XM Radio Can't Stop the Bleeding

[QED]

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

But I'm convinced the vast majority of those 2.7 million new subscribers weren't pursuaded one way or the other by Stern's signing.

That a majority of those subscribers joined Sirius around the time that Stern made the jump from terrestrial radio to satellite is a mere coincidence then?

WTF does "around the time Stern made the jump" mean????

Sirius announced the acquisition of Stern in October of 2004. Stern didn't go on the air until January 2006.

That means there were 15 months between the announcement and Stern actually signing of OTA airwaves. In light of that, the claim that the majority of new subscribers during this time frame were Howard Stern junkies is patently absurd. Why would a Howard Stern junky sign up for Sirius satellite months ahead of time if Howard Stern was the only reason for them to subscribe in the first place??

They gained 2 million subscribers in 15 months-- which as I said earlier is the same growth that XM had a couple years ago.

I would think you would really only start to see the Howard Stern effect by looking at the number of new subs in first quarter of 2006, and the last month or two of 2005-- not the entire freaking 15 month period preceeding all of this.

I ordered Sirius just to get Stern...I know of or convinced at least 5 other people to do the same.

That may well be true... but 6 subscribers <<<< 2 million <<<<<<< 10 million.

i.e. you've proved nothing

 

[chibchakan]

Originally posted by: MathMan
WTF does "around the time Stern made the jump" mean????

Sirius announced the acquisition of Stern in October of 2004. Stern didn't go on the air until January 2006.


i.e. you've proved I know nothing

You do know that Howard had programming on one of his channels (Howard 100) before he left terrestrial radio?


Howard Stern > O&A

 

[Pepsi90919]

sybian FTW

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: V00DOO

Originally posted by: DotheDamnTHing
am/fm ftw

I haven't turn on my am/fm ever since I sub to Sirius.

judge from english, no open book either.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: MathMan

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
[Well lets see, before Stern left the air he had over 20 million listeners so is it that hard to understand that 10% would follow him over to Sirius? Well I guess for an idiot like you it would be. Trust me, before it's all said and done Stern will be responsible for at least 10 million subscribers.

Only an idiot would lie or exagerate to try to prove a point in vain.

For me to lie or exagerate I would have to know the exact numbers which I admit I didn't. So I was off a lot, that only makes Stern joining Sirius which resulted in more than 2 million people signing up more impressive.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: MathMan

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
[Well lets see, before Stern left the air he had over 20 million listeners so is it that hard to understand that 10% would follow him over to Sirius? Well I guess for an idiot like you it would be. Trust me, before it's all said and done Stern will be responsible for at least 10 million subscribers.

Only an idiot would lie or exagerate to try to prove a point in vain.

For me to lie or exagerate I would have to know the exact numbers which I admit I didn't. So I was off a lot, that only makes Stern joining Sirius which resulted in more than 2 million people signing up more impressive.

So all 2 million subscribers joined up for Stern? By that math, didn't 3 million sign up to XM just for O&A?

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: BDawg
Sirius announces tomorrow. They'll lose even more than XM.

At least XM plans to be profitable one day.

And I was right. Sirius lost $40M more than XM did, even with the biggest subscriber gain in their history.

 

[BDawg]

And here's a breakdown of the 2 companies:

Graphic

In their biggest quarter ever, with the full Stern effect, Sirius lost $40M more and only outgained XM by 400k subscriptions... all the while spending 25% more per subscriber.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: MathMan

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
[Well lets see, before Stern left the air he had over 20 million listeners so is it that hard to understand that 10% would follow him over to Sirius? Well I guess for an idiot like you it would be. Trust me, before it's all said and done Stern will be responsible for at least 10 million subscribers.

Only an idiot would lie or exagerate to try to prove a point in vain.

For me to lie or exagerate I would have to know the exact numbers which I admit I didn't. So I was off a lot, that only makes Stern joining Sirius which resulted in more than 2 million people signing up more impressive.

So all 2 million subscribers joined up for Stern? By that math, didn't 3 million sign up to XM just for O&A?

That could be true if retarded assholes were capable of signing up for XM

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: MathMan

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
[Well lets see, before Stern left the air he had over 20 million listeners so is it that hard to understand that 10% would follow him over to Sirius? Well I guess for an idiot like you it would be. Trust me, before it's all said and done Stern will be responsible for at least 10 million subscribers.

Only an idiot would lie or exagerate to try to prove a point in vain.

For me to lie or exagerate I would have to know the exact numbers which I admit I didn't. So I was off a lot, that only makes Stern joining Sirius which resulted in more than 2 million people signing up more impressive.

