WTF happened in London?! ***EDIT: multiple coordinated terrorist bomb attacks***

[EKKC]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: EKKC

Originally posted by: conjur
The same can be said of any extremist faction of a religious group. There are plenty of idiot Christians out there giving Christianity a bad name. At least they're not involved in acts of mass death like these terrorists, though.

do i see chinese people bombing madrid or any other places? no. we chinese only care about $$$
do i see radical japs releasing sarin in LA subways? no. they target their own government
do i see chechnya rebels taking hostages in a, say, Polish school? no. they target russians
do i see stupid christians bombing other countries? no.
do i see pro-lifers, animal loving freaks and environmental freaks carrying out mass-murder? no.
do i see any ANY groups besides islamists going around videotaping the execution and decapitation of hostages? HELL NO
do i see ANY groups besides islamists saying they want to cause maximum casualties amongs innocent civilians? HELL NO

do i see radical islamists killing their own people for their stupid cause? yes
do i see radical islamists mass murdering civilians in new york, bali, middle east, madrid, london? yes.
do i see radical islamists video taping the execution of americans, westerners, asians, and their very own muslims they brand as traitors? YES
do i see radical islamists making claims that they want to cause maximum casualties amongst american/british civilians? HELL YES

Settle down, Beavis. They're just catching up on what the Catholic Church did centuries ago.

But, in a way, you're agreeing with me but not far enough. They don't represent Islam anymore than Eric Rudolph represents Christianity.

im sure.
none of the radical groups represents everyone who share their beliefs.

do all pro-lifers want to bomb abortion clinics? no
do all environmentalists condone teh radicals' actions? no

BUT, and here's the big but, the amount of extremist islamists is growing in number with the stupid Iraq war, and that these people ARE WILLING TO DIE for their beliefs make them ultra dangerous. and everything they do just makes everyone in the world sick to their stomach. you kill one, there's 100 of them afterwards, and all 100 of them can take their own lives just to cause more civilian deaths. and that is what separates these sick fvcks than your normal extremist groups

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: UNCjigga
Holy CRAP, family FINALLY got in touch with cousin living in London. Apparently she lives right near one of the stations that was bombed and was in the tube when it happened, but her train was not the one bombed. Her train came to an abrupt stop, and then emergency crews + police told them they had to evacuate. She was far enough away by then that she didn't hear the blast and didn't even know what was going on until she got to the surface and saw everyone in shock/horror/crying etc. She walked to work but didn't realize how close a brush with terror she had until after the news has been trickling in. She couldn't use the phone to dial out until like 1:30 her time...networks are all jammed and cell networks even worse. I'm getting all of this second-hand from my sister and father--haven't been able to talk to her yet but I'm going to try Skyping her this afternoon.

Glad she's fine!

The cell network was shutdown as the terrorists use cell phones as detonators.

That and the fact that here in the UK it has an Emergency overload mode which reserves a fair chunk of capacity for special allocated emrgency service phones and numbers, just for these type of situations. You can't make a call, but a copper can.

 

[EKKC]

better than new york. 2 years after sept 11. cops had to wait on line for public phones during the black out.

NEW YORK! NORTHEAST BLACKOUT! COPS WAITING ON LINE TO USE PUBLIC PHONES!

something is def not right. when those 3 goes together. it's just screaming "our infrastructure is so backwards, we're begging for another attack!"

edit: now that i think of it they might be waiting for making personal calls. walkies on radio should still work. knowing how NYC cops always do personal stuff on the job...

 

[krcat1]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: RichPLS
The terrorists are muslims, not towelies, Ekkc.

They're not even Muslims. They don't represent the Muslim faith. No more so than someone like Eric Rudolph represents Christianity.

I 110% agree with Conjur, for once.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: EKKC

Originally posted by: conjur
Settle down, Beavis. They're just catching up on what the Catholic Church did centuries ago.

