WTF happened in London?! ***EDIT: multiple coordinated terrorist bomb attacks***

[conjur]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
sounds nasty, i heard on the radio as i was in york.....people saying about a bus that got blown up, and there was blood spattered all over the walls, and there was bodies in half and flesh and guts everywhere, not a pretty mental picture.

See my post above by Nelson Schwartz for Fortune.com.

 

[blackstealth007]

my sister is in london right now and takes the bus and subway. HOpe she is okay..

 

[neonerd]

Originally posted by: blackstealth007
my sister is in london right now and takes the bus and subway. HOpe she is okay..

hope she's alright

 

[conjur]

At least 45 dead - London Evening Standard
http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/19753070?source=PA&ct=5

More than 33 people were killed in a series of terrorist blasts in London today, police said.

Seven people died in the first blast in a Tube tunnel 100yds from Liverpool Street Station, 21 died in a blast at between King's Cross and Russell Square and five died at Edgware Road station in an explosion involving three trains.

There were also deaths in a bus blast in Upper Woburn Square but no figures are available, Deputy Assistant Commissioner Brian Paddick said.

Mr Paddick said no warnings were given and no claims of responsibility have been received by the police.

The co-ordinated blasts which happened over the space of 60 minutes in the rush hour were condemned by Tony Blair as "barbaric".

The terrorist onslaught was unleashed on the day that G8 world leaders met at Gleneagles.

A group calling itself the Secret Organization Group of al Qaida of Jihad Organization in Europe claimed responsibility for the attacks on an Islamic website.

The message said: "O nation of Islam and nation of Arabism: Rejoice for it is time to take revenge from the British Zionist Crusader Government in retaliation for the massacres Britain is committing in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"The heroic mujahidin have carried out a blessed raid in London. Britain is now burning with fear, terror, and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters."

The outrage echoed the al Qaida assault on Madrid commuters in 2004 in which almost 200 people died.

In the wake of the London attacks, survivors gave harrowing accounts of the carnage, describing piles of bodies on wrecked Tube trains and a bus which was torn to pieces along with its passengers.

The day of death and chaos prompted the Prime Minister to vow that the terrorists would never win.

"Whatever they do it is our determination that they will never succeed in destroying what we hold dear in this country and other civilised nations in the world," he said.

Mr Blair left the G8 gathering for London in the wake of the attacks, but said the summit would go on.

Before he left, the G8 leaders appeared side-by-side with Mr Blair to condemn the "barbaric" attacks.

As the scale of the attack became clear, ministers attending the regular Thursday cabinet meeting convened an emergency Cobra committee to deal with the crisis.

The terror attacks began at 8.51am when the bomb exploded in the tunnel near Liverpool Street station, killing seven.

At 8.56am, 21 people died in a blast in a tunnel between King's Cross and Russell Square.

At 9.17am, five people died when a blast ripped through a tunnel wall at Edgware Road station, damaging three trains.

Exactly 30 minutes later at 9.47am a blast tore the roof off the red number 30 double decker bus, packed with commuters forced above ground after the Tube network had been shut down.

Police have not yet released the number of fatalities but eyewitnesses spoke of carnage at the scene.

Two hours later paramedics were still rushing to the scene of the King's Cross blast deep underground on the Piccadilly line.

At Liverpool Street Station in the City, the wounded were treated by medics as they lay on the concourse.

It was the same at King's Cross while the Hilton Metropole on the Edgware Road was used as a makeshift treatment centre.

The bus blast occurred only a few hundred yards from Russell Square station.
London was thrown into chaos in the wake of the blasts with shops, banks and offices closing and thousands of people left stranded on the streets as mainline stations were shut and Tube and bus services cancelled.

Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair said there was evidence of explosives at at least one of the explosion sites.

Police said it was too early to say whether they had been caused by planted explosive devices, or whether they were the work of suicide bombers.

The blasts were initially blamed on a power surge but it soon became clear that it was a co-ordinated terrorist attack on the capital.

The G8 gathering had prompted fears of a terrorist spectacular.

Home Secretary Charles Clarke told a sombre House of Commons the blasts were "criminal and appalling acts".

Speaking at Gleneagles, US President George Bush vowed that the terrorists would be brought to justice.

The Queen spoke of her shock at the "dreadful events in London this morning".
Respect MP George Galloway said Londoners had "paid the price" for Tony Blair's decision to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

He called on the Prime Minister to withdraw the British troops from Iraq in order to remove people in the UK from "harm's way".

All London hospitals were put on major incident alert after the explosions. Neighbouring counties also sent emergency aid to London.

Metropolitan Police officers in Scotland for the G8 summit were urgently redeployed to London.

