XP still won't die . . . .

[ninaholic37]

then it needs to be changed cause it doesn't run fine.

It's getting more and more limited by the day on what is compatible with it and it's security is frighteningly bad.

To call it Swiss cheese isn't even enough, screen doors hold out water better than XP holds up in security.

Says you. Runs fine for me. Might want to explain WHY it doesn't run fine for you, as your post is kinda pointless written the way it is (no specifics).

 

[escrow4]

Says you. Runs fine for me. Might want to explain WHY it doesn't run fine for you, as your post is kinda pointless written the way it is (no specifics).

Runs fine until you pick up all those rootkits . . . . . . XP is a joke in 2015. Compared to 8.1 it really is a joke security wise.

 

[zir_blazer]

anyone ever run xp 64 bit ? It supports 16 gigs of ram . There is a fellow that has made a sp4 for xp . His site show the 64 bit iso .

Much higher than that. I have 24 GB on it: http://i.imgur.com/hBrfbQK.png

I should be in the minority, since my WXP x64 works as intended.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Runs fine until you pick up all those rootkits . . . . . . XP is a joke in 2015. Compared to 8.1 it really is a joke security wise.

XP has always been a joke security wise. No difference weather we're writing 2015 or 2001...

Much higher than that. I have 24 GB on it: http://i.imgur.com/hBrfbQK.png

I should be in the minority, since my WXP x64 works as intended.

I -think- the limit is 128GB actually. Its been a long time since I've fiddled with it though.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I like how people always talk about security. Is Vista, 7, 8 and 10 100% secure? No.

They're all full of security holes. Does not matter how new your OS is.

That said, any hardware running XP is probably at a point where it may be worth upgrading anyway, so may as well upgrade the hardware and put the latest OS too, then migrate stuff over. Mind you, having worked in hospitals where lot of stuff is on NT4, often that's just not possible because organizations today continue to choose proprietary software instead of open source or custom built in house. When that proprietary software company goes tits up there are no upgrade paths and no support and you're stuck on whatever was the latest OS that software supported, and it's now running every dialysis machine or oxygen control system in the building and can't be touched.

Really the only reason to keep XP around now days is because of such proprietary stuff where it simply can't be touched. Those are not really fun situations but they are a reality. Most ATMs run on XP or even 2000. Thankfully these type of proprietary systems are normally not on the public internet so the attack risk is lower.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Says you. Runs fine for me. Might want to explain WHY it doesn't run fine for you, as your post is kinda pointless written the way it is (no specifics).

Win XP has atrocious security, even with SP3. I did a class a couple of years ago for IT Security and within 10 minutes of teaching most of us could break into XP with ease using basic software. There's so many exploits it's beyond bad. MS really only started to take desktop level security seriously with Vista.

 

[ninaholic37]

Win XP has atrocious security, even with SP3. I did a class a couple of years ago for IT Security and within 10 minutes of teaching most of us could break into XP with ease using basic software. There's so many exploits it's beyond bad. MS really only started to take desktop level security seriously with Vista.

How? Which basic software? Were you using a Limited Account or Admin? From what I can tell, the Limited Account in XP seems even more restrictive than the ones in NT 6.x. I uninstall MS junk and choose light/open software instead, but only for things that don't already work for me in Linux (which I use for internet).

edit: I guess you're talking about breaking into an XP machine when you already have access to the hard drive? Good luck trying to access my XP partition.

 

[nemesismk2]

I just don't get all this windows xp has bad security? i use windows xp sp3 all the time and have owned windows xp since it was released. i have never had a virus or trojan with windows xp (i have 6 copies all now with sp3). i uninstalled all microsoft products and instead use open software instead. i don't visit any porn sites and dont use facebook which is a major source of infection. i got the company i work for to uninstall microsoft office and use open software instead so not end less patches for office.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

edit: I guess you're talking about breaking into an XP machine when you already have access to the hard drive? Good luck trying to access my XP partition.