But, in a way, you're agreeing with me but not far enough. They don't represent Islam anymore than Eric Rudolph represents Christianity.

im sure.
none of the radical groups represents everyone who share their beliefs.

do all pro-lifers want to bomb abortion clinics? no
do all environmentalists condone teh radicals' actions? no

BUT, and here's the big but, the amount of extremist islamists is growing in number with the stupid Iraq war, and that these people ARE WILLING TO DIE for their beliefs make them ultra dangerous. and everything they do just makes everyone in the world sick to their stomach. you kill one, there's 100 of them afterwards, and all 100 of them can take their own lives just to cause more civilian deaths. and that is what separates these sick fvcks than your normal extremist groups

I just bolded the key part of your response.

The answer to fighting these bastards is not more bombs and bullets. We *must* involve the Middle East's leaders into rooting out terrorists within their own countires. And we should start with Saudi Arabia, the Bush/Saudi business dealings be damned!

 

[conjur]

More attacks possible as terrorists still at large, warns expert
http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.184916368&par=0

Canberra, 7 July (AKI) - Terrorists that carried out the multiple blasts that hit London's transport system on Thursday morning could conduct further attacks in the near future unless they are captured, according to a leading al-Qaeda and terrorism expert, Rohan Gunaratna. "If the cell that perpetuated these attacks is not neutralised, there is likely to be another attack in the coming days," said Gunaratna, the head of Singapore's International Center for Political Violence and Terrorism Research in an interview with Adnkronos International (AKI).

The coordinated and simultaneous manner in which the attacks were conducted, and the fact that they resulted in multiple fatalities, clearly indicated that the group that carried out the blasts was "a cell affiliated or inspired by al-Qaeda," Gunaratna said.

Speaking from the Australian capital Canberra, Gunaratna, who has closely studied the international al-Qaeda terrorist network, believes that it is very likely that the group will strike again because a study of the March 2004 Madrid train bombings, which killed 191 people, revealed there were other attempts by the al-Qaeda linked group, to conduct further blasts, following the train bombings. Those attempts were foiled by the authorities in the Spanish capital.

"This is not a suicide attack, so the terrorists are still free," said Gunaratna. "Unless they are identified and neutralised, there could be another attack soon," he said.

Some unconfirmed reports however suggest that a suicide bomber was involved in the blast on the London bus.


The attack also showed that the cell that carried out the blasts that targeted the London underground system is "certainly a group based in Britain because of their perfect understanding of the British transport system," said Gunaratna referring to the six explosions in central London on Thursday - at King's Cross, Edgeware Road, Russell Square, Liverpool Street, Aldgate East and Moorgate underground stations, and at Tavistock Place, where a double decker bus exploded.


According to the terrorism expert, it has been known that terrorist groups would target the London underground for a long time and attacks this week were timed to coincide with the summit of the G8 leaders currently meeting in Britain.

Referring to a statement made on the internet by a European based militant group, the previously unknown, Group of the Secret Organisation of al-Qaeda in Europe, claiming responsibility for the attacks, Gunaratna said that it was clearly a false statement made by Islamists.

"The statement is not credible because it does not use al-Qaeda type language," said Gunaratna, however he was certain that the group responsible for the attacks was an al-Qaeda linked group.

Gunaratna also highlighted the fact that cities such as London are constantly under high alert.

"The British and European authorities are well informed because they know of other plans of attacks and have anticipated them," he said. "But they cannot prevent all the attacks as there are so many threats."

 

[mwtgg]

I couldn't read the whole thread, it's 6 pages for me, but I just saw this picture on CNN, and it's unreal.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: RichPLS
The terrorists are muslims, not towelies, Ekkc.

Still...TOWELIES?????? Heheheheh, that's both bad and funny at the same time.

 

[chrisms]

Security at the Olympics will be insane

 

[Sheepathon]

The dialogue between conjur and EKKC reminds me of an analogy in a west wing episode from a few years ago:
Islamic extremist is to Islam as KKK is to Christianity.