Commissioner Sir Ian Blair said: "There is no doubt it is a terrorist incident."

He said the bomb which ripped through the bus in Tavistock Square had exploded in the "back of the upper part of the bus".

He refused to confirm or deny reports that the explosion was the work of a suicide bomber.

An eyewitness described seeing dead bodies lying in the street after the bus bomb.

The security guard at the nearby London School of Tropical Hygiene and Medicine said the blast completely blew the bus apart.

Mr Ayobami Bello, 46, said he had visited a bank nearby and was only 30 metres from the bus when it exploded.

He said: "It was terrible. The bus went to pieces. There were so many bodies on the floor.

"The back was completely gone, it was blown off completely and a dead body was hanging out and there were dead bodies on the road, it was a horrible thing."

He said other bodies sat slumped in their bus seats, some with arms and legs missing.

He said: "I can't believe it, I can't even believe I survived it.

"There was panic and everyone was running for their lives. I saw a lady coming towards me soaked in blood. Everyone was in confusion."

Survivors of the Tube blasts described scenes of total chaos.

Simon Corvett, 26, from Oxford, was on the eastbound train leaving Edgware Road Tube station when the explosion happened.

He said: "All of sudden there was this massive huge bang. It was absolutely deafening and all the windows shattered.

"The glass did not actually fall out of the windows, it just cracked.
"The train came to a grinding halt, everyone fell off their seats."
Mr Corvett, who works in public relations, said the commuter train was absolutely packed.

"There were just loads of people screaming and the carriages filled with smoke," he said.

"You couldn't really breathe and you couldn't see what was happening. The driver came on the Tannoy and said 'We have got a problem, don't panic'."

Mr Corvett, whose face was covered in soot, joined other passengers to force open the train doors with a fire extinguisher.

He said the carriage on the other track was destroyed.

"You could see the carriage opposite was completely gutted," he added.
"There were some people in real trouble."

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Soultrape

In relation to Intentionally bombed Civilians, The way in Afganistan and Iraq were brutal, Tens of thousands of innocent civilians were killed due to Coalition bombardments and attacks. You can argue that they were intentional or not (and I'm sure some were intentional, especially after various tormentation of Iraqi soldiers/Citizens), but the fact is, Civilians were killed, Casualties of War? I find it hard to believe a commander than drops a 100 Ton bomb on a densely populated area does not realize the risk.

The jihadis are gluttons for punishment. By bombing US and British civilians, the US and Britain is more likely to drop bombs on arab cities now. And we have more bombs than the terrorists. We'd wipe out their entire population before they brought us to our knees.

What they don't understand is that the only thing that stops us from firebombing cities like we did in WW2 is public opinion... and terror attacks like this surely give us a bad opinion of middle-easterners. Like it or not that's what happens.

agreed

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: EKKC
i came to work 2 hours late, and im going to leave at least an hour late tonight. you never know what those crazy towelies may be planning next. i sure hope it aint nyc subway but im taking every last bit of useless precaution that makes me 'feel' safer

You're an ignorant moron.

Have a nice day.

in all honesty, thats all i can think about them at this point too. its the picture they paint for us.

 

[RichPLS]

The terrorists are muslims, not towelies, Ekkc.

 

[cerebusPu]

we need that cell phone video guys....put up a http link.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: RichPLS
The terrorists are muslims, not towelies, Ekkc.

They're not even Muslims. They don't represent the Muslim faith. No more so than someone like Eric Rudolph represents Christianity.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: RichPLS
The terrorists are muslims, not towelies, Ekkc.

They're not even Muslims. They don't represent the Muslim faith. No more so than someone like Eric Rudolph represents Christianity.

Many Muslims sympathise with their cause. Here in New Jersey, many Muslims in North Jersey cheered when 9/11 happened. While it's true that you can't blame ALL muslims for this, the Muslim terrorists and Muslim supporters sure give their religion a bad name and ruin it for all their fellow Muslims.

 

[azazyel]

I just want to thank those who actually are helping gather information here. Scary time and my thoughts and prayers go with those in the UK.

 

[blackstealth007]

my sister is okay. but she said she heard them go off. she was only a few minutes away. on a double decker bus.

 

[Noirish]

might as well make it sticky on top.

 

[EKKC]

Originally posted by: Bigsm00th

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: EKKC
i came to work 2 hours late, and im going to leave at least an hour late tonight. you never know what those crazy towelies may be planning next. i sure hope it aint nyc subway but im taking every last bit of useless precaution that makes me 'feel' safer

You're an ignorant moron.

