WWYD if your child was gay?

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: NFS4
It'd be a shock to the system at first. I'd probably even have some reservations about it and wonder if I did something wrong in parenting. Then I'd likely get over and and accept it.

Anyone who says that they wouldn't have some sort of internal turmoil is a ****ing liar... IMHO

Then call me a ****ing liar. I know I would have had some issues years ago(when I was a teenager), but I have too many great friends who are great people who just happen to be homosexual. Of course I can't be 100% sure, but I really don't think I'd give a shit.

You're gonna sit there and tell me that your kid comes to the dinner table one day and says they're gay and all you do is say "That's nice honey, I'm happy for you. Pass the spinach?"

I don't care who you are, if you've known someone all your life and they just "change" all of a sudden, there has GOT to be some inner monologue going on with regards to the change.

I don't have any problems with homosexuals, but if my best friend were to come up to me today and say "I'm gay," you better believe that I'd be running things back in my mind from the 8 years we've known each other. I love the guy like a brother, but only a robot can take that kind of news and just immediately accept it without reservation.

I'd sit down and talk with him/her about it. It's a pretty fucking big deal for how their life is going to turn out, so no it's not "pass the spinach" news.

But I don't think I'm going to be wondering if I did anything wrong or struggling with myself over the news.

The best friend comparison is different from the son/daughter one. You don't raise your best friend, but you DO raise your son/daughter.

And I think that it would be normal for just about any parent to doubt themselves if presented with that news... it's just human nature.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i don't think mods should post like that, they are supposed to be dispationate anonymous enforcers.
imagine if cops started voicing personal opinions at abortion rallys.

Another person who can't seperate the government from a privately owned forum :roll:

 

[manowar821]

I wouldn't care, I've never had a problem with gays.

I'd probably work (harder than I do already) to push for legalization of gay marriage, though, since it would suddenly be personal to me.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: NFS4
It'd be a shock to the system at first. I'd probably even have some reservations about it and wonder if I did something wrong in parenting. Then I'd likely get over and and accept it.

Anyone who says that they wouldn't have some sort of internal turmoil is a ****ing liar... IMHO

Then call me a ****ing liar. I know I would have had some issues years ago(when I was a teenager), but I have too many great friends who are great people who just happen to be homosexual. Of course I can't be 100% sure, but I really don't think I'd give a shit.

You're gonna sit there and tell me that your kid comes to the dinner table one day and says they're gay and all you do is say "That's nice honey, I'm happy for you. Pass the spinach?"

I don't care who you are, if you've known someone all your life and they just "change" all of a sudden, there has GOT to be some inner monologue going on with regards to the change.

I don't have any problems with homosexuals, but if my best friend were to come up to me today and say "I'm gay," you better believe that I'd be running things back in my mind from the 8 years we've known each other. I love the guy like a brother, but only a robot can take that kind of news and just immediately accept it without reservation.

probably depends how many kids you have.
if its your only kid...ouch...
if you got like 2...sorta ouch
if you have your own army of children u'll be like meh

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: KK
And what is the point of this thread. If anyone says anything negative, Miss mod is going to jump down their throats. Sounds like a setup to me.

I'm sure she was just trying to make sure no one got upset. There are a bunch of homosexuals on the board and talk of aborting kids and starting over (I think that's what I saw), and shipping your kid off can be quite upsetting.
And in a way it can be. Poor kid. Grows up to be something daddy and mommy don't like. Value drops. They start over. It's just mean. My bf was kicked out of the house because his father was embarrassed. If the church or the country club ever found out, he would be the laughing stock.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: NFS4
It'd be a shock to the system at first. I'd probably even have some reservations about it and wonder if I did something wrong in parenting. Then I'd likely get over and and accept it.

Anyone who says that they wouldn't have some sort of internal turmoil is a ****ing liar... IMHO

Then call me a ****ing liar. I know I would have had some issues years ago(when I was a teenager), but I have too many great friends who are great people who just happen to be homosexual. Of course I can't be 100% sure, but I really don't think I'd give a shit.

You're gonna sit there and tell me that your kid comes to the dinner table one day and says they're gay and all you do is say "That's nice honey, I'm happy for you. Pass the spinach?"

I don't care who you are, if you've known someone all your life and they just "change" all of a sudden, there has GOT to be some inner monologue going on with regards to the change.

I don't have any problems with homosexuals, but if my best friend were to come up to me today and say "I'm gay," you better believe that I'd be running things back in my mind from the 8 years we've known each other. I love the guy like a brother, but only a robot can take that kind of news and just immediately accept it without reservation.

I'd sit down and talk with him/her about it. It's a pretty fucking big deal for how their life is going to turn out, so no it's not "pass the spinach" news.

But I don't think I'm going to be wondering if I did anything wrong or struggling with myself over the news.

