YAAIROT No movie rentals on YouTube with a rooted phone/tablet

[YoungGun21]

Can anybody direct me to a download of the iOS source code?

 

[sciwizam]

Is there anything that's stopping a rooted phone when you type in youtube.com in the browser and watch the movie in the browser via flash?

 

[Pliablemoose]

LOL @ the fandroids...

 

[tatteredpotato]

LOL @ the fandroids...

Oh quit yer trolling.

 

[MagickMan]

How can Android be open and closed at the same time? It can't.

No, it can't, but it doesn't stop the fandroids from crying. IMO, they're worse than the fapples.

 

[tonygeor]

Android is open because its open source...move along

 

[zerocool84]

LOL @ the fandroids...

No, it can't, but it doesn't stop the fandroids from crying. IMO, they're worse than the fapples.

Why do you guys always turn it to that when it isn't? It's about copy protection.

 

[zoiks]

LOL @ the fandroids...

LOL @ the iPhoney OP who got his ass handed to him in this thread.

 

[senseamp]

Youtube is not Android.

 

[Pliablemoose]

LOL @ the iPhoney OP who got his ass handed to him in this thread.

Sigh...

Let's see, who posting in this thread has had and rooted more Android phones than me? (G1, Nexus One, Droid gen1 (2), Incredible, Intercept (3) HD2 hacked to Android, EVO, ThunderBolt and 3 nook colors...) I must be the biggest Apple fan on the forums...

 

[Aristotelian]

And the rumors I'm hearing is that Android will be more and more locked down.

Your rumours do nothing to address the argument presented in the post below:

Android is open, every single version up to now, except for Honeycomb, has had it's source code released.

(snip). coupled with:

Yes, the single version Honeycomb is closed. But unless you're arguing that a single version that google admitted wasn't prime time that remains closed, somehow now makes Android as a whole closed, I really can't say anything to counter the dumb.

You are acting as if one singular non-open sourced version of Android entails that all versions of Android are closed - a faulty inference (obviously) yet you fail to address that and instead respond with posts like this:

Sigh...

Let's see, who posting in this thread has had and rooted more Android phones than me? (G1, Nexus One, Droid gen1 (2), Incredible, Intercept (3) HD2 hacked to Android, EVO, ThunderBolt and 3 nook colors...) I must be the biggest Apple fan on the forums...

Nobody cares what phones you have owned (an 'argument from authority').

Your claim is that 'Android OS is closed', when most versions clearly aren't. It's a wonder that you can't see this logic, and instead dub anyone who presents this logic to you as some sort of Android fanboy. To appreciate reasoning does not entail that you are a fanboy (of anything but reasoning itself).

 

[DivideBYZero]

Summary of thread:

"Applebies"
"fandroids"
"fapples"
"iPhoney"

 

[Pliablemoose]

Ok you guys win, I'm really a shill, Apple pays me to post negative stuff about Android, the whole deal with Facebook sort of fell apart...

 

[poofyhairguy]

In the end if I am Google and I have to pick between:

Leaving Honeycomb closed, and risk being accused of closing Android

Or

Opening the HC source, have it get picked over, and have people bash them for selling what is maybe the worst hack job of an OS ever seen on $500 devices

Then I would have also kept the source closed. It was lose lose no matter what, but at least with the first choice you don't risk losing sales due to mainstream media catching onto how bad early adopters are getting screwed with HC tablets. Mainstream media rarely cares about open source issues.

The real problem is that Google didn't have a tablet plan till AFTER the iPad 1 was released. Everything else is a side effect of that.

 

[Pliablemoose]

The real problem is that Google didn't have a tablet plan till AFTER the iPad 1 was released. Everything else is a side effect of that.

I think the whole industry was expecting a Newton size flop with the iPad till the massive sales started racking up.

 

[Deeko]

Calm down, people.

Android is open source - except for Honeycomb, I really don't think its a huge deal that its not, especially since 3.1 will be.

However, when people talk about what is "open", come on kiddies, there's more to it than Rubin's tweet lets on. Open is similar to open source, but they aren't exactly the same thing, so lets cut the crap and stop acting like they are.

Android, as an ecosystem, is more open* than some other systems, but it is hardly completely, 100% open*. This has been the case since day 1, otherwise we never would have needed to do special tricks to get root access, and phones had locked boot loaders pretty early on, and as the platform expands, more controls, and less openness* are par for the course.

