WTF happened in London?! ***EDIT: multiple coordinated terrorist bomb attacks***

[glugglug]

Originally posted by: halleberries
all i'm saying dude, is where's the money shot? or is this another stupid coordinated event to amass support for the war on terror...

I agree with this theory. Just didn't want to be the first one to suggest it.

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: Baked
OMG, they strike again. I'm gonna stay home and take vacation. The terrorists might strike US next.

The terrorists just gave US and UK an excuse to invade North Korea, even though NK had nothing to do w/ the bombings.

you are baked aren't you?:laugh:

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: cbcjs
this Parallels with WWII - England was attacked first and then US joined in after we were attacked.
Now, US first on 9/11 and then England on 7-7.
With both sides having been attacked - War on Terror will now escalate to a whole another level...Life as we know it
will never be the same....

You are WAYYYY overblowing the issue.

While it's a shame that 40+ people died, it's not an Earth shattering event like you make it sound. By comparison, the tsunami that occurred last year killed 200,000+. The Civil War killed 600,000+ people. And 20,000,000+ died in Russia during Stalin's rule. The world can deal with tragedies. Get a grip.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: werk

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Amused
I have a fscking clue, Conjur. You, unfortunately, do not.

Well, you've just proven you don't

We are in the Middle East because that's where the terrorists are.

No, there were NO terrorists in Iraq before we invaded. The terrorists were in the places I mentioned earlier. Why didn't we invade those countries if this was about fighting terrorists? You have sucked up the propaganda and swallowed it whole, never once questioning the validity of the BS spewed from the Propagandist's mouth and his PNAC henchmen.

No, the Iraq war was about one thing, and one thing only (and the WMDs were just the falsified excuse to get us in there):

Spreading the new colonialism: capitalism.

The US foreign policy is repeating the mistakes of 1980s actions in Central America.

Wake up and stop watching FAUX News and read some books on the history of our foreign policy and how it's purpose has been to bolster American corporations since the American market is a saturated beast. Why do think this administration is vilifying Chavez in Venezuela?

No, you've just proven you have no reading comprehension.

I said we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan because they were the only two ME countries we had legal cause to invade.

And since we did, all the terrorist orgs have been focusing on Iraq and throwing their best and brightest at us like so much cannon fodder.

Once Iraq and Afghanistan are democratized, the rest of the region will see their success and follow. Hell, Lebanon already is taking the first steps by kicking out Syria. Libya caved and gave up their weapons.

It's ALREADY starting to work.

Democratizing the ME is a GOOD IDEA. Doing so will stop the religious fanaticism in the region.

You spew this anti-corporate conspiracy rhetoric like a sheep. Too bad anyone who can think for themselves sees right through it.

Stop it. Go argue somewhere else.

Thank you. Wrong topic, wrong forum :|

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: glugglug

Originally posted by: halleberries
all i'm saying dude, is where's the money shot? or is this another stupid coordinated event to amass support for the war on terror...

I agree with this theory. Just didn't want to be the first one to suggest it.

TAKE IT TO P&N YOU IDIOTS! this is not the time to start such stupid and ignorant on all level discussion when people are dead and wounded.....stop posting....

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Soultrape

They hate our freedoms, and we are losing our freedoms to "protection" from them... It's exactly what they want...

Did anyone ever stop for a minute and think whether the US/UK Foriegn policies are somehow related to the creation of these attacks?.

Yes, I can see it, but most people are too dumb to see it. They think that we're going to win a "crusade on terror" by clamping down on even more people. In reality, this only makes the problem worse.

 

[maziwanka]

eagerly awaiting further info.....

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: maziwanka
eagerly awaiting further info.....

same here...BBC just showed a press conference with police reps....the anti terror branch of the UK is in full swing..Damn this always makes me wish i went to work for the CIA instead of my regular job.....

 

[spherrod]

Originally posted by: Son of a N00b

Originally posted by: maziwanka
eagerly awaiting further info.....

same here...BBC just showed a press conference with police reps....the anti terror branch of the UK is in full swing..Damn this always makes me wish i went to work for the CIA instead of my regular job.....

they seemed to have cleared up that sniper story

 

[aphex]

Whew, glad they schedueled our visit to middle temple and westminster for tommorow and not today, although it seems that we won't be going now nevertheless.

