I don't know. I would have loved to see Wolverine (at least, Hugh Jackman) make a brief cameo in Captain America, when he was fighting in World War 2. Just have him sitting around the base or something. Nothing major.
I don't know. I would have loved to see Wolverine (at least, Hugh Jackman) make a brief cameo in Captain America, when he was fighting in World War 2. Just have him sitting around the base or something. Nothing major.
AznAnarchy99
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All of Magneto's henchmen from First Class. The red devil Nightcrawler guy and Angel (the stripper with wings) and probably one or two more; can't remember them all right now as she flipped through them pretty quickly. I saw those two for sure.
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waggy
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yeah the wings were in a case when he got his helmet back. where was azreal (the nightcrawler type guy..who btw is nightcrawlers dad)?
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Azreal's picture was in the autopsy file that Mystique was looking at in Trask's secret office compartment, same with Angel and a couple of others.
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JEDI
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hm.. blink is signed on for 5 xmen movies. Futures Past is just the first one.
wonder why blink is so prominent in the movies? she's a minor char in the comics.
and the Blu-ray extended directors cut will feature all the scenes of rogue that were cut in the movie, among other things
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ahh.. I'm mixing up Blink with Scanner (member of the Acolytes, who are followers of Magneto)
wonder why blink is so prominent in the movies? she's a minor char in the comics.
and the Blu-ray extended directors cut will feature all the scenes of rogue that were cut in the movie, among other things
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ahh.. I'm mixing up Blink with Scanner (member of the Acolytes, who are followers of Magneto)
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Skel
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Where did you get this rumor? Don't confuse the names as the same thing, Marvel Movie Studios wants to make movies, Marvel Comics wants to publish books.. As Marvel comics still concerns itself with making money from comics stopping publishing when your books movie comes out would be a stupid thing to do. I highly doubt Marvel is going to shelf it's first family because a different studio owns the rights.. man, some rumors are just so stupid that it's hard to believe normally really intelligent people believe it.
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Some thoughts:
1. Peter Dinklage (Trask) did a great job.
2. I did not like that Stryker turned out to be Mystique at the end. It would have been more awesome if it had been Stryker because then you would have known that Wolverine would have been bound to the same fate of being tortured, getting metal claws, losing his memory, etc. i.e. becoming the Wolverine that we know & love.
3. I liked that they brought Jean Gray back, because now they can do the whole Phoenix/space storyline if they want to, which opens the door to a lot more movies.
4. Quicksilver was amazing. I really enjoyed his parts. I felt they should have used him more, and should be have put in a token part about "hey, I'd like to get out of the basement, can I join your school?" I would love to see him in his own movie, same as Hawkeye. Really unexpected part & he did a phenomenal job. I also liked the bit about "my mom knew a guy who could do that with metal" hehehe...
5. It took me awhile to realize when Professor X didn't let the government guys take Magneto & kill him. After some discussion, I realized that Professor X still didn't realize just how much of a snake Magneto really is. His first talking encounter with him on the airplane makes them buddies again when he reveals that he was trying to curve the bullet away from JFK so wouldn't be killed (which was great btw, totally wasn't expecting that). So then when Magneto is on death row at the end & the professor lets him go, that's their first major parting of ways after that reunion, which explains why he doesn't just snap & let him be killed - they don't have that long history of different paths to their desired future built up yet. Makes more sense looking at it from that perspective.
6. I didn't like the Sentinels at all, especially the formless ones in the future that could magically do anything. Felt cheap. The older ones that looked like toy robots were better, but still looked like kind of a last-minute design to me (cheap).
7. Per a friend, what's the point of the stadium? It was kinda cool, but not really cool. Felt like they had to meet a deadline for an end-the-movie sequence, you know? Same with Quicksilver - awesome kid, great special effects, and then...gone. For the entire rest of the movie. What the heck!
8. I was disappointed in Wolverine I & II. Partly because of the writing, and partly because Wolverine is awesome and he spent much of the time not being awesome. It was the same thing in this movie. I liked that the movie was more adult-story oriented rather than kid-story oriented like Transformers, but I wish Wolverine had spent more time being Wolverine & doing awesome stuff. Captain America 2 comes to mind for a movie that combines great action with a fun story - they kept the story moving, but threw in tons of great fight scenes (in a way that you didn't get bored with), and it made the whole movie a lot better.
Overall it was fun, I appreciated the more adult storyline (kind of like they touched on with the Holocaust motivation for Magneto in the previous one), but I don't think I'll be buying it on Bluray for my collection.
