hayabusa Rider

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Is this pastor a racist? I'm not sure. He is a bad example because he could just be being controversial to drum up attention and a hooplah. Obviously he is a douchebag.

If a regular black person says something like this though, are they racist? It depends.

Do they think the white race is inherently inferior, or has characteristics that make it inferior? Then that is racist.

Or is that person basically saying 'fuck the power'? In that case it is not racist.

I'm going to disagree. If I hate blacks and I just do and I don't give a rats ass about how inferior they are or not, I'm just going to attack one for fun, that's not racist? Well yeah it is racist. Think about this. A bunch of black teens rapes a woman because she deserves it because she's white and doesn't say she's inferior. They can commit whatever terror purposefully targeting other races and it's not racism.

Nope nope nope. It is.
 

realibrad

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Is this pastor a racist? I'm not sure. He is a bad example because he could just be being controversial to drum up attention and a hooplah. Obviously he is a douchebag.

If a regular black person says something like this though, are they racist? It depends.

Do they think the white race is inherently inferior, or has characteristics that make it inferior? Then that is racist.

Or is that person basically saying 'fuck the power'? In that case it is not racist.

Wait, so saying that Black and White should not mix is not racist to you?
 

realibrad

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I'm going to disagree. If I hate blacks and I just do and I don't give a rats ass about how inferior they are or not, I'm just going to attack one for fun, that's not racist? Well yeah it is racist. Think about this. A bunch of black teens rapes a woman because she deserves it because she's white and doesn't say she's inferior. They can commit whatever terror purposefully targeting other races and it's not racism.

Nope nope nope. It is.

Actually, you are attacking the people because you think others should not be attacked, but that group can be because implicitly they are inferior. Raping the white woman would be the same. So that would actually be racist.
 

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People who were very literate started using "Spade" as code for black nearly 100 years ago. This isn't a word that is misunderstood and mistaken as something racist. This is something that was deliberately turned into something racist. To compare this to "niggardly" is false equivalency. The two have no comparison.
Holy crap, context, context, context. I've used the term "call a spade a spade" multiple times in my life and never felt there was anything racial to it. If I were around black people or a mixed group I would probably not use that phrase and use a rose is a rose or if it walks like a duck..... Now if you are using that phrase in a racial way that's a different story.
Now spade by itself, I've know to be racist term since I was maybe 10. But if I'm playing cards well then spade takes on a different meaning.

CONTEXT!
 
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realibrad

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Holy crap, context, context, context. I've used the term "call a spade a spade" multiple times in my life and never felt there was anything racial to it. If I were around black people or a mixed group I would probably not use that phrase and use a rose is a rose or if it walks like a duck..... Now if you are using that phrase in a racial way that's a different story.
Now spade by itself, I've know to be racist term since I was maybe 10. But if I'm playing cards well then spade takes on a different meaning.

CONTEXT!

Hmm... I did not realize you were a racist too. lol
 
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I'd posit that it is probably impossible for anyone to tell the difference between someone using it in a non-racist manner or in a racist manner and thus the intelligent thing to do is just not use the phrase at all.

I would disagree with this as my whole 45 years of life ive heard it many times but never in a racist way making it easy to tell it had no racial bias in the context of the conversation. But now that im aware if can be construde as racist i will refrain from using it myself.

All about the context its used in.
 

Zaap

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BS. He used a racist phrase (call a spade a spade) to describe "racist" blacks in a current thread. Full stop. He deserves to have it thrown back in his face while he continues his racist posting on this board.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_a_spade_a_spade

LOL! Everytime I look in here there's an astonishing display of ignorance that's just hard to believe. Here we have an asshole ignorant of a common phrase, who goes out of his bone dumb way to MAKE something racist... just so he can finger point and yell 'racist'.

Typical, but also telling of the type of bone stupid cesspool of ignorant dipshits he thought sure it would play to.

Carry on!
 
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_a_spade_a_spade

LOL! Everytime I look in here there's an astonishing display of ignorance that's just hard to believe. Here we have an asshole ignorant of a common phrase, who goes out of his bone dumb way to MAKE something racist... just so he can finger point and yell 'racist'.