The best friend comparison is different from the son/daughter one. You don't raise your best friend, but you DO raise your son/daughter.

And I think that it would be normal for just about any parent to doubt themselves if presented with that news... it's just human nature.

We'll agree to disagree then.

 

[aphex]

I'd treat them the same as I would treat any other child...

 

[waggy]

what a stupid thread.

as others said you say anything negative you get a threat of ban. so anything some say is a lie.

it should be locked. its just another excuse to ban or threatan bans same as "change of colture" was.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: aphex
I'd treat them the same as I would treat any other child...

**BADLY!!**

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: intogamer

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I wouldnt do anything. A sexual preference is something you are born with, not something you learn or choose. It can't be changed whether you want it changed it or not.

What about if he/she turned gay.

Being gay isn't like catching a cold or just deciding you're bored with being straight.

Oh come on now, you're saying gay can't be a decision?

I got some ocean front property in Arizona, interested?

So what, someone decides to be gay because it's the hip thing to do? At definition you have to be romantically attracted to your own sex. You don't decide to be attracted to your own sex, you decide whether or not to come out of the closet. You can come to the realization that you're gay....but it's still not a "choice".

 

[0roo0roo]

basically if you can choose, you never had to you were bi....

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: TheFamilyMan

Originally posted by: fatdragondzc
sleep on it and wen i wake up hopefulli its all a dream. if not, time make a new baby and start from scratch. label this one failure and send it off.

We have many good, contributing members who happen to be gay.
You may not continue to post such verbal abuse on our forums.
Doing so again may be reason to suspend your posting privileges for an indefinite period of time.

Is that clear?

AnandTech Moderator hzl

Not trying to call a mod out here, but please explain why ATOT also has many good, contributing members who happen to be Catholic, Christian, et al and they suffer worse abuse at the hands of many agnostic, atheistic and anti-religion posters? Why are the anti-religious posters not sent on vacation/banned or at least held to the same standards mods like holding someone who posts something regarding anything but positive responses regarding homosexuality? I mean ffs, a topic was locked because someone called people who think Tony Romo is good "Tony Romo-Homo's" (which is quite fifth-grade but made me chuckle regardless) but I've seen more than one post bashing/flaming/attacking religious beliefs that had mods posting within...

QFT, although what do you expect in the new communist AT world. At least I wasn't disapointed in my estimate of the replies once I saw the thread title and number of replies.

 

[BeauJangles]

The conduct of the mods in this thread has been completely inappropriate. Using moderator privileges to respond directly to someone is waaay out of line, as is having an agenda when locking a thread, handing out bans, or warning members.

Examples like the text below are absolutely inappropriate.

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
what could you do? we don't have dna fixing machines or whatever yet.

Would you really need to fix him/her?

Anandtech Moderator hzl

Either lock the thread early because you don't want the homophobic responses OR let people speak their mind. I don't like the homophobic overtones in this thread very much, but if the mods are going to allow this thread to continue without locking the whole thing up, they can't start doling out bans because people disagree with them.

It's complete bullshit that hzl used her moderator privilege to reply to people as though she was posting in the thread.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
The conduct of the mods in this thread has been completely inappropriate. Using moderator privileges to respond directly to someone is waaay out of line, as is having an agenda when locking a thread, handing out bans, or warning members.

Examples like the text below are absolutely inappropriate.

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
what could you do? we don't have dna fixing machines or whatever yet.

Would you really need to fix him/her?

Anandtech Moderator hzl

Either lock the thread early because you don't want the homophobic responses OR let people speak their mind. I don't like the homophobic overtones in this thread very much, but if the mods are going to allow this thread to continue without locking the whole thing up, they can't start doling out bans because people disagree with them.

It's complete bullshit that hzl used her moderator privilege to reply to people as though she was posting in the thread.

Well, I do think that opinions like that should be posted just as a regular member not "as" a moderator. If the moderator thinks the material is too offensive, that would be another matter.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
The conduct of the mods in this thread has been completely inappropriate. Using moderator privileges to respond directly to someone is waaay out of line, as is having an agenda when locking a thread, handing out bans, or warning members.

Examples like the text below are absolutely inappropriate.

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
what could you do? we don't have dna fixing machines or whatever yet.

Would you really need to fix him/her?

Anandtech Moderator hzl

Either lock the thread early because you don't want the homophobic responses OR let people speak their mind. I don't like the homophobic overtones in this thread very much, but if the mods are going to allow this thread to continue without locking the whole thing up, they can't start doling out bans because people disagree with them.

It's complete bullshit that hzl used her moderator privilege to reply to people as though she was posting in the thread.

exactly.

you can't have a discussion and threaten any that have a diffrent viewpoint.

just lock the damn thread and stop the threats.