So all 2 million subscribers joined up for Stern? By that math, didn't 3 million sign up to XM just for O&A?

That could be true if retarded assholes were capable of signing up for XM

Like they do with Sirius.

 

[aidanjm]

THEIR REVENUE DOUBLED IN THAT PERIOD, ACCORDING TO YOUR ARTICLE. THEIR REVENUE IS ALMOST APPROACHING THEIR LOSS FOR THE PERIOD. oops about the all caps.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
Sirius Satellite Radio (SIRI)
SIRI quote Real-time quotes
5.28 down -0.37 -6.55%

XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc. (XMSR)
XMSR quote Real-time quotes
21.71 down -2.27 -9.47%

BUY STOCK NOW
Just bought 250 shares of Sirius

For your sake I hope you're right in the short term, but Sirius has over 5x the amount of shares outstanding (1.33billion vs. 220mil), so they are in one perspective even MORE expensive than xmsr. Either will be very lucky to succeed in the long run imo.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: BDawg
And here's a breakdown of the 2 companies:

Graphic

In their biggest quarter ever, with the full Stern effect, Sirius lost $40M more and only outgained XM by 400k subscriptions... all the while spending 25% more per subscriber.

harry potter fan? lol

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: MathMan

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
[Well lets see, before Stern left the air he had over 20 million listeners so is it that hard to understand that 10% would follow him over to Sirius? Well I guess for an idiot like you it would be. Trust me, before it's all said and done Stern will be responsible for at least 10 million subscribers.

Only an idiot would lie or exagerate to try to prove a point in vain.

For me to lie or exagerate I would have to know the exact numbers which I admit I didn't. So I was off a lot, that only makes Stern joining Sirius which resulted in more than 2 million people signing up more impressive.

So all 2 million subscribers joined up for Stern? By that math, didn't 3 million sign up to XM just for O&A?

That could be true if retarded assholes were capable of signing up for XM

Like they do with Sirius.

LOL it's still better than Terrestrial Radio

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: MathMan

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
[Well lets see, before Stern left the air he had over 20 million listeners so is it that hard to understand that 10% would follow him over to Sirius? Well I guess for an idiot like you it would be. Trust me, before it's all said and done Stern will be responsible for at least 10 million subscribers.

Only an idiot would lie or exagerate to try to prove a point in vain.

For me to lie or exagerate I would have to know the exact numbers which I admit I didn't. So I was off a lot, that only makes Stern joining Sirius which resulted in more than 2 million people signing up more impressive.

So all 2 million subscribers joined up for Stern? By that math, didn't 3 million sign up to XM just for O&A?

That could be true if retarded assholes were capable of signing up for XM

Like they do with Sirius.

LOL it's still better than Terrestrial Radio

Hell, either one beats terrestrial by a mile.

 

[JackBurton]

I'd like to say that Sterm is now infinitely better than when he was on sh!tting ass terrestrial radio. Great show! I'll be signing up for a few more years.

 

[Goosemaster]

ocuh!

infrastructure and subscriber base development sure left a sour taste in both companies' mouths....

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: fisher
if i could get jim rome on xm i'd probably subscribe. i do know a few people who left sirius for xm when fox news switched (or joined xm? not sure which happened, i just know they are xm subs because of fox news).

Sirius just got FOX back. I got an email today from them.

"Thank you for recently contacting us to express your point-of-view regarding FOX News. At that time, we were still in discussions with FOX and working diligently to come to an agreement to be able to continue to offer FOX News.

We are pleased to tell you that we have successfully secured FOX News as part of our lineup. On March 14th, you will see it on Channel 131 and additionally you will also find FOX News Talk on Channel 145."

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
Sirius Satellite Radio (SIRI)
SIRI quote Real-time quotes
5.28 down -0.37 -6.55%

XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc. (XMSR)
XMSR quote Real-time quotes
21.71 down -2.27 -9.47%

BUY STOCK NOW
Just bought 250 shares of Sirius

2000 here. Had that since it was 1.32

 

[IGBT]

..a lot of people tried it for awhile but got rid of it after the novelty wore off.

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: DotheDamnTHing
cd/mp3 player ftw

fixed

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: Condor

Sirius just got FOX back. I got an email today from them.

See, I always thought not having Fox News was a buying point *for* Sirius.

 

[cavemanmoron]

Originally posted by: DotheDamnTHing
am/fm ftw

agree

 

[aircooled]

I'm never going back to over the air radio. I've had XM since it started and with my travel schedule, there is no way I'll back to loosing channels from town to town...