 

[EKKC]

Originally posted by: chrisms
Security at the Olympics will be insane

if the attacks were carried out 2 days ago. you think if London would still get it? :Q

 

[GoingUp]

does anyone have video of the bomb going off on the subway? someone was trying to upload it but it didnt work

 

[StormRider]

Originally posted by: Sheepathon
The dialogue between conjur and EKKC reminds me of an analogy in a west wing episode from a few years ago:
Islamic extremist is to Islam as KKK is to Christianity.

That's a horrible analogy. KKK's ideology is racist based -- not religious based. The KKK hates you because you are non-white -- not non-Christian. They killed and lynched plenty of blacks who were Southern Baptists.

The sniper in Washington DC was a muslim but I just thought he was a crazy guy who happened to be muslim. Same as the KKK. I think they are a bunch of racist hateful idiots who happened to be Christian.

But bin Laden's ideology is definitely religious based...

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: EKKC

Originally posted by: chrisms
Security at the Olympics will be insane

if the attacks were carried out 2 days ago. you think if London would still get it? :Q

It's in 6 1/2 years time, I think it would have been the same result.

 

[StormRider]

My sympathies to all the people in Britain. I remember how you stood besides us during 9/11 and your kindness and compassion gave me great comfort. May my words do the same. You are the truest of friends. I stand beside you -- always.

 

[GoingUp]

Originally posted by: StormRider
My sympathies to all the people in Britain. I remember how you stood besides us during 9/11 and your kindness and compassion gave me great comfort. May my words do the same. You are the truest of friends. I stand beside you -- always.

Amen.

Edit: After I watched the Queens guard play the Star Spangled Banner at the changing of the guard instead of their normal song, it was sealed that I would go anywhere and do anything to help out our British friends

 

[MrDingleDangle]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs

Originally posted by: StormRider
My sympathies to all the people in Britain. I remember how you stood besides us during 9/11 and your kindness and compassion gave me great comfort. May my words do the same. You are the truest of friends. I stand beside you -- always.

amen.

well said

 

[Dean]

My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone affected directly and indirectly by this senseless tragedy.

 

[spherrod]

Originally posted by: StormRider
My sympathies to all the people in Britain. I remember how you stood besides us during 9/11 and your kindness and compassion gave me great comfort. May my words do the same. You are the truest of friends. I stand beside you -- always.

That is one of the nicest posts I've ever seen - I'm sure everyone shares your feelings

 

[jalaram]

Originally posted by: StormRider
My sympathies to all the people in Britain. I remember how you stood besides us during 9/11 and your kindness and compassion gave me great comfort. May my words do the same. You are the truest of friends. I stand beside you -- always.

:thumbsup:

 

[mAdMaLuDaWg]

I was watching CNN during the lunch break and Nic Robertson dug up a magazine article or something from last year in Portugese where an extremist cleric said that AlQaeda in Europe is preparing for a huge attack in London :| :| :| :| ..... freakin bastages need to be put in the looney bin.

 

[conjur]

Can you imagine if they'd launched an attack during the middle of Live8?


No...don't even want to think about it.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
I was watching CNN during the lunch break and Nic Robertson dug up a magazine article or something from last year in Portugese where an extremist cleric said that AlQaeda in Europe is preparing for a huge attack in London :| :| :| :| ..... freakin bastages need to be put in the looney bin.

They don't need to be put in the looney bin, they need to be exterminated like the disease-infested cockroaches that they are.

 

[11thHour]

Originally posted by: conjur
Can you imagine if they'd launched an attack during the middle of Live8?


No...don't even want to think about it.

Very few things make my stomach curl like the thought of that.

 

[Atheus]

One of my family heard the bus explode, and a friend was on the subway - but not near a bomb. I didn't see/hear anything, but i heard sirens and saw some of the after effects. It's surreal. No-one seems to be panicing though.