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SampSon

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The best part about this is that there are people that still support this moron and his administration.
 

linkgoron

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Err, can they search the DBs for users only in the US? I mean Google is used all around the world.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: SampSon
The best part about this is that there are people that still support this moron and his administration.

yeap.

i did for a long time. UNTIL the lies and crap like this. At first i was for the war. figured all the flack was BS and that Bush wouldnt lie to go to war.

oops. guess i was wrong eh?

sigh regret my vote for the bastard.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: Gcode061
Bush's plan

step !. take over google

step 2.

step 3. Profit


Brilliant i tell you brilliant!!

Government's current plan appears to be:

1) Wipe ass with constitution

2) Further weaken national unity

3) ????

4) Violent revolution?
that's quite extreme
Not really....... It's happened before. Not all that long ago in the scheme of things, too.
 

flexy

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the point is...GWB and the people voting and defending those actions (YES, they exist !) - come off as the biggest PRO-American, PRO-democracy persons...arguing like 'if it is FOR your country and against the terrorists/communists etc...then why should he NOT tap our wires"......but totally ignoring the fact that what they support is actually EXACTLY that:

What once was the difference between a "free country" and "communism" or "dictatorship" or whatsoever.

Now you do NOT have to go to China to see the gvt spying on citizens or make/break laws how they like it, checking google-records or whatsoever. Its done RIGHT HERE in this country. So..what IS ACTUALLY getting "protected" ?
A slowly growing semi-communism-similiar governement with more and more GROWING powers of the gvt ?

HEY yeah, thats ALWAYS what i wanted to have coming to America ;)



 

Wnh5001

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I haven't read these couple pages but it is important for national security, a good alternattive would be to only give the govt searches related to anything bout bombs or any harmful activties. can teh govt' just hack google? lol..
 

flexy

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let Google give 'em whatever they want if it means we stop something really bad from happening!

My .02!

the point is that the term "really bad" is BENDABLE and it has always been like that throughout history.

May it be "how to make bombs" now...it might be "porn" later or "i am a democrat" or "i hate this country" or "i i am a christ" or "i am a jew" or WHATEVER.

Most governments/cultures/societies had their oown views on what is BAD and usually did not hesitate to surpress (or kill) the ones which they considered "doing something BAD".

If they get the right to do google-searches then it would be a great playground for every future gvt basically to search and SPY and censor or do whatever they want with their citizens.

As an example...THIS conversation <---- How about the idea that in a few years of THIS development continuing it would be DANGEROUS to write thoughjts like this ?

The idea is the SAME...because "building a bomb" is "anti gvt, anti usa"....so would be the MAJORITY of this conversation.

BASICALLY many people here COULD be potential terrorists.

I am not even kidding...its just the above thoughts put into an extreme.

BE CAREFUL what GVT you VOTE for otherwise ONE DAY some people might get a big suprise ;)
 

OdiN

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Want to keep kids off of porn sites? Require all porn sites to use a new web extension: xxx or adt. So if it's porn it has to be www.porn.xxx or www.porn.adt or something.

Summarily block *.xxx/*.adt if you don't want your kids on it. Problem solved.

If the kid bypasses it and you find out he's been on there. Ban him from the computer and smack him a good one.

/thread
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Wnh5001
I haven't read these couple pages but it is important for national security, a good alternattive would be to only give the govt searches related to anything bout bombs or any harmful activties. can teh govt' just hack google? lol..

yeah it might be a good idea to read the last couple pages. that way you do not look like a complete fvckign tool.

this is not about national security. its about PORN.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Want to keep kids off of porn sites? Require all porn sites to use a new web extension: xxx or adt. So if it's porn it has to be www.porn.xxx or www.porn.adt or something.

Summarily block *.xxx/*.adt if you don't want your kids on it. Problem solved.

If the kid bypasses it and you find out he's been on there. Ban him from the computer and smack him a good one.