Typical, but also telling of the type of bone stupid cesspool of ignorant dipshits he thought sure it would play to.

Carry on!

Wikipedia is written by white men of power, therefore, racist.
 
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Holy crap, context, context, context. I've used the term "call a spade a spade" multiple times in my life and never felt there was anything racial to it. If I were around black people or a mixed group I would probably not use that phrase and use a rose is a rose or if it walks like a duck..... Now if you are using that phrase in a racial way that's a different story.
Now spade by itself, I've know to be racist term since I was maybe 10. But if I'm playing cards well then spade takes on a different meaning.

CONTEXT!

How dare you use logic!!
 
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Zaap

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That's a nice cherry you've picked there. Too bad the rest of the story is how "Spade" and "Call a spade a spade" was deliberately turned into racist code for black people nearly 100 years ago. You missed those cherries while you were picking. I've already posted the link many times that explains this from an unbiased source.

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/09/19/224183763/is-it-racist-to-call-a-spade-a-spade

Fail.
YOU are the ONLY one that used it in a racial way ASSHOLE.

Its what you do, because that's who you are.

It someone says you're the pot calling the kettle black, you'd pretend that was racist too because you're ignorant AND and asshole.
 
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Amused

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Holy crap, context, context, context. I've used the term "call a spade a spade" multiple times in my life and never felt there was anything racial to it. If I were around black people or a mixed group I would probably not use that phrase and use a rose is a rose or if it walks like a duck..... Now if you are using that phrase in a racial way that's a different story.
Now spade by itself, I've know to be racist term since I was maybe 10. But if I'm playing cards well then spade takes on a different meaning.

CONTEXT!

The context was in describing "racist" black people in a thread that seeks to spread the misconception propaganda of "reverse racism." I fully took context into consideration here.
 

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ugly incel is so oppressed. anyways I read the thread as al pastor... as in...

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realibrad

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The context was in describing "racist" black people in a thread that seeks to spread the misconception propaganda of "reverse racism." I fully took context into consideration here.

So in your warped little mind, because race was being talked about, he must have known that Spade was a racist term and therefor must have meant it in a racist way. So even though the phrase is not inherently racist and can be used in its typical way that is not racist, he meant it in a racist way even though the context would not lead you to that conclusion. Well, it would not lead anyone but you apparently.
 
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So in your warped little mind, because race was being talked about, he must have known that Spade was a racist term and therefor must have meant it in a racist way. So even though the phrase is not inherently racist and can be used in its typical way that is not racist, he meant it in a racist way even though the context would not lead you to that conclusion. Well, it would not lead anyone but you apparently.

As I said, it was either blatantly racist, or incredibly tone deaf.

You insulting me will not change that fact. You do not use a phrase with a 100 year connection to racism to describe how white republicans describe black people and not be either stupid, or racist. (Why not both?)

And I wasn't the only one to think so. The post drew fire from more than just me in that thread... but yet again, you're clueless as to the facts.

This forum has a long history of white posters trying to mask their racism. Spades, thugs, animals, monkeys, and a whole host of other otherwise innocuous terms when used in context mean something completely different.
 

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As I said, it was either blatantly racist, or incredibly tone deaf.

You insulting me will not change that fact. You do not use a phrase with a 100 year connection to racism to describe how white republicans describe black people and not be either stupid, or racist.

And I wasn't the only one to think so. The post drew fire from more than just me in that thread... but yet again, you're clueless as to the facts.

You realize you are the only one that thought it was racist. Its not tone def when you are the only one.

Also, the history was not 100 years of it being used as a racist term. It was first used to say Black, but it was not inherently racist. It grew to become a racist word. So stop saying it was a racist word for 100 years as that is factually incorrect.

And, for the context of your interactions being what lead you to believe he used it in a racist way, I call BS as your clearly lack reasoning skills. You simply do not seem to understand what goes on around you.
 

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You realize you are the only one that thought it was racist. Its not tone def when you are the only one.

Also, the history was not 100 years of it being used as a racist term. It was first used to say Black, but it was not inherently racist. It grew to become a racist word. So stop saying it was a racist word for 100 years as that is factually incorrect.

And, for the context of your interactions being what lead you to believe he used it in a racist way, I call BS as your clearly lack reasoning skills. You simply do not seem to understand what goes on around you.

The usual suspects.

Tell me, do you believe widespread institutionalized racism against blacks exists in the US?
 
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UglyCasanova's comment Amused posted in post #16 is kind of brilliant in it's own right. One could read the context either way if you are looking for one or the other.

Amused really only sees the last 2 sentences which could be easily interpreted as pretty racist. But if you read the whole thing, the "call a spade a spade" makes sense in that context as well.

I personally don't think think it came across in a racist context myself. But i have learned that that phrase can be used in a racist context that i was not aware of before this thread. I knew the word "spade" by itself was bad in regards to calling someone black that word, but the whole phrase "call a spade a spade" has never been used racially in any conversation i've ever had in my life.

Id hate to own a garden and hire a black guy and tell him to "get a spade out of the tool shed". Amused head would explode even though there is nothing racist about that. :)
 

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UglyCasanova's comment Amused posted in post #16 is kind of brilliant in it's own right. One could read the context either way if you are looking for one or the other.

Amused really only sees the last 2 sentences which could be easily interpreted as pretty racist. But if you read the whole thing, the "call a spade a spade" makes sense in that context as well.

I personally don't think think it came across in a racist context myself. But i have learned that that phrase can be used in a racist context that i was not aware of before this thread. I knew the word "spade" by itself was bad in regards to calling someone black that word, but the whole phrase "call a spade a spade" has never been used racially in any conversation i've ever had in my life.

Id hate to own a garden and hire a black guy and tell him to "get a spade out of the tool shed". Amused head would explode even though there is nothing racist about that. :)

Actually, no. In the context of describing how white people would describe black people using the phrase "call a spade a spade" is racist. Full stop.

Using a spade in the garden or playing spades is not.
 
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Actually, no. In the context of describing how white people would describe black people using the phrase "call a spade a spade" is racist. Full stop.

Using a spade in the garden or playing spades is not.

I have no idea what "full stop" means. Are you saying that is where your brain shuts off?

And actually, yes. As i just said you see the last 2 sentences only and that is the end to you. That is describing how white people would describe black people using that phrase and would be racist if that is all the context one had. But if you read your whole quote of UglyCasanova his context is that white people call racists "racists" no matter their color, thus calling "a spade a spade" in its original context and meaning before the word "spade" become a derogatory word towards blacks applies.

Game. Set. Match....or is it full stop?
 

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Please. A certain brand of dipshit pulls this same stuff in nearly every thread that even borders on racial matters.

Flush-jhnnn can be counted on in *every* mention of anything to to with immigration to play the 'oh you hate icky brown people' (always his words) bullshit straight out of the agent doofus Playbook.

It's a tactic liberals love in their 'I'll just accuse others of being racist by BEING RACIST myself and say its how they are!' Playbook. I've seen lefties pull that same thing for years and they think its effective. This was a textbook example.

Its partially because they don't actually think much of minorities and think they're all too stupid to know the difference. "Hey you silly, scaredy cat minority! Did you see what I just said myself that that other guy over there thinks of you because I said so? Scandalous huh!"
 
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Please. A certain brand of dipshit pulls this same stuff in nearly every thread that even borders on racial matters.

Flush-jhnnn can be counted on in *every* mention of anything to to with immigration to play the 'oh you hate icky brown people' (always his words) bullshit straight out of the agent doofus Playbook.

It's a tactic liberals love in their 'I'll just accuse others of being racist by BEING RACIST myself and say its how they are!' Playbook. I've seen lefties pull that same thing for years and they think its effective. This was a textbook example.

Its partially because they don't actually think much of minorities and think they're all too stupid to know the difference. "Hey you silly, scaredy cat minority! Did you see what I just said myself that that other guy over there thinks of you because I said so? Scandalous huh!"

Nice logical fallacy you've got there. When called out for racism, accuse the accuser of being racist himself. "I know you are but what am I" is not a defense. It;s a pathetic case of projectionism from the side that has been blatantly racist and has literal Nazis marching in the street for them.