I'm 50/50 on the whole auto/manual thing. If it weren't for hills, I would definitely prefer manual.
Twista
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Originally posted by: Xyclone
Automatic FTW, it's so easy man.
I want to be able to eat/drink coffee and only use 1 leg while I drive.
Umm, you can do that in a stick also =) but still its dangerous man. FOCUS on th eraod and not eatting and drinking. I once ate mc donalds while driving and had no problems shifting, but that was only once when i had to get back to a class starting in like 8min.
The reason i wanted a stick:
With the right exhaust and a v8 mustang... it sounds beatiful to downshift a mustang GT and up! Its sound so nice to hear a mustang shifting.. i mean its vhrrooooom...... pause.......... vhrooommmm....... pause vhrroooomm in a nice deep exhaust tone. =) 1 big reason why i have a stick stang..
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Rock Hydra
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I drive a stick in my Honda wagon, and I don't think I'm some boy-racer because of it. I don't drive it like I think I'm at the controls of a C6 or anything. If anything, I drive more slowly than ever because I adjust my driving and shifting to save on gas.
Why do I drive a stick? Because I wanted to learn how, that's why. Just in case I ever wanted to own a sports car with a standard, or I found a car that I liked with a great price, but it only came in standard. Or I had to borrow a friends car/truck, and it had a standard. To get better performance out of a four banger. For fewer qualms about reliability if I was ever interested in a car with a questionable transmission, or history with transmissions. Better fuel economy, though that's an older argument that's becoming less true with modern automatics. Because I saw people that could drive a stick, and I thought it was cool watching them do what they do. I respected them for that ability. Just because it's one of those things in life that I wanted to learn how to do.
Why do I like driving stick? Because I think it's fun. To me, it's boring as hell driving a car with just stop and go pedals. I feel like driving with a clutch and shifter is how driving a car should feel. There's much more interaction and feel for the car and what it's doing, more control and directness. It's more exhilarating to drive. There's also a nice feeling of pride that comes with rowing my own gears, especially when I'm actually pushing my car to do something instead of just plodding from stoplight to stoplight. Like I said, not boy-racer stuff here, but it's sure more fun than simply pushing the gas a little harder to make the car go faster.
My wife agrees with me on this. I showed her the basics, she got her own car with a standard, and she loves it. She has a lot of fun driving a stick, and she commands a lot of cool factor and respect because she can, and does, and enjoys it.
Of course I see the other side of this too. I'm not a daily driver type, so I don't usually have to deal with rush hour and traffic jams. But I can certainly see how people would prefer an automatic to a standard for traffic. That's obvious. Shifting is smooth and quick, it's easy. There are certainly benefits to it. Sometimes I wish I had an automatic, when I do manage to get myself caught in traffic. Especially when I'm traveling and I get lost in unknown territory. I usually get myself flustered, especially in hilly areas, and I'll slip up and stall out at a stop or something. It's embarrassing, which just makes me more flustered and more prone to mistakes. I can also see age being a problem, for those who don't have the joints or muscles for all of the clutch work, especially if they're also daily drivers.
Why do I drive a stick? Because I wanted to learn how, that's why. Just in case I ever wanted to own a sports car with a standard, or I found a car that I liked with a great price, but it only came in standard. Or I had to borrow a friends car/truck, and it had a standard. To get better performance out of a four banger. For fewer qualms about reliability if I was ever interested in a car with a questionable transmission, or history with transmissions. Better fuel economy, though that's an older argument that's becoming less true with modern automatics. Because I saw people that could drive a stick, and I thought it was cool watching them do what they do. I respected them for that ability. Just because it's one of those things in life that I wanted to learn how to do.
Why do I like driving stick? Because I think it's fun. To me, it's boring as hell driving a car with just stop and go pedals. I feel like driving with a clutch and shifter is how driving a car should feel. There's much more interaction and feel for the car and what it's doing, more control and directness. It's more exhilarating to drive. There's also a nice feeling of pride that comes with rowing my own gears, especially when I'm actually pushing my car to do something instead of just plodding from stoplight to stoplight. Like I said, not boy-racer stuff here, but it's sure more fun than simply pushing the gas a little harder to make the car go faster.