If you have physical access to an XP system, its simply game over...

 

[nemesismk2]

If you have physical access to an XP system, its simply game over...

if someone has access to your pc at home then it's game over with ANY version of Windows. You should make your house or work place secure.

 

[ultimatebob]

If they're using the Embedded or POSReady versions of XP, they still have a few more years of update support.

I wonder if anyone has tried backporting the security patches for those versions to Windows XP Pro. Hmm...

 

[Red Squirrel]

if someone has access to your pc at home then it's game over with ANY version of Windows. You should make your house or work place secure.

This.

Even Linux. Physical access means the premisses have already been compromised and at this point you have a bigger problem on your hands than worrying about a few popups.

 

[Morbus]

XP has always been a joke security wise. No difference weather we're writing 2015 or 2001...

You don't know how electronic security works...

 

[Insert_Nickname]

You don't know how electronic security works...

I remember a simple test done with a pre-SP2 XP PC some time 2005'ish. It was connected directly (i.e. no firewall etc.) to the internet, without any additional security software installed. It was just left connected. Guess what. Within literally 2 minutes, that PC was so full of assorted viruses, malware, spyware and so on, as to be unusable.

So I still maintain XP is a joke security wise.

 

[Morbus]

What I'm saying is that a specific piece of software, left unchanged and unpatched, will get LESS secure as time goes by.

There is no argument for "it was always unsecure". Security is relative, and in the electronic world, it's relative to the amount of people who know how to exploit the security holes in the software. Back in 2001, without any service pack or patches, Windows XP was MORE SECURE than it is now, with the SP3 and all the patches.

And as a matter of fact, it was quite an improvement of its predecessors, even if it was always a joke, to our eyes of today.

 

[Maximilian]

I use XP on all my comps. Heres my desktop:

Come at me.

 

[ninaholic37]

I got nothing to come at you with

 

[escrow4]

I use XP on all my comps. Heres my desktop:

Come at me.

That is just as horrific as using Adobe Reader 7.0. And WinPatrol is still being made? Eh. All you are missing are some VHS's in the background.

 

[postmortemIA]

That is just as horrific as using Adobe Reader 7.0. And WinPatrol is still being made? Eh. All you are missing are some VHS's in the background.

screenshot looks like 10 yrs old

 

[Insert_Nickname]

What I'm saying is that a specific piece of software, left unchanged and unpatched, will get LESS secure as time goes by.

There is no argument for "it was always unsecure". Security is relative, and in the electronic world, it's relative to the amount of people who know how to exploit the security holes in the software. Back in 2001, without any service pack or patches, Windows XP was MORE SECURE than it is now, with the SP3 and all the patches.

And as a matter of fact, it was quite an improvement of its predecessors, even if it was always a joke, to our eyes of today.

I see. We must have misunderstood each other...

 

[FrankRamiro]

I use XP on all my comps. Heres my desktop:

Come at me.

I don't think any OPS will boot and work best with that many apps

 

[ArisVer]

Runs fine until you pick up all those rootkits . . . . . . XP is a joke in 2015. Compared to 8.1 it really is a joke security wise.

If it is such a big risk, why would they keep supporting it with the extended security updates?

 

[Ichinisan]

I don't think any OPS will boot and work best with that many apps

They're nearly all documents. Those would have no significant impact on system performance.

 

[Scarpozzi]

I totally get where people are coming from with wanting to upgrade from the security side. Unfortunately the functional side often wins these debates because XP and IE6 is STILL better than Windows 8 and IE Compatibility mode.

Microsoft is stuck trying to close security holes in IE and their only solution is new versions that break functionality. I'm certainly hoping the next 10 years of web code standards starts making up for the last 10 years. Security exploits have ruined usability.

 

[Eno Safirey]

I still remember the release party for XP way back in 2001. It was a month after 9-11 and the country was in a dazed mood. The Microsoft people were all very upbeat and positive that they had something wonderful that they were releasing. They were right.