Crazyness, i was just in 3 of those tube stops no less than 5 days ago

 

[conjur]

The London Blasts: A Firsthand Account
A FORTUNE reports finds himself on a bus right behind the one that was bombed today in the U.K.
By Nelson Schwartz
Thursday, July 7, 2005
http://www.fortune.com/fortune/articles/0,15114,1080260,00.html

Even before I heard and felt the blast, something seemed not right in London. I was heading back from my office on Waterloo Bridge to my home in Hampstead after pulling an all-nighter. When I walked out on to the bridge to catch a cab at 9:30 am, I saw one emergency vehicle after another go by, lights flashing and sirens wailing. I figured it was a security alert or maybe had something to do with yesterday's Olympic win. There wasn't a single free cab, though, and my usual bus, the 168, wasn't anywhere in sight, even as other buses came and went.

Finally the 168 arrived and I got on. It was more crowded than usual, but it was the normal mix of commuters and the kind of eccentrics who seem to ride the bus in every city. People seemed more talkative than usual for London, though, and I overheard that tube stations were closed and there was a power surge in the Underground. The London Tube is famously unreliable, and I thought, great, another breakdown. Finally a seat opened up, and I sat down next to a young woman with brown hair and glasses. I kept hearing more and more emergency vehicles, though, so I called a reporter friend and asked what was up. She told me the Tube was shut and there were power surges east to west.

A couple of seconds before 10 am, between Euston and Russell Square, I turned the woman next to me, and said is the tube really closed? As she answered, we heard a distinct, deep echoing BOOM. The bus shook ever so slightly. There was silence, followed by muted shouts on the bus, as people asked 'What was that?' Most of the passengers rushed to the exits and the doors opened but it was a typical London rush, fairly orderly and no pushing or shoving. I immediately thought it was a bomb after having lived through 9/11 in Manhattan, and having heard similar booms during the very brief time I was in Iraq. But then I thought, maybe it was a transformer blowing out from the power surges, and post-9/11 urban anxiety was getting the better of me.

I kept calm and stayed on the bus. Where was I going to go, I thought. The bus was moving forward, and even if it were terrorism, they weren't going to attack multiple targets. A Madrid-like attack hadn't yet crossed my mind. My bus crept forward for about three minutes and it was at that point I looked through the windshield and saw what looked like a double-decker bus in Tavistock Square, except the front was crumpled and the top was sheared off. I honestly couldn't process what I was seeing for a moment, and then the familiar images from Israel registered in my brain and I realized it was a blown-up bus. Through trees, I could see splattered blood on the cement walls of the building closest to the front of the bus.

I stayed on my bus, which kept moving, first saying a prayer, and then honestly not knowing what to do. Then as we got closer, I felt as a reporter, I should check it out. I felt ghoulish and voyeuristic but got off the bus. I walked towards the wreckage, getting no closer than 100 yards. There was no noise or smoke coming from the bus, just silence. The only sounds were sirens and the shouts of police telling people to get back, and asking "is anyone a doctor here?" I showed my press card but was told there would be a press conference later by a rather polite emergency services officer, who then went on yelling for people to move back. One man said he was a doctor, and was let through. I started heading back, north towards home, away from the scene. I called my Mom and told her I was ok, but word hadn't yet reached New York.

It reminded me somewhat of Sept. 11th in NY. On that day I was home on the Upper West Side, still in bed, far from downtown Manhattan when the first plane struck the North Tower. But I remember the nervousness, the misplaced laughter, the numb looks of people on the street that day. Then it was people streaming north in Manhattan. It was the same phenomenon in London, but on a much smaller scale. Buses continued to run, taxis were operating, and after a half-hour walk the streets seemed normal, apart from the occasional sirens. It was at that point I felt a real shudder of fear. I thanked God again, and kept walking.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Soultrape

In relation to Intentionally bombed Civilians, The way in Afganistan and Iraq were brutal, Tens of thousands of innocent civilians were killed due to Coalition bombardments and attacks. You can argue that they were intentional or not (and I'm sure some were intentional, especially after various tormentation of Iraqi soldiers/Citizens), but the fact is, Civilians were killed, Casualties of War? I find it hard to believe a commander than drops a 100 Ton bomb on a densely populated area does not realize the risk.