Have a nice day.

in all honesty, thats all i can think about them at this point too. its the picture they paint for us.

i actually wrote something much worse before settling on that word. yes i know all muslims are not terrorists but most terrorists attacking the western world are muslims. you cant deny that. im sorry for the generalization and stereotyping, but admit it, everybody's done their share of generalizing and stereotyping. if you said you're not, you're a fvcking liar. lying to yourself is worse than generalzing.

 

[11thHour]

I blame bush for this 100%. Ever since he crashed his bike yesterday, he's had a crazed look of revenge in his eyes.

 

[EKKC]

Originally posted by: 11thHour
I blame bush for this 100%. Ever since he crashed his bike yesterday, he's had a crazed look of revenge in his eyes.

bike made in iraq? :Q

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: RichPLS
The terrorists are muslims, not towelies, Ekkc.

They're not even Muslims. They don't represent the Muslim faith. No more so than someone like Eric Rudolph represents Christianity.

Many Muslims sympathise with their cause. Here in New Jersey, many Muslims in North Jersey cheered when 9/11 happened. While it's true that you can't blame ALL muslims for this, the Muslim terrorists and Muslim supporters sure give their religion a bad name and ruin it for all their fellow Muslims.

The same can be said of any extremist faction of a religious group. There are plenty of idiot Christians out there giving Christianity a bad name. At least they're not involved in acts of mass death like these terrorists, though.

 

[0roo0roo]

not all ideologies are equal let alone valid. some are simply worse then others. unless of course you believe in pc nonsense.

 

[UNCjigga]

Holy CRAP, family FINALLY got in touch with cousin living in London. Apparently she lives right near one of the stations that was bombed and was in the tube when it happened, but her train was not the one bombed. Her train came to an abrupt stop, and then emergency crews + police told them they had to evacuate. She was far enough away by then that she didn't hear the blast and didn't even know what was going on until she got to the surface and saw everyone in shock/horror/crying etc. She walked to work but didn't realize how close a brush with terror she had until after the news has been trickling in. She couldn't use the phone to dial out until like 1:30 her time...networks are all jammed and cell networks even worse. I'm getting all of this second-hand from my sister and father--haven't been able to talk to her yet but I'm going to try Skyping her this afternoon.

 

[azazyel]

UNCjigga - glad to here it!!!


Side note:

Muslim leaders condemn bloody attacks on London
7/7/2005 12:01:00 PM GMT


Muslim leaders strongly denounced on Thursday bloody attacks that shook London in the morning, raising fears that Muslim communities all over the world could now fall prey to vigilante attacks.

The attacks would make the Muslim community less safe, Muslim Association of Britain president Ahmed Sheikh said, adding that women wearing Hijab, or Islamic headscarves might be in particular danger.

He moreover, warned all Muslims to be especially vigilant.

Ahmed Versi Muslim News editor added that one of London's biggest Muslim areas, around Aldgate, had been targeted.

He also warned that the good relationship the Muslims had finally reached with the government and society is now threatened.

"The person who did this was targeting along with wider British society the Muslim community, ruining the good relationship we have."

Mr. Ahmed, moreover, called on the police to consider extra protection for mosques and Islamic schools, fearing that Muslims could be targeted with attacks on those places.

He also urged Muslims, particularly women in headscarves, to avoid unnecessary journeys.

"It is scary. A tiny element of the community will make use of this. It is a blow to us, to all of us. It is a moment of sadness and we send our condolences to the families of those who have been killed or injured."

Sir Iqbal Sacranie of the Muslim Council of Britain condemned the attacks.
"We are simply appalled and want to express our deepest condolences to the families.

"These terrorists, these evil people want to demoralize us as a nation and divide us.

"All of must unite in helping the police to hunt these murderers down."
"There may well be elements who want to exploit this tragedy and incite hatred".

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=8930

 

[EKKC]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: RichPLS
The terrorists are muslims, not towelies, Ekkc.

They're not even Muslims. They don't represent the Muslim faith. No more so than someone like Eric Rudolph represents Christianity.

Many Muslims sympathise with their cause. Here in New Jersey, many Muslims in North Jersey cheered when 9/11 happened. While it's true that you can't blame ALL muslims for this, the Muslim terrorists and Muslim supporters sure give their religion a bad name and ruin it for all their fellow Muslims.