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: TheFamilyMan

Originally posted by: fatdragondzc
sleep on it and wen i wake up hopefulli its all a dream. if not, time make a new baby and start from scratch. label this one failure and send it off.

We have many good, contributing members who happen to be gay.
You may not continue to post such verbal abuse on our forums.
Doing so again may be reason to suspend your posting privileges for an indefinite period of time.

Is that clear?

AnandTech Moderator hzl

Not trying to call a mod out here, but please explain why ATOT also has many good, contributing members who happen to be Catholic, Christian, et al and they suffer worse abuse at the hands of many agnostic, atheistic and anti-religion posters? Why are the anti-religious posters not sent on vacation/banned or at least held to the same standards mods like holding someone who posts something regarding anything but positive responses regarding homosexuality? I mean ffs, a topic was locked because someone called people who think Tony Romo is good "Tony Romo-Homo's" (which is quite fifth-grade but made me chuckle regardless) but I've seen more than one post bashing/flaming/attacking religious beliefs that had mods posting within...

QFT, although what do you expect in the new communist AT world. At least I wasn't disapointed in my estimate of the replies once I saw the thread title and number of replies.

Because anyway you look at it, religion is a true choice.
You are not born a Catholic. You are not born Baptist.
Religion has always been a center point for arguments because in essence it is no more than an opinion. And unfortunately the opinions of the masses can alter the world of people who don't believe in what you do. There is a lot of resentment when it comes to religion.

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
It's complete bullshit that hzl used her moderator privilege to reply to people as though she was posting in the thread.

i think the correct avenue to pursue this is by Pm'ing Derek
otherwise it could be construed as a mod callout

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
It's complete bullshit that hzl used her moderator privilege to reply to people as though she was posting in the thread.

i think the correct avenue to pursue this is by Pm'ing Derek
otherwise it could be construed as a mod callout

If she's going to use her moderator privileges to post personal opinions then, yes, I am calling her out.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
It's complete bullshit that hzl used her moderator privilege to reply to people as though she was posting in the thread.

i think the correct avenue to pursue this is by Pm'ing Derek
otherwise it could be construed as a mod callout

If she's going to use her moderator privileges to post personal opinions then, yes, I am calling her out.

See ya.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
It's complete bullshit that hzl used her moderator privilege to reply to people as though she was posting in the thread.

i think the correct avenue to pursue this is by Pm'ing Derek
otherwise it could be construed as a mod callout

true.

but i have to say its one that deserves a callout. (nothing personal against hazle though).


the guy asked a quesiton. any post that does nto go in line with the OP is threatened.

 

[Skacer]

Personally, I was waiting for someone to say they'd throw their gay baby down a well. But when all the tame responses got axed I knew my dream of a good old fashioned conservative, emotion fueled response was a loss.

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
It's complete bullshit that hzl used her moderator privilege to reply to people as though she was posting in the thread.

i think the correct avenue to pursue this is by Pm'ing Derek
otherwise it could be construed as a mod callout

If she's going to use her moderator privileges to post personal opinions then, yes, I am calling her out.

my point is that peoples that are concerned about this issue need to PM Derek, he doesn't read all the OT threads, so your post here isn't going to get this the attention you seek

 

[SpunkyJones]

Originally posted by: NFS4
It'd be a shock to the system at first. I'd probably even have some reservations about it and wonder if I did something wrong in parenting. Then I'd likely get over and and accept it.

Anyone who says that they wouldn't have some sort of internal turmoil is a ****ing liar... IMHO

Agreed. At first I'd be like OMGWTFWATERMELONBBQ!!!!!!! What did I do wrong, did I hug them too much? Not hug them enough? I'd question what I did as a parent, wondering if I shouldn't have taken her to those football games, why did I bring him to the dam ballet? BALLET!!!

But over time I'd calm down and my love for my child would overcome any initial concern/confusion on my part. In the long run, as long as they are happy and well, I'll be happy.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
It's complete bullshit that hzl used her moderator privilege to reply to people as though she was posting in the thread.

i think the correct avenue to pursue this is by Pm'ing Derek
otherwise it could be construed as a mod callout

If she's going to use her moderator privileges to post personal opinions then, yes, I am calling her out.

my point is that peoples that are concerned about this issue need to PM Derek, he doesn't read all the OT threads, so your post here isn't going to get this the attention you seek

My understanding is that we don't get to decide when we think it's appropriate to call out a mod in a thread. If you have an issue with a mod, you "call them out" with a PM to Anandtech Moderator, if it's a Senior Mod, you pm Derek. I thought those were the only acceptable avenues of protest.

 

[FoBoT]

yeah, what Turin39789 said, if someone thinks this thread should be reviewed by a "higher power", then do what Turin39789 said

that is what i mean. doing that is the right thing to do that could help resolve the issue