X1900XT or eVGA 7900GT KO

[cmdrdredd]

I did read Anand's roundup, but I want opinions here on this. I want to upgrade from a 7800GT to something faster at higher AA and AF settings in newer games like Quake4 and FEAR.

So I'm asking you all here... Which would YOU buy? Please take into account any driver issues, conflicts, games that don't render properly etc.

edit: I'm upgrading from a 7800GT OC from BFG which I am installing in another system.

 

[Ika]

Honestly, I wouldn't buy anything, but since you're asking for recommendations...

X1900XT.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Well, See I never planned to buy anything to be very honest. However, I have someone that needs a video card for their system and will pay for it cash. So, I could sell it and make up the difference on the new card...feel me?

 

[apoppin]

Anand was pretty specific in his roundup

The X1900 XT leads the high end of the midrange market at this point in time, but if your spending limit is set hard at $300 an overclocked 7900 GT that comes in with 550+ core clock speed can be a very good option. With the price difference between the stock 7900 GT and overclocked 7900 GT being just about $15, there is no reason to settle for the significantly slower performer.

of course the x1950xt is out shortly and prices may change further . . . performance is up another notch.

 

[Ika]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Well, See I never planned to buy anything to be very honest. However, I have someone that needs a video card for their system and will pay for it cash. So, I could sell it and make up the difference on the new card...feel me?

I see. That makes more sense.

X1900XT seems to be the best card for the price... at STOCK. If you ***NAIVE ALERT*** don't mind risking the problems of the 7900GT and aren't queasy about voltmodding and overclocking, the 7900GT will be a much better performer. I'm not sure if they fixed the 7900GT's problems, though, hence the naive alert.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: apoppin
Anand was pretty specific in his roundup

The X1900 XT leads the high end of the midrange market at this point in time, but if your spending limit is set hard at $300 an overclocked 7900 GT that comes in with 550+ core clock speed can be a very good option. With the price difference between the stock 7900 GT and overclocked 7900 GT being just about $15, there is no reason to settle for the significantly slower performer.

of course the x1950xt is out shortly and prices may change further . . . performance is up another notch.

That would be slightly out of reach at this time. I never buy the top end of the videocards anyway...in fact the only piece in my system that can be considered top of the line (for some) is the motherboard which I got specifically for overclocking.


One question I do have about the x1900xt is power consumption. Is there anything specific that makes it more picky than the 7900? I remember reading about that, but never saw a definate answer as to whether you need a huge PSU or not.

 

[akshayt]

7900GT is a small boost at stock and sometimes not a boost at all.

7900GT is not meant to be played with AA anyway.

The choice is obvious, 1900XT, it is like comparing a Geforce 6800 moderately overclocked to 6800GS or even 6800Ultra

 

[Kromis]

Originally posted by: akshayt
7900GT is a small boost at stock and sometimes not a boost at all.

7900GT is not meant to be played with AA anyway.

The choice is obvious, 1900XT, it is like comparing a Geforce 6800 moderately overclocked to 6800GS or even 6800Ultra

Lol, you and your X1900XT craze.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: apoppin
Anand was pretty specific in his roundup

The X1900 XT leads the high end of the midrange market at this point in time, but if your spending limit is set hard at $300 an overclocked 7900 GT that comes in with 550+ core clock speed can be a very good option. With the price difference between the stock 7900 GT and overclocked 7900 GT being just about $15, there is no reason to settle for the significantly slower performer.

of course the x1950xt is out shortly and prices may change further . . . performance is up another notch.

The x1900 xt's can be overclocked as well...and you have a good shot at the BJ11 xtx ram.

 

[akshayt]

1900XTX>1900XT>7900GTX OC>7900GTX>1800XT 512mb>7900GT 512

all of them are high end, if 1900XT is mid range then so is 7900GTX OC, which is not true
also, mostly xtx is just sub 10% faster than 1900XT, that is not even noticeably mostly

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: Aflac

X1900XT seems to be the best card for the price... at STOCK. If you ***NAIVE ALERT*** don't mind risking the problems of the 7900GT and aren't queasy about voltmodding and overclocking, the 7900GT will be a much better performer. I'm not sure if they fixed the 7900GT's problems, though, hence the naive alert.

Hmm. I'd imagine most people who voltmod and oc their 7900GTs stick with 1.4V to the core and the +.01V to the vmem. In most cases this yields ~625-675 on the core and 825-875 on the memory (seems like the average from what I've read but I may be wrong here). This is only slightly above a 7900GTX which is on par with an X1900XT. If you consider that the X1900XT can be overclocked, I don't see how the 7900GT will be a much better performer.

OP- IMO it's worth the extra $50 to get the X1900XT. You'll have to decide if it is or not. In Quake 4 the cards will be pretty even and in FEAR the X1900XT will come out ahead.

 

[akshayt]

oblivion min fps wise 1900XTX beats anything

 

[TheRyuu]

Yea, I'd get the X1900XT.

As much as I like my 7900GT's, the X1900XT is clearly a better choice.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: akshayt
7900GT is a small boost at stock and sometimes not a boost at all.

7900GT is not meant to be played with AA anyway.