1. Peter Dinklage (Trask) did a great job.
2. I did not like that Stryker turned out to be Mystique at the end. It would have been more awesome if it had been Stryker because then you would have known that Wolverine would have been bound to the same fate of being tortured, getting metal claws, losing his memory, etc. i.e. becoming the Wolverine that we know & love.
3. I liked that they brought Jean Gray back, because now they can do the whole Phoenix/space storyline if they want to, which opens the door to a lot more movies.
4. Quicksilver was amazing. I really enjoyed his parts. I felt they should have used him more, and should be have put in a token part about "hey, I'd like to get out of the basement, can I join your school?" I would love to see him in his own movie, same as Hawkeye. Really unexpected part & he did a phenomenal job. I also liked the bit about "my mom knew a guy who could do that with metal" hehehe...
5. It took me awhile to realize when Professor X didn't let the government guys take Magneto & kill him. After some discussion, I realized that Professor X still didn't realize just how much of a snake Magneto really is. His first talking encounter with him on the airplane makes them buddies again when he reveals that he was trying to curve the bullet away from JFK so wouldn't be killed (which was great btw, totally wasn't expecting that). So then when Magneto is on death row at the end & the professor lets him go, that's their first major parting of ways after that reunion, which explains why he doesn't just snap & let him be killed - they don't have that long history of different paths to their desired future built up yet. Makes more sense looking at it from that perspective.
6. I didn't like the Sentinels at all, especially the formless ones in the future that could magically do anything. Felt cheap. The older ones that looked like toy robots were better, but still looked like kind of a last-minute design to me (cheap).
7. Per a friend, what's the point of the stadium? It was kinda cool, but not really cool. Felt like they had to meet a deadline for an end-the-movie sequence, you know? Same with Quicksilver - awesome kid, great special effects, and then...gone. For the entire rest of the movie. What the heck!
8. I was disappointed in Wolverine I & II. Partly because of the writing, and partly because Wolverine is awesome and he spent much of the time not being awesome. It was the same thing in this movie. I liked that the movie was more adult-story oriented rather than kid-story oriented like Transformers, but I wish Wolverine had spent more time being Wolverine & doing awesome stuff. Captain America 2 comes to mind for a movie that combines great action with a fun story - they kept the story moving, but threw in tons of great fight scenes (in a way that you didn't get bored with), and it made the whole movie a lot better.
Overall it was fun, I appreciated the more adult storyline (kind of like they touched on with the Holocaust motivation for Magneto in the previous one), but I don't think I'll be buying it on Bluray for my collection.
HumblePie
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Kaido, your 6 and 7 are pretty much a couple of the minor gripes I had. But you know what? That is the same shit they do in comics so it was all good to me. We are talking about comic books where the villains all tell the hero their entire secret plan just after capturing the hero and thinking they've won. Only to have the hero pull out some bullshit crap that sets them free. Then they can save the day know the entire evil plan and how to counter it.
Well, this wasn't that cheesy, but the movie still had a bit of cheese. I really wish they did do more with Quicksilver too as that whole scene of his was effing hilarious. Everyone in the audience was laughing their asses off when I was watching it. Then to basically not use him the rest of the movie seemed very, very strange to me.
Well, this wasn't that cheesy, but the movie still had a bit of cheese. I really wish they did do more with Quicksilver too as that whole scene of his was effing hilarious. Everyone in the audience was laughing their asses off when I was watching it. Then to basically not use him the rest of the movie seemed very, very strange to me.
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Only problem with having Quicksilver around for the rest of the movie is he would make everything essentially pointless. He could have rushed in and grabbed Mystique without anyone knowing and we would have lost about 45 minutes of the movie, plus a lot of the conflict between Magneto and Mystique, etc.
I mean I loved the character too and the Time in a Bottle scene was amazing, but I think it's almost better just having that and leaving us wanting more.
KT
I mean I loved the character too and the Time in a Bottle scene was amazing, but I think it's almost better just having that and leaving us wanting more.
KT
HumblePie
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Having quicksilver around would have made their jobs easier by far. Which is why they should have had a scene explaining why they didn't bring him. Maybe them trying to convince him to go to Paris, and his mom saying no or something. Anything to give a small reason. But they just poofed him out instead. Minor oversight I can ignore, but it wouldn't have been much to add a scene to the movie about why he wasn't coming along after that.
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That's fair. It was a bit weird to have them just shake his hand, say thanks, then send him on his way. Was rather abrupt.