My wife agrees with me on this. I showed her the basics, she got her own car with a standard, and she loves it. She has a lot of fun driving a stick, and she commands a lot of cool factor and respect because she can, and does, and enjoys it.
Of course I see the other side of this too. I'm not a daily driver type, so I don't usually have to deal with rush hour and traffic jams. But I can certainly see how people would prefer an automatic to a standard for traffic. That's obvious. Shifting is smooth and quick, it's easy. There are certainly benefits to it. Sometimes I wish I had an automatic, when I do manage to get myself caught in traffic. Especially when I'm traveling and I get lost in unknown territory. I usually get myself flustered, especially in hilly areas, and I'll slip up and stall out at a stop or something. It's embarrassing, which just makes me more flustered and more prone to mistakes. I can also see age being a problem, for those who don't have the joints or muscles for all of the clutch work, especially if they're also daily drivers.
I drive much more conservatively and slower than any of my friends with an auto. They have less of a connection with the car, so they have no idea what is going on when they mash the accelerator or the brake. I pay far more attention to what I'm doing.
You're an idiot if you buy a manual to get to 60mph .2 second faster rather than because you like shifting, so don't make it out to be about performance..
Edit: And I love to shift at 2500rpm or less (that is pretty low considering it's a 2.4L and not a big ass V8). I'd prefer a diesel actually.
I learned on manual. And i still drive the car I learned with, 1987 honda accord. 227,000 miles and runs awesome.
Don't plan on getting another car, but if I did, my next car will be a manual.
Don't plan on getting another car, but if I did, my next car will be a manual.
a) More engine power goes to the wheels, less used up driving the transmission.
b) More control over car. I used to tow my sailboat and appreciated the control the stick shift gave me. Automatic trans wants to shift at wrong times when towing.
c) Costs less.
d) More fun to drive, except in traffic.
I've never owned an auto.
b) More control over car. I used to tow my sailboat and appreciated the control the stick shift gave me. Automatic trans wants to shift at wrong times when towing.
c) Costs less.
d) More fun to drive, except in traffic.
I've never owned an auto.
I find it funny when economy cars have automatics, to me that defeats the purpose of economy.
I drive stick shift because its cheap
Stick shift advantages
Lower initial price
Smaller, less powerful engines work better with stick shifts
Better gas mileage if shifted properly
Less wear on breaks
Corolla with stick shift is economic, Corolla with automatic not so economic.
I love the standard, but the automatic lets me do things like talk on the phone, read, and play video games while I drive. j/k
Truly, I wanted a car with a standard transmission, but the automatic comes in handy sometimes too.
Truly, I wanted a car with a standard transmission, but the automatic comes in handy sometimes too.
MasterAndCommander
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Because they lack real accomplishments in life, and think knowing how to drive manual is a big one.
Just a example of how good gas mileage you can get in a stickshift.
My commute when I went to school, all city driving
My 2003 Honda Civic EX automatic, rated city 30 actual 29-30
My 2005 Scion TC stickshift, rated city 22 actual 27-28
No, I dont drive slow, but you can see how my automatic got worse than its rating but my manual got much better.
My commute when I went to school, all city driving
My 2003 Honda Civic EX automatic, rated city 30 actual 29-30
My 2005 Scion TC stickshift, rated city 22 actual 27-28
No, I dont drive slow, but you can see how my automatic got worse than its rating but my manual got much better.
uh, a lot of people drive stick shifts because of the lower price of vehicles with manuals, not because of your reason.
DainBramaged
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My first car was a stick when I was 16. Since then, I can't stand not having total control over the transmission.
OrganizedChaos
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i've never driven a stick ( only know one person with one and hes not about to let me learn on his TKO TREMEC) but i think i'd like one with my next vehicle. my current automatic sucks, when i've got alot of crap in the back of my truck it seems to get confused.
I've always had a manual transmission car. I do however have a car thats auto trans but that's for getting around San Francisco and other hilly areas.
Yep but not in the way that would be more economical to the Scion TC. I actually drive my Scion TC harder because it has much more engine pickup than the Honda.
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