The same can be said of any extremist faction of a religious group. There are plenty of idiot Christians out there giving Christianity a bad name. At least they're not involved in acts of mass death like these terrorists, though.

do i see chinese people bombing madrid or any other places? no. we chinese only care about $$$
do i see radical japs releasing sarin in LA subways? no. they target their own government
do i see chechnya rebels taking hostages in a, say, Polish school? no. they target russians
do i see stupid christians bombing other countries? no.
do i see pro-lifers, animal loving freaks and environmental freaks carrying out mass-murder? no.
do i see any ANY groups besides islamists going around videotaping the execution and decapitation of hostages? HELL NO
do i see ANY groups besides islamists saying they want to cause maximum casualties amongs innocent civilians? HELL NO

do i see radical islamists killing their own people for their stupid cause? yes
do i see radical islamists mass murdering civilians in new york, bali, middle east, madrid, london? yes.
do i see radical islamists video taping the execution of americans, westerners, asians, and their very own muslims they brand as traitors? YES
do i see radical islamists making claims that they want to cause maximum casualties amongst american/british civilians? HELL YES

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: UNCjigga
Holy CRAP, family FINALLY got in touch with cousin living in London. Apparently she lives right near one of the stations that was bombed and was in the tube when it happened, but her train was not the one bombed. Her train came to an abrupt stop, and then emergency crews + police told them they had to evacuate. She was far enough away by then that she didn't hear the blast and didn't even know what was going on until she got to the surface and saw everyone in shock/horror/crying etc. She walked to work but didn't realize how close a brush with terror she had until after the news has been trickling in. She couldn't use the phone to dial out until like 1:30 her time...networks are all jammed and cell networks even worse. I'm getting all of this second-hand from my sister and father--haven't been able to talk to her yet but I'm going to try Skyping her this afternoon.

Glad she's fine!

The cell network was shutdown as the terrorists use cell phones as detonators.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: EKKC

Originally posted by: conjur
The same can be said of any extremist faction of a religious group. There are plenty of idiot Christians out there giving Christianity a bad name. At least they're not involved in acts of mass death like these terrorists, though.

do i see chinese people bombing madrid or any other places? no. we chinese only care about $$$
do i see radical japs releasing sarin in LA subways? no. they target their own government
do i see chechnya rebels taking hostages in a, say, Polish school? no. they target russians
do i see stupid christians bombing other countries? no.
do i see pro-lifers, animal loving freaks and environmental freaks carrying out mass-murder? no.
do i see any ANY groups besides islamists going around videotaping the execution and decapitation of hostages? HELL NO
do i see ANY groups besides islamists saying they want to cause maximum casualties amongs innocent civilians? HELL NO

do i see radical islamists killing their own people for their stupid cause? yes
do i see radical islamists mass murdering civilians in new york, bali, middle east, madrid, london? yes.
do i see radical islamists video taping the execution of americans, westerners, asians, and their very own muslims they brand as traitors? YES
do i see radical islamists making claims that they want to cause maximum casualties amongst american/british civilians? HELL YES

Settle down, Beavis. They're just catching up on what the Catholic Church did centuries ago.

But, in a way, you're agreeing with me but not far enough. They don't represent Islam anymore than Eric Rudolph represents Christianity.

 

[spacejamz]

Originally posted by: EKKC

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: RichPLS
The terrorists are muslims, not towelies, Ekkc.

They're not even Muslims. They don't represent the Muslim faith. No more so than someone like Eric Rudolph represents Christianity.

Many Muslims sympathise with their cause. Here in New Jersey, many Muslims in North Jersey cheered when 9/11 happened. While it's true that you can't blame ALL muslims for this, the Muslim terrorists and Muslim supporters sure give their religion a bad name and ruin it for all their fellow Muslims.

The same can be said of any extremist faction of a religious group. There are plenty of idiot Christians out there giving Christianity a bad name. At least they're not involved in acts of mass death like these terrorists, though.

do i see chinese people bombing madrid or any other places? no. we chinese only care about $$$
do i see radical japs releasing sarin in LA subways? no. they target their own government
do i see chechnya rebels taking hostages in a, say, Polish school? no. they target russians
do i see stupid christians bombing other countries? no.
do i see pro-lifers, animal loving freaks and environmental freaks carrying out mass-murder? no.
do i see any ANY groups besides islamists going around videotaping the execution and decapitation of hostages? HELL NO
do i see ANY groups besides islamists saying they want to cause maximum casualties amongs innocent civilians? HELL NO

do i see radical islamists killing their own people for their stupid cause? yes
do i see radical islamists mass murdering civilians in new york, bali, middle east, madrid, london? yes.
do i see radical islamists video taping the execution of americans, westerners, asians, and their very own muslims they brand as traitors? YES
do i see radical islamists making claims that they want to cause maximum casualties amongst american/british civilians? HELL YES

so are you saying, "if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck..."???

 

[Chaotic42]

I just want to add in that my thoughts and prayers are with our English friends and those affected by this.

I don't really know what else to say.