JSt0rm
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One annoying problem was that you could start off too close to them. One blaster bomb early on could wipe out your whole force.
Harrod
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I had that happen once in TFTD, I opened the door and they threw a grenade into my ship, what sucked is that I had been using the same save the whole time, and basically lost the entire crew as well as the ship.
Brian Reynolds' Alpha Centauri.
I will still be in the line to pick up Xcom as soon as it's available though.
JSt0rm
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But the memory of that happening persists far longer then pwning in the mission. So congrats.
Born2bwire
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Uggg... I hated Terror From the Deep. Those damn cruise ship missions never ended. I just started ignoring them out of spite.
JSt0rm
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I own it but never really played it. Is it really bad? Or just not as good as xcom?
Arg Clin
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IMO as good or maybe even slightly better than xcom. Had the same atmosphere feel that made xcome great.
But first time you got one, they were really cool. After that they got tedious.
Harrod
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I've heard some people say that the AI is more aggressive in it, the cruise ships missions are huge, with lots of little cabins that aliens can hide in, and there is an upper deck stage, as well as a lower deck stage. Both have about 3 levels of decking to them that you have to clear out.
I'm excited about both projects, hopefully at least one of them will turn into something. XCOM is still one of my all-time favourite games. I even played both Enemy Unknown and TFTD a couple years ago on DOSBox and despite clearly outdated graphics, still had a blast with them.
JSt0rm
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They are available on steam as well. I dont think I have tried to run them since upgrading to windows 7 but maybe i will try tftd tonight.
Born2bwire
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Hah. The first time I did it, I squeaked by ok on the first part but I was running low on ammo. I was so relieved when I finished it but then it loads up the lower decks. FUCK! Didn't know there were multiple parts to the level and I only stocked up treating it like a terror site mission. So then I was running around on the lower decks trying to cattleprod and grenade the last batch of aliens.
I hated it. I played XCOM a lot but I only got Terror From the Deep recently off of Steam when they had a sale. It's basically just XCOM in the water. They did not really change much of the game but they did add some elements that I just found really annoying and tedious. The worst are the cruise ship missions because it's like three sets of terror missions all at once. You end up spending a whole day or afternoon on just one of those things.
Go ahead and wait for the complete pack on Steam to go on sale and then pick it up (I got it for like $5 or something ridiculous). I tried them all out but I end up only playing the original these days.
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My favorite, memorable mission was a cruise ship mission that I suceeded at, no losses, without using a single save.
But other parts certainly had issues. Throwing grenades underwater was....slightly.... immersion breaking.
GoodRevrnd
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Basically. It's just DosBox. I found I needed to edit the conf file to up the cycle limit from 8000 to 16000. You might as well change it to fullscreen set res to monitor native and enable maintain aspect as well. My biggest gripe is how clunky mouse movements are. I constantly misclick things.
It's the same game mechanics and concept and pretty much everything, just underwater and they added longer and more complex missions. I agree that they can sometimes be a bit tedious. On the positive side, TFTD was considerably harder to play, especially in the beginning. And I liked how you could open doors with right-click without entering the room, in XCOM 1 you always had to blindly run into the room and hope bad guys aren't waiting. Altogether, I liked both about equal, perhaps UFO 1 a bit more purely for the novelty.
On an unrelated note, I remember in the 90's playing some version which had nearly unlimited TUs, seems like it was some bug that was fixed later (and was in the pack that I bought cople years ago
). I kinda liked it before - near the end my veteran soldiers had like 120-140 TUs, in the "fixed" version they level up to 80 and stop improving after that.A few years ago I ran them on 64-bit Vista. Win 7 is the same thing architecture/driver-wise, so I'd expect no problems.JSt0rm said:
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Born2bwire
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Yeah, no problems running them on Win 7 because of DOSBox. The only things I change is to run DOSBox in my native resolution and preserve the original aspect ratio. That's just a personal preference because I think it looks better than having the graphics card upscale the resolution.
Born2bwire
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Ok, for those asking how to run this in Win 7, I started a new thread.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2218181
Turns out, you do get the later Windows version of XCOM: UFO Defense if you buy the Steam version. The windows version has a few fixes in it and you can also apply further bug fixes and mods (the mods are optional) to it as well. So I think I will make the Windows version my goto version. Check out the thread to see how to set it up.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2218181
Turns out, you do get the later Windows version of XCOM: UFO Defense if you buy the Steam version. The windows version has a few fixes in it and you can also apply further bug fixes and mods (the mods are optional) to it as well. So I think I will make the Windows version my goto version. Check out the thread to see how to set it up.
AyashiKaibutsu
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If anyone is planning on playing x-com apocalypse make sure you get the new version of dosbox and drop it into the folder. Otherwise, you'll get requests for cd fairly frequently. Also, there's a fan patch for enemy unknown; fixes a lot of lingering issues, and has some mods that are optional when you install.
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First screens available:
http://kotaku.com/5874369/x+com-enemy-unknown-will-re+imagine-classic-x+com-first-screens-prove-it
From the description it looks like they will keep the real time geoscape, pause during base management and turn based tactical combat = YES!
:awe:
http://kotaku.com/5874369/x+com-enemy-unknown-will-re+imagine-classic-x+com-first-screens-prove-it
From the description it looks like they will keep the real time geoscape, pause during base management and turn based tactical combat = YES!
:awe:
AyashiKaibutsu
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I hope they have a real time option for tactical. I liked Apocalypses style over the ideal Enemy Unknown strategy of doing everything possible to not let the enemy every get to fire at you.
paperfist
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once ea buys firaxis you will get that as dlc
?
Firaxis pumps out an awful lot of DLC for Civilization. If they were as big as EA they would rival their DLC content.
Which ones are the aliens in that pic? hehe
I'm just glad I didn't purchase that indy X-COM remake.
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