The choice is obvious, 1900XT, it is like comparing a Geforce 6800 moderately overclocked to 6800GS or even 6800Ultra

Not ment to be played with AA then why the hell did they enable it? I'm just gonna ignore everything you post as you clearly have no clue, but I did get good info from others.

Ordered a x1900xt from ZZF just a bit ago. Upgraded from the free ground shipping to the 2day for $1.99 so I'll have it like wednesday or so.

Honestly I was thinking of going to SLi, but I'd need a different PSU to make it stable. That being said I have no idea why I got an SLI board if I was not using it. I suppose because when I got it at a local computer show it was really cheap and is a good overclocking board. (DFI Lanparty UT SLI-D)

 

[Mattd46612]

MSI X1900XT at newegg 279 after rebate. Mine overclocks to 700/800 no prob on stock cooling, it gets a lil loud but i dont care. best purchase ive ever made. ATI is a lil more of a pain with overclocking but worth it, I dont think ill go back to nvidia.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Mattd46612
MSI X1900XT at newegg 279 after rebate. Mine overclocks to 700/800 no prob on stock cooling, it gets a lil loud but i dont care. best purchase ive ever made. ATI is a lil more of a pain with overclocking but worth it, I dont think ill go back to nvidia.

More expensive before rebates. I don't like waiting 8 weeks to find out they "lost" my UPC code or something like that.

 

[akshayt]

1)I prefer HDR which 7900GT can't offer with AA, so you need to ditch AA.
2)In all upcoming games and even in games like GRAW,Oblivion,FEAR etc a 7900GT can only play without AA if you want maximum in game settings, forgetting soft shadows etc.

 

[Polish3d]

Originally posted by: Aflac

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Well, See I never planned to buy anything to be very honest. However, I have someone that needs a video card for their system and will pay for it cash. So, I could sell it and make up the difference on the new card...feel me?

I see. That makes more sense.

X1900XT seems to be the best card for the price... at STOCK. If you ***NAIVE ALERT*** don't mind risking the problems of the 7900GT and aren't queasy about voltmodding and overclocking, the 7900GT will be a much better performer. I'm not sure if they fixed the 7t900GT's problems, though, hence the naive alert.

No it won't, what are you talking about? Even if he gets the 7900gt to GTX speeds, it's still slower than an x1900xt. Not to mention it has half the memory and he can overclock the x1900xt too.


Performance wise the x1900xt is FASTER than a 7900GTX, particulalry with image quality turned up. Your advice is flat wrong

 

[LOUISSSSS]

this comparison has been reviewed over and over again, the x1900xt is always the winner. it will beat out the 7900gt in most if not all games at resolutions greater than 1280x1024 and with higher quality settings on (unless u like your games looking like crap)

 

[morgash]

akshayt where the hell do you get your numbers? generalizing that the 7900gt CANNOT do any of that is ridiculous. If he has a 30" apple cinema display and runs it at it's native res then no, a 7900gt won't be able to keep up. If, however, he runs at say 1280x960-1680x1050 then the 7900gt is great, especially voltmodded. I ran my 7900gt (vmodded to 650/1950) at 1440x900 4xaa everything else full on oblivion and it averaged 40fps. FEAR never dropped below 45 fps with all settings on high cept soft shadow. And GRAW is a joke, Prey looks ten times better than GRAW. At least do some damn research and stop telling everyone to get a x1900xt. it all depends on budget and how you play.

With all that said however, i would recommend the x1900xt IF you can afford. I got mine a couple weeks ago and I love it. I can max out any game at my monitors res (1440x900) and everything runs smooth as silk.

Morgash

 

[TheRyuu]

Originally posted by: akshayt
7900GT is a small boost at stock and sometimes not a boost at all.

7900GT is not meant to be played with AA anyway.

The choice is obvious, 1900XT, it is like comparing a Geforce 6800 moderately overclocked to 6800GS or even 6800Ultra

AA seems to work fine with me

A single 7900GT even without any vmodding can pretty much get to 550/1700 on stock volts. Thats plenty of speed for AA/AF in any modern game. Even Oblivion.

 

[cmdrdredd]

well, I was looking for info on driver problems ppl noted, games that done run correctly on one card vs another if this problem exists at all. Seems there isn't any issues with software.

 

[hans007]

i'd rather have a 7900gt than a x1900xt.

granted i barely game ever. but i'd rather get the nvidia card... better linux support, and probably uses less than 40% of the power the x1900xt makes.

plus its cheaper by about $70

 

[akshayt]

1)nVidia doesn't support both HDR and AA together in its current crop of cards, therefore winner is 1900XT.
2)At stock 1900XT is faster, I would even choose it over a 7900GTX, what to talk of 7900GT.
3)Overclocked, 1900XT should overall be better, even a 1900XT can be overclocked
4)GEforce 7900GT won't be able to play games like GRAW, Oblivion, UT07, Crysis etc with AA at decent resolutions and max settings.

 

[Nightmare225]

Originally posted by: akshayt
4)GEforce 7900GT won't be able to play games like GRAW, Oblivion, UT07, Crysis etc with AA at decent resolutions and max settings.

Link? And what do you consider to be decent resolutions? You do know that the majority of gamers run on 1280x1024, right?