wow, the emigrants in Calais screwing with truckers is just insane.

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brycejones

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How the hell can they vet them with no documentation or government?

Right. You can't. Obama is blowing smoke and mirrors.

You're right they spend 12-24 months doing nothing they just accept the word of the refugee without question.

Do you really think that is how it works?
 

OutHouse

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I kept rooting for those trucks to open up and for 100 goons with baseball bats to spill out of the back of each one.


There is something unbelievably ironic though about listening to a Frenchman yelling at other people to go home and fight.

I take it you have never heard French or Hungarian spoken? hint, the guy in the video was not speaking French.
 

flexy

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I didn't have sound on, but I guessed "East European", Hungarian, Polish etc.

The Polishman or Hungarian IN FRANCE cursing towards the Syrians....."that they should go back" - sure sort-of ironic...
 

CZroe

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I didn't have sound on, but I guessed "East European", Hungarian, Polish etc.

The Polishman or Hungarian IN FRANCE cursing towards the Syrians....."that they should go back" - sure sort-of ironic...

He's an OTR trucker. I'm sure he goes home and many other places all the time... legally. I got the impression that he drives all over the EU through various countries like an OTR trucker in the USA drives through states with a coast-to-coast delivery.

Either way, there's a big difference between what he's doing and what they are doing.
 
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I liked how so many of them were constantly looking at the rear trailer doors...hoping to find one unlocked.
 

Subyman

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Wow, so now we consider refugees to be cowards. I think I'm living in a mad world right now. I am seeing firsthand how a populace's opinion can be easily swayed against an entire group of people. So a trucker gets held up in traffic for a few hours? These people don't have a home and were forced to leave the country they were born in, but screw them because I was inconvenienced?
 

OutHouse

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Wow, so now we consider refugees to be cowards. I think I'm living in a mad world right now. I am seeing firsthand how a populace's opinion can be easily swayed against an entire group of people. So a trucker gets held up in traffic for a few hours? These people don't have a home and were forced to leave the country they were born in, but screw them because I was inconvenienced?

i know its a complicated issue for you to understand but could you put out a little effort and try to understand the issue? is that too much to ask or are you just a simpleton?
 

glenn1

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Wow, so now we consider refugees to be cowards. I think I'm living in a mad world right now. I am seeing firsthand how a populace's opinion can be easily swayed against an entire group of people. So a trucker gets held up in traffic for a few hours? These people don't have a home and were forced to leave the country they were born in, but screw them because I was inconvenienced?

This has nothing to do with inconveniencing others; I don't give a damn what's happening to some trucker wherever he may be. If you're too chickenshit to even fight for your own homeland and run away than you are a fucking coward. One of the primary reasons the U.S. has a Second Amendment is to allow the citizenry to repel armed invaders, people like you would just flee and leave the country to the fucking Visogoths rather than fight.
 

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Wow, so now we consider refugees to be cowards. I think I'm living in a mad world right now. I am seeing firsthand how a populace's opinion can be easily swayed against an entire group of people. So a trucker gets held up in traffic for a few hours? These people don't have a home and were forced to leave the country they were born in, but screw them because I was inconvenienced?

Young strong men were forced to leave the country they were born in but not the women and children? They are nearly all young strong healthy men. Are the women staying home with the children and defending the homeland? How is this being rationalized?

this lady's story takes the cake:
Asylum camp was not suitable for humans, says Syrian "Aisha" about the reception in Sjøvegan in Troms
"She says that she knows many Syrians who have traveled to Norway to seek asylum even if they come from the UAE, Saudi Arabia or Kuwait. All together peaceful and prosperous society. As she herself has many of them have now returned from Norway.

- But why did she really the cold country far north?
- I came to Norway to be Norwegian. To get another passport. You know, with Syrian passports are not so easy to travel these days. Everyone wants to get a European passport, not only myself.
 
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Darwin333

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We already know they're fucking cowards or they'd be fighting for themselves in their own country. You get hurt fighting ISIS or Assad then we'll talk about giving you refugee status, but not before.

What if they believe that neither side is worth fighting for?
 

Ham n' Eggs

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What if they believe that neither side is worth fighting for?
If safety from immediate danger is the concern, then travel to the nearest non-warring country. We all know that's not what is happening. Europeans are starting to wake up to this fact.
 

Darwin333

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If safety from immediate danger is the concern, then travel to the nearest non-warring country. We all know that's not what is happening. Europeans are starting to wake up to this fact.

If I lived in a shithole like Syria I would want to move to a better country too and not just one that is "non-warring".
 

glenn1

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If I lived in a shithole like Syria I would want to move to a better country too and not just one that is "non-warring".

Or if they weren't cowards, they could stay and make their own country a better one. That they're leaving rather than doing the hard work necessary is a big reason why their country is such a shithole.
 

Double Trouble

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If I lived in a shithole like Syria I would want to move to a better country too and not just one that is "non-warring".

The problem is that many of these people leave their shithole of a country to move to a good country, and then bring the same bullshit that made their country a shithole with them. Countries don't just magically become a shithole or prosperous -- it's just land. It's the people living in those countries and their culture that make them what they are.
 

Ham n' Eggs

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If I lived in a shithole like Syria I would want to move to a better country too and not just one that is "non-warring".
once you are safe in a non-warring country, and you want to move to a nicer somewhere safe then you become an economic migrant.

The types of behaviors being displayed in europe by the refugees turned economic migrants is fitting with someone who is looking for a nice place to live, not with someone who is desperate to survive impending doom.

refusing food from the red cross
complaining about living conditions (I've seen this in France, Sweden & Norway) being not nice enough (for example not fast enough internet connections, not nice enough food, having to walk to the bus, not having a person to drive them back and forth to the grocery store).

There is no question that there are people who are in need of help, so let's sort them out from the economic migrants. Families with young children are different than hordes of young healthy strong men.
 

Zaap

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This isn't new. This isn't a recent Syrian refugees thing. This has been going on for at least 15 years. I remember seeing documentaries about this 10 years ago, how it sucks ass to be a truck driver driving from France to the UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5FIsmquQqA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxcsP4vWN8Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulxAfyoZhAM

The governments involved are so deballed that it's the truckers that get fined ridiculous amounts (2000pounds per immigrant) for anyