YAAIROT No movie rentals on YouTube with a rooted phone/tablet

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Aristotelian

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By definition, if HC isn't open then Android isn't "open" anymore.

No. Honeycomb is an element in a set representing the total number of Android releases. All elements in that set bar Honeycomb are open. So since HC isn't all there is to Android OS (I just put 2.3 (iirc, from xda-developers) on an HTC-HD2), your claim that [Android isn't open, simpliciter] is false. It's that simple.

They'll release the source code (or not), when they choose to. What's with the entitlement zealots that think one can extrapolate from Honeycomb's not (yet) being open source to claiming that future iterations of Android OS are also not going to be open source?
 

DivideBYZero

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You know it's funny, I almost prefaced my question with something like "I am sincerely interested in the answer" but then thought it looked overly defensive.

I have no axe to grind in any of these debates... I've never quite understood why people are so passionate about these things.

My first Android device arrives tomorrow (hopefully) and I have installed Eclipse and bought a book on Android programming and I'm been playing with the emulator. I'm working on writing an educational app for tablets. I don't need 3.1 to do anything - at least not yet... I'm just past getting "hello world" to compile... but I would download it if I could just to play around, and I think I'll need 3.1 with the emulator to see how the app will work on a tablet... and I am honestly curious what the plan is... and I couldn't find it on Google. Several people said it's coming, so I'm asking in all seriousness and because I'm genuinely interested in the answer "when is 3.1 supposed to be released"?
I don't think you need to have the source released to run the Emulator, do you? Colour me shocked to the core if you do.
 

hanoverphist

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i have a few dvds that i converted for use on my phone, as well as netflix and hbo go. i think thats quite a few movies to choose from, so i doubt id ever use any rental service that charged per flick.
 

ChAoTiCpInOy

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As soon as I root and some nerd figures out how to get 3.0 working on a phone, I will be all over that shit.
Its nothing more than a question of time.

Really? Because Google has been consistent with their feelings about Honeycomb not being ported to a phone and Ice Cream Sandwich being the OS that works for both tablets and phones.
 

YoungGun21

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It has broken phone support because it was being made for tablets, this also keeps it from easily being put on phones.

Shocking.
 

pm

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I don't think you need to have the source released to run the Emulator, do you? Colour me shocked to the core if you do.

No. I've done more reading and I downloaded the Honeycomb SDK and I think I'm set. You are right, I can run Honeycomb through the emulator. Still, I was playing around tonight with Android and I decided to try to build Android from scratch to install on a virtual machine (instead of an emulator) using Qemu, and I got it working with Gingerbread ( http://www.tuxtopia.nl/2011/05/21/guide-building-android-2-3-4-on-ubuntu-11-04-64-bit/ ) and I wished that Honeycomb was out to try because the target for the app that I've been writing.

You guys are right - I don't need HC source, I don't need to worry because they have publicly stated repeatedly that the source will be released with Ice Cream later this year. But I will say that it grates on me like a bad toothache... I can't explain why but it's like when my co-worker doesn't want to give me the source code to his program but wants me to file a bug report and have him fix it... and I'm thinking "why the heck do I need to do that, give the me source and I'll do it, we work for the same company".

I have the same irritation with Google over this because they don't have a good reason that I have heard for what they are doing and lacking the explanation, and the fact that they keep repeating "Android is open" it smacks of hypocrisy... and if there's one thing that I can't handle from anyone it's hypocrisy. It grates on my nerves. People say "dude, you have an iPhone, iOS isn't open, you can't get the source" and I reply "yeah, but Apple doesn't say that they are open, Google does". When I have Andy Rubin tweeting this: http://twitter.com/#!/Arubin/status/27808662429 and then I can't actually follow his instructions for Honeycomb... yeah, I find it smacks of hypocrisy.

I bought an Android device - my Asus Transformer arrives tomorrow from Best Buy. I'm probably selling my iPad. I am working my way through 1175 pages worth of "Pro Android 3 Programming". I am not bashing on Google because I care about the iOS vs. Android vs. whatever fight... I just find the whole hypocrisy annoying - and yes, I built Gingerbread from scratch tonight on Ubuntu 11.04. Which is pretty cool.
 
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Pliablemoose

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And in fairness this is only used to score points in discussions such as these. I would wager than no one on this forum will download the HC source even when it is released, meaning the point regarding its availability is completely null and void.

The source code being available allows some very good custom roms.