/thread

yeah that would force kids to get porn the old fashioned way!

when i was younger the internet was not as popular. but heck i still had box's full of magazines and movies. if kids want porn they are going to get it.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: OdiN
Want to keep kids off of porn sites? Require all porn sites to use a new web extension: xxx or adt. So if it's porn it has to be www.porn.xxx or www.porn.adt or something.

Summarily block *.xxx/*.adt if you don't want your kids on it. Problem solved.

If the kid bypasses it and you find out he's been on there. Ban him from the computer and smack him a good one.

/thread

yeah that would force kids to get porn the old fashioned way!

when i was younger the internet was not as popular. but heck i still had box's full of magazines and movies. if kids want porn they are going to get it.

Where'd you get your mags?
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: OdiN
Want to keep kids off of porn sites? Require all porn sites to use a new web extension: xxx or adt. So if it's porn it has to be www.porn.xxx or www.porn.adt or something.

Summarily block *.xxx/*.adt if you don't want your kids on it. Problem solved.

If the kid bypasses it and you find out he's been on there. Ban him from the computer and smack him a good one.

/thread

yeah that would force kids to get porn the old fashioned way!

when i was younger the internet was not as popular. but heck i still had box's full of magazines and movies. if kids want porn they are going to get it.

Where'd you get your mags?


cousins, friends who had big brothers, the garbage (dumpster diving FTW!) etc. heck there was a porn shop near where i lived that would give away the stuff they were about to throw out.

but i always had something to occupy my time...
 

yhelothar

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: sourceninja
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Czar
quick.. everyone search for bomb making in google, lets make the results even more useless

you didnt read the article did you? THIS IS NOT ABOUT SECURITY! they are after child porn.

sheesh RTFA!

perhaps you should RTFA, it is NOT about child porn, but about how easily available regular old god fearin' porn is to minors.


So what do the search results prove? That you can go to images.google.com turn of safe search and get porn? I could prove that, wait I just proved that right now without logs from google. mmm boobies.

I'm sure they make some rediculous correlation about how often porn is sought out and displayed on computer screen, along with how many children there are in the US, to come up with some statistic that sates that 145% of children have witnessed an average of 28 hours of accidental porn viewing per day.

lol that's so true. That's exactly what they do, make up bullshit studies to fit their agendas.
 

Syringer

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So this is directly a bad thing, how? Forget about precedents, implications or whatever, how does this one action affect anyone negatively in anyway?
 

mwtgg

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: sourceninja
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Czar
quick.. everyone search for bomb making in google, lets make the results even more useless

you didnt read the article did you? THIS IS NOT ABOUT SECURITY! they are after child porn.

sheesh RTFA!

perhaps you should RTFA, it is NOT about child porn, but about how easily available regular old god fearin' porn is to minors.


So what do the search results prove? That you can go to images.google.com turn of safe search and get porn? I could prove that, wait I just proved that right now without logs from google. mmm boobies.

I'm sure they make some rediculous correlation about how often porn is sought out and displayed on computer screen, along with how many children there are in the US, to come up with some statistic that sates that 145% of children have witnessed an average of 28 hours of accidental porn viewing per day.

Damnit, you just told them, now they don't even have to bother faking stats... errr doing their own research.
 

Vette73

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UPDATE

As some say the article says there were other search engines that gave up this information without a fight. Being the 2 biggest are Google and yahoo I wanted to know if yahoo was given a subpoena and if so are they fighting it or juts gave information out. Well Mary Osako of yahoo wrote me and basically said they, yahoo, do NOT believe it was a privacy issue and did not fight it. She also said yahoo was ?rigorous defenders of our users' privacy?.This is very disconcerting as if they give this information up so easily will they do so the next time this administration asks for more info? I will ask some more questions and also try to get a copy of what they gave to the Department of Justice.

We are rigorous defenders of our users' privacy. We did not provide any
personal information in response to the Department of Justice's
subpoena. In our opinion, this is not a privacy issue.