The jihadis are gluttons for punishment. By bombing US and British civilians, the US and Britain is more likely to drop bombs on arab cities now. And we have more bombs than the terrorists. We'd wipe out their entire population before they brought us to our knees.

What they don't understand is that the only thing that stops us from firebombing cities like we did in WW2 is public opinion... and terror attacks like this surely give us a bad opinion of middle-easterners. Like it or not that's what happens.

 

[RichPLS]

Good new for Bush & Blair

Now they have another reason to invade another country even though they may or may not have anything to do with the actual bombings.


After we invade and tens of thousands are dead, and their country is in ruins, we can always say their leader was evil, or we want to give the people freedom and democracy.

 

[Hammer]

Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
it was al-queda...at least for what we know now...

from the BBC website

UK

A statement in which al-Qaeda purportedly claims responsibility for the London terror blasts has been posted on a website.

Osama bin Laden's movement is blamed for the 11 September attacks and several other terror strikes. Paul Wood reports.

that doesn't mean anything until they investigate. i bet the IRA, Islamic Jihad, and Hamas have all claimed responsibility as well.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: glugglug

Originally posted by: halleberries
all i'm saying dude, is where's the money shot? or is this another stupid coordinated event to amass support for the war on terror...

I agree with this theory. Just didn't want to be the first one to suggest it.

Please take your head for a sh1t.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: DaWhim
damn.....I would be cheering with that happened in France.

Why? What did France do to you? And what did France do to infuriate the terrorists? You're thinking illogically. In reality, France is much more likely to not get bombed because their foreign policy doesn't enrage other countries.

 

[EKKC]

i came to work 2 hours late, and im going to leave at least an hour late tonight. you never know what those crazy towelies may be planning next. i sure hope it aint nyc subway but im taking every last bit of useless precaution that makes me 'feel' safer

 

[conjur]

Police statement:

7 dead at Aldgate
21 at Russell Square/King's Cross (tube)
5 at Edgware Road
unknown number from bus at Tavistock Square

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: biostud

I think that he refers to the fact that the socialists already before the spanish elections and before the bomb attacks, said that if they got hold of the power they would withdraw spanish military from Iraq. So the bombs didn't change anything about their politics.

Just as these bombs will not change UK policy.

Wrong.

The bombs certainly did change Spain's politics. The bombings in Spain were timed right before their elections, and after the bombings support for the party that opposed action in Iraq rose greatly, ensuring the election.

 

[So]

Wow. I just wandered into the /. thread on this. Immediately devolved into a retard fest. Looks like it's only marginally better here.

If you wanna rant about bush/blair/the iraq war/france/illegal immigrants, please STFU and take it to P&N. this should be about WHAT happened, not who to blame. :|

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Landroval

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: iamme

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: pepo

Originally posted by: DaWhim
damn.....I would be cheering with that happened in France.

WTF dude?

DaWhim = Republican?

no, idiot is a better description. wishing death on innocent people isn't a political affiliation.

I'm just wondering, because all my republican friends hates france with a passion, it's something they would say.

Anyone who says crap like that needs a good beating

Of course Phokup has "republican" friends that would say something like that. His "republican" friends also eat babies and curse at brown people. Of couse, that doesn't say much for Phokup that these people are his *friends* now does it.

 

[djheater]

Originally posted by: EKKC
i came to work 2 hours late, and im going to leave at least an hour late tonight. you never know what those crazy towelies may be planning next. i sure hope it aint nyc subway but im taking every last bit of useless precaution that makes me 'feel' safer

You're an ignorant moron.

Have a nice day.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

sounds nasty, i heard on the radio as i was in york.....people saying about a bus that got blown up, and there was blood spattered all over the walls, and there was bodies in half and flesh and guts everywhere, not a pretty mental picture.

 

[RichPLS]

Doesn't matter who it is, as long as you can blame them.
Maybe they should look for WMD in those countries. They might ask Kim whatshisname in Korea to see a decent barber too. I mean really......

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: Jnetty99

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
What's Bush doing, running for his life again, or falling off his tricycle? :roll:

I don't see a point on why we have to bash bush at this moment...

Because they are as obsessed with Bush as the tinfoil hat wearers were with Clinton. Every single event in their lives is seen through the prism of their hatred of Bush.

QFT