Take your rolling eyes and cram 'em... It's called an opinion. Maybe you're familiar with the term? And I know all about "what they say" about opinions. I'll feel free to express mine whenever I feel like it. I do not pass off them off as fact and I make no bones about it. And to say I know nothing about people who carry guns is a bit presumptuous and ASSuming on your part. I happen to know plenty of gunowners (I live in fvcking Kansas for God's sake). I know enough gunowners to get a pretty good lock on the "typical" gunowner. Disagree all you want. You have an agenda to push, AmusedOne. Sorry that you're blind to that.Let me get this straight... This all boils down to you ASSuming what other people's motives are for owning or carrying guns? Well, why didn't you just say, "Look, I have my own biased and preconceived notions about people I know nothing about, and I don't like you challenging that." and I would have ignored you to begin with.
Originally posted by: luv2chill
Take your rolling eyes and cram 'em... It's called an opinion. Maybe you're familiar with the term? And I know all about "what they say" about opinions. I'll feel free to express mine whenever I feel like it. I do not pass off them off as fact and I make no bones about it. And to say I know nothing about people who carry guns is a bit presumptuous and ASSuming on your part. I happen to know plenty of gunowners (I live in fvcking Kansas for God's sake). I know enough gunowners to get a pretty good lock on the "typical" gunowner. Disagree all you want. You have an agenda to push, AmusedOne. Sorry that you're blind to that.Let me get this straight... This all boils down to you ASSuming what other people's motives are for owning or carrying guns? Well, why didn't you just say, "Look, I have my own biased and preconceived notions about people I know nothing about, and I don't like you challenging that." and I would have ignored you to begin with.
Compared to most people at these forums, I have a very open mind. I don't let my feelings determine my official stance on an issue. Consider gun ownership. My feelings on the matter are that it's unneccessary to carry guns with you and keep them under your mattress. Do you see me advocating a government ban on gun ownership? NOPE. But my feelings on a particular issue do influence my own personal life. As in, I think carrying a gun is unneccessary, so therefore I will not carry one.
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Irrational? Throwing that word around doesn't earn you any golden stars. Nothing I said was the remotest bit irrational. Biased? Perhaps. Find me an opinion that isn't. Come on AO, let's hear about your completely unbiased opinions.
I never leave home without it. No, my chance of being attacked is slim. My chance of having to use CPR is also very slim, but I still take the class. The chance of my house burning down is slim, but I still have insurance. Bottom line is, why should I take a chance with my life when there's a simple solution available? Yes, I do enjoy the feeling that my life is under my control, not the criminal.
Why? Have you ever been shot in a theater? You're name isn't Lincoln, is it?
Zero purpose? That's a concept I don't understand. Men brutalized each other thousands of years ago with tools made of stone. Do you support a ban on rocks?
Now I'm starting to understand you. You're content to lay down and give your life to the criminal. Your guess would be pathetically wrong.
I don't put firearms up my wazoo. That would be unwise. It's partially about control, but not the way you see it. You're thinking about "controlling others" and I'm thinking about "controlling my life/power over my life".
When I took my concealed carry class, there were 8 people in the class. Four were women.
A victim?? Hardly. I'll defend myself with my fists, thank you very much. If I happen to be fatally wounded by a gun-wielding punk or a myocardial infarction (read: heart attack), so be it. It was my time to go. No victim... you won't see my crying about how I should have blown away the punk or performed CPR on myself. Them's the shakes. Life is short but sweet for certain. Carrying a gun isn't proven to lengthen life, so what is the allure? The possibility that you MIGHT be able to use it to ward off death? Should I carry around a defibrillator in just in case I feel Ventricular Tachycardia coming on? Should I pack potassium iodide so that I could possibly survive the radiation from a nuclear meltdown or warhead? See where I'm going with this?
Hahahahahahaha... REAL WORLD fact huh? That's a laugh. Statistics don't make something factual... you of all people should know that. Oh, and my claim is half-assed? That sounds like a biased opinion to me. For your information, all of my opinions consist of both cheeks and the hole.
I remember myocardial infarction from my ECA class to mean death of heart muscle, not heart attack.
The difference is that your choice directly affects the lives of other people. If I choose to gorge myself on Big Macs and chocolate cake--that's my problem and my problem only. Your gun *could* potentially be my problem. I don't care what you all say about responsible gun owners. I'm sure many (if not most) are cool about it. But how am I supposed to be sure of that? A lot of nuts legally own guns too, and their possession of such in the same room could lead to my being shot inadvertantly. More guns statistically equals more potential outcomes where I could end up shot.
No, it's not a fact for them or anyone else that possession of a gun lengthened their life. Because they do not *know* with certainty what would have transpired if they had not had that gun. They may sleep better at night thinking that the gun is protecting them, but it all boils down to a security blanket.
I remember myocardial infarction from my ECA class to mean death of heart muscle, not heart attack.
Anyway, your examples are irrational. I've been involved with first aid/safety for a few years and have never heard of anyone doing CPR on themselves or hooking an AED up to themselves. If you're caught by a nuclear warhead, I don't think a little potassium is going to save you. I guess, no, I don't see where you're going with this. For your sake, I hope you're never atacked. And if you are, I hope the attacker is unarmed and puny. Otherwise, you may be "just another victim".
You're a skipping record! And you're not making any sense at all. In the post where I feigned laughter (hint: it was sarcastic... I wasn't really laughing), I didn't express any completely unfounded or irrational fears.
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