KT
The future sentinels look like they were inspired by Nimrod from the comics, which makes sense because by that time, to make the story work, the sentinels had to be advanced enough to be an effective threat to all mutants. Also, the way they wrote the story, it was Mystique's DNA which made the sentinels badass, so it makes sense that they were formless, just like Mystique.
The point was to barricade the White House so law enforcement/outsiders couldn't interfere and he could do his broadcast/announcement without interruption. Tactically, it was a good idea.
Did they ever bother to explain how Xavier came back from the dead after the atrocity that was Last Stand or how Magneto got his powers back?
They explained it by saying that movie doesn't exist. The end of Wolverine shows Magento and Charles together, basically saying "X-Men 3 didn't happen, just forget about it please".
And, with this "reboot", it effectively tells all audience members who didn't get the memo, they can just ignore everything that happened in X-3.
Well, they did reuse footage from X-3 in Days of Future Past (when they showed the memory of Wolverine killing Jean), so I guess it happened and it also didn't happen.
zinfamous
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I was surprised to actually like Quicksilver. always hated that guy in the comics...he is Magneto's bastard son, right?
what was going on in the final sequence after the credits--that was Apocalypse, right? I'm not all that familiar with him, but I know he has that weird religious cult that follows him and worships him as a god, and he's immortal or some shit--so it kinda makes sense that he's there building the pyramids--I just don't recall him ever being in female form. Is that something that he can do? I never was all that familiar with his powers or is storyline. He was kinda done with the X-Factor stuff shortly before I started reading any of that X Stuff.
what was going on in the final sequence after the credits--that was Apocalypse, right? I'm not all that familiar with him, but I know he has that weird religious cult that follows him and worships him as a god, and he's immortal or some shit--so it kinda makes sense that he's there building the pyramids--I just don't recall him ever being in female form. Is that something that he can do? I never was all that familiar with his powers or is storyline. He was kinda done with the X-Factor stuff shortly before I started reading any of that X Stuff.
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Yes, but it happened in the timeline where dark future world with crazy sentinels existed. Now Wolverine has altered that future and in doing so altered that movie out of existence I guess.
KT
waggy
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i happened to wolverine but nobody else. also why he didn't remember teh alternate timelines 40 years (or whatever it was).
i guess this also really explains how come he still has the admantium
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They alluded to it twice in the film. Quicksilver says his Mom used to know a guy who could control metal or something like that. Then there was the reaction of the Mom when seeing Magneto on the TV, which kind of hinted at it.
I thought that was a dude at the end, not a chick. :hmm:
KT
zinfamous
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Actually, that was explained in X3. After the credits, you get the scene where Xavier "wakes up" in someone's body. Moira McTaggert is there, and you here Picard say "Moira" and she's like "WTF?"
btw, that is something Xaviar always did--transfer his mind to someone, or trap it in the astral plane or dark plane--whatever that place was called--until he can find a suitable means to return to the real world. ...comics.
Of course, Jean Grey could also do that. I was thinking that when Jean exploded him, he transferred his mind to her consiousness and remained hidden, and that was Jean's body at the end...bringing them both back.
Yes and no...Both Xaviar and Jean are pretty tough to kill. They can both return however they want. It is possible that Wolvie did wakeup after those events, and they had all returned (remember that Jean Grey's hair is all super red in that scene, so she probably Phoenixed at some point in that timeline.)
However, I still think you're correct because how is Scott back? (Cyclops is super lame and can't do shit. If he's dead, he's dead.) Also: Rogue. She left to get cured in X3, so she wouldn't be there with Iceman. I still took it as Wolverine waking up at some separate timeline, owing to the fact that stopping that assassination would essentially change everything that had occurred in some way, included X2--sucks, because I still think that's the best one so far.
DoFP was really good, however. Fassbender is excellent as Magneto.
zinfamous
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Oh yea, I do recall Quicksilver saying that. Probably what reminded me of that. They both had pure white hair in the comics.
a dude eh? looked lady-like to me. :\
zinfamous
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Oh--also X3 still could have happened, with Magneto and Charles together. We knew that Magneto was getting his powers back with the very last shot, as well...which basically shows that the cure wasn't really permanent, at least not for the most powerful of mutants. Or it simply never was permanent like they thought. This could explain the return of Rogue.
The only issue, really, is the return of Scott. Cyclops is a douche and he should just stay dead.
The only issue, really, is the return of Scott. Cyclops is a douche and he should just stay dead.
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