Now...while the nerd community takes the word "closed" or any perceived lack of openness* as a horrendous insult, believe it or not....it really isn't. Sometimes, being closed is good or necessary, such as this case.

So, in summary....
To people that want to insult Google for this: Shut up, its not a big deal.
To Google superfans that deeply resent these accusations: Shut up, they're right, but its still not a big deal.

*see the above clarification about open vs open-source

 

[pm]

Android 3.1 was released on the Xoom several weeks ago. When is the expected release for the source code?

 

[DivideBYZero]

Android 3.1 was released on the Xoom several weeks ago. When is the expected release for the source code?

And in fairness this is only used to score points in discussions such as these. I would wager than no one on this forum will download the HC source even when it is released, meaning the point regarding its availability is completely null and void.

 

[MagickMan]

By definition, if HC isn't open then Android isn't "open" anymore. Trust me, I want HC to come out, I want it working and wonderful on my NC, but it isn't here. They claim with 3.1 they'll release the source, but there are doubts that they'll release it even then. 3.1 is out, where is it?

Personally, I'm critical of all tech companies, and that includes Google and Apple. I don't think either platform is perfect, so I don't get my feelings hurt when someone points out shortcomings with either of them.

 

[pm]

And in fairness this is only used to score points in discussions such as these. I would wager than no one on this forum will download the HC source even when it is released, meaning the point regarding its availability is completely null and void.

You know it's funny, I almost prefaced my question with something like "I am sincerely interested in the answer" but then thought it looked overly defensive.

I have no axe to grind in any of these debates... I've never quite understood why people are so passionate about these things.

My first Android device arrives tomorrow (hopefully) and I have installed Eclipse and bought a book on Android programming and I'm been playing with the emulator. I'm working on writing an educational app for tablets. I don't need 3.1 to do anything - at least not yet... I'm just past getting "hello world" to compile... but I would download it if I could just to play around, and I think I'll need 3.1 with the emulator to see how the app will work on a tablet... and I am honestly curious what the plan is... and I couldn't find it on Google. Several people said it's coming, so I'm asking in all seriousness and because I'm genuinely interested in the answer "when is 3.1 supposed to be released"?

 

[poofyhairguy]

And in fairness this is only used to score points in discussions such as these. I would wager than no one on this forum will download the HC source even when it is released, meaning the point regarding its availability is completely null and void.

A released Honeycomb source would mean that every Android tablet running a phone version of the OS (original tab, Nook Color, Gtab) could get a community created Honeycomb upgrade.

 

[s44]

Android is open source - except for Honeycomb, I really don't think its a huge deal that its not, especially since 3.1 will be.

Ice Cream Sandwich (the great merger version) will be, but we've already seen that 3.1 isn't ICS.

 

[Deeko]

Ice Cream Sandwich (the great merger version) will be, but we've already seen that 3.1 isn't ICS.

Whatever version it is, the point was that they'll get back to it.

I don't care if HC is open sourced, and I don't know why anyone else does, either.

 

[zerocool84]

In the end if I am Google and I have to pick between:

Leaving Honeycomb closed, and risk being accused of closing Android

Or

Opening the HC source, have it get picked over, and have people bash them for selling what is maybe the worst hack job of an OS ever seen on $500 devices

Then I would have also kept the source closed. It was lose lose no matter what, but at least with the first choice you don't risk losing sales due to mainstream media catching onto how bad early adopters are getting screwed with HC tablets. Mainstream media rarely cares about open source issues.

The real problem is that Google didn't have a tablet plan till AFTER the iPad 1 was released. Everything else is a side effect of that.

Huh? How is Honeycomb a hackjob? Most reviewers prefer Honeycomb to other tablet OS`s. Sure it was buggy on the Xoom but all other HC tablets aren't.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Huh? How is Honeycomb a hackjob? Most reviewers prefer Honeycomb to other tablet OS`s. Sure it was buggy on the Xoom but all other HC tablets aren't.

1. HC has broken phone support (main hack).

2. Despite having a very anticipated GPU accelerated GUI, the HC laucher is laggy. Put Launcher Pro on a Xoom/Transformer and it gets much faster.

3. HC has FCs with a few programs. Examination of the FCs show that part of the problem is incompatibility with HC's forced status bar. In comparison the forced status bar on CM7 has less incompatibilities (aka if the community can do it better than you with an old version, the improvements you did are hackish).

4. Internal partitions and SD card mounting had to be fixed by the individual tablet companies, as it was broken in default HC from Google.