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YACS - Cop Shooting thread and Family wants answers

spacejamz

spacejamz

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Surprised no thread on this shooting that happened a few days ago in Arlington, Texas (between Dallas and Ft Worth)...

Gotta love the local headline "Arlington PD : Officer who killed teen had never fired weapon on duty"

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/loca...lled-teen-never-fired-weapon-before/31340485/

Wonder what the percentage of cops who have actually fired their weapon on duty is though? Originally, the article stated the cop never fired a weapon fire but later clarified he had not fired while on duty (implying he has fired on a range)...

Then another follow up article on how the teenager wasn't armed...
http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/crim...lls-car-dealership-burglary-suspect/31276509/

Article is complete with a picture of the 'victim' when he was much younger wearing a cute bow tie...(see upper left on article)....

Video footage later shows the victim vandalizing some cars (kicking in the windshield of a new vehicle) before driving his SUV into car dealer's show room (all of this happened around 1AM so the sunglasses probably weren't needed).
http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/loca...ance-video-christian-taylor-car-lot/31358617/

Guess the parents didn't see the answers they wanted in this video...

Even though the officers state he didn't comply with their orders to lie down, it was probably just a misunderstanding.. We will never know since their was no video footage of what happened during the actual confrontation.

Gotta keep the pot stirring...
 
I saw the story but was too busy to post in here.

I did LOL @ one of the relatives of the guy said he shouldn't be shot but the relative did not say anything about not to break into a car dealership early in the morning. Nothing about personal responsibility.
 
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I thought there was a thread about this. But either way, there is wayyy to much info missing to pass judgment yet. The only thing that is known is:
-Teen trespassed and committed property damage
-Police called for a burglary
-Teen drove a car into a building
-Teen was shot dead by police

Did he drive toward the officer? Did he drive toward security? Did the rookie officer get scared and shoot him when legally he had no right? Speculation is just speculation, focus on the facts as they are released.

""Upon arrival at the car dealership, officers found that a vehicle had been driven through the front of the building," said Sgt. Paul Rodriguez, a spokesman for Arlington police, in a statement released later in the afternoon. "Officers established a perimeter and approached the suspect inside. As officers confronted the suspect, there was an altercation during which at least one officer discharged his weapon.""

That's it. That is all that is known right now. Everything else is speculation.

Wait for the fed investigation to finish.
 
JSt0rm said:
Is the sentence for "not complying with an order to lie down" Death?
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If by 'not complying' means he might have attempted to take the officer's gun, then yes.

However, since details of the altercation haven't been released yet, no one (except the two officers involved) can say what the real reason is.
 
mizzou said:
That's it. That is all that is known right now. Everything else is speculation.

Wait for the fed investigation to finish.
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too bad the media doesn't wait...

With the BS headlines (Office never fired gun on duty) and using a picture when he was much younger wearing a bow tie are just inflaming the public and many fall for it hook, line and sinker...
 
spacejamz said:
If by 'not complying' means he might have attempted to take the officer's gun, then yes.

However, since details of the altercation haven't been released yet, no one (except the two officers involved) can say what the real reason is.
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Gives them plenty of time to make something up and get their stories straight.
 
What bothers me the most is the fact this guy seemed to be doing the right thing by going to college to make something of himself. So why would he do something completely crazy like try to steal a car from a closed dealership? He also looks a bit intoxicated in the videos. But there is no way he didn't know what he was doing was wrong, in spite of that fact. And he was even warned to leave by the security company over the speakers before the cops ever arrived, too.

Meanwhile, locally, this is now a huge issue, with nobody who is protesting willing to acknowledge the fact he shouldn't have been there trying to steal a new car, in the first place. If he wasn't there breaking the law, none of this would have happened, obviously.

So the update is, the cop was fired for not following proper procedures. Which is acceptable under the circumstances, I suppose. But, Texas law allows the use of deadly force under these types of circumstances from dusk to dawn, and especially if you are in fear for your life. Which means it was probably a legal killing, regardless of if he was armed or not, and it would be up to the grand jury to indict the officer.

Update:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...ired/31494391/

Original Story:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...exas/31366475/
 
Oh that doesnt look good. Shooting a guy 3 more times while he was being tasered. I can only assume his fellow officer disagreed with the use of force is why he got fired.
 
He looked "off" in the video...wonder if he was high on K2 and had a bad trip

That bulge in his pants looked huge, probably big enough wallet / cell phone that he could have considered him a "Threat" because the guy was committing a serious crime and probably off his rocker.

In the end, just based on that info, I suspect no criminal charges but he will get his ass sued off professionally (which sort of leads to that because he was fired, he now has NO civil defense left to protect him)
 
He was probably drunk and looking at cars. I bet if some white rich kid was drunk and walking around a car lot looking at cars he wouldnt be killed. You cant steal those cars anyhow with a kit. Did he have any kind of wiring/fob kit on him? If the answer is no then his biggest crime was trespassing.
 
I mean really "Just before 1:20 a.m. Friday, multiple responding officers spotted Taylor inside of Classic Buick GMC in Arlington, a suburb of Dallas. An officer came to a locked glass door with Taylor standing on the other side. According to Johnson, Taylor told the officer he was going to steal a car, then attempted to open the locked door before walking away."


This is all bullshit. ^^^^ Nobody tells a cop they are going to steal a car and run off. Its such bullshit that people would believe such hooha.

dude was acting crazy for sure but not worth losing his life over. He was 19. There is a reason we put 19 year olds on the beach for d-day.
 
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Another case of why we really really really need bodycams.

Wtf was that kid doing tho? I just don't understand how did people can be so fucking stupid. How was that ever going to end well?
 
mizzou said:
That bulge in his pants looked huge, probably big enough wallet / cell phone that he could have considered him a "Threat" because the guy was committing a serious crime and probably off his rocker.
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or something else...after they say.....
 
spacejamz said:
If by 'not complying' means he might have attempted to take the officer's gun, then yes.

However, since details of the altercation haven't been released yet, no one (except the two officers involved) can say what the real reason is.
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Well, I can pretty assuredly say that destroying cars, driving a car through a showroom window, taunting the cops and continuing to cause damage and problems and not complying with the police is a pretty sure sign he wasn't right in the head.

At that point, with a guy who's nuts on your hands, all bets are off.

Death by cop sounds like one good guess for now.
 
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JSt0rm said:
I mean really "Just before 1:20 a.m. Friday, multiple responding officers spotted Taylor inside of Classic Buick GMC in Arlington, a suburb of Dallas. An officer came to a locked glass door with Taylor standing on the other side. According to Johnson, Taylor told the officer he was going to steal a car, then attempted to open the locked door before walking away."


This is all bullshit. ^^^^ Nobody tells a cop they are going to steal a car and run off. Its such bullshit that people would believe such hooha.

dude was acting crazy for sure but not worth losing his life over. He was 19. There is a reason we put 19 year olds on the beach for d-day.
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Ah, here we go. JStorm going into full retard and hatred mode. Can possibly be true because it doesn't fit with his preconceived, behind a keyboard, in his mom's basement notions of what might have happened half way across the country.

You're just a genius at this. Really. A testament to level heading thinking and rational arguments.
 
WackyDan said:
Yet the kid would still be alive if he didn't break into the car dealership first.

Pretty basic math there.
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You son of a bitch! How dare you point out the obvious!

Fact of the matter is, this ended the way it should have ended, the criminal shot. Minus the cop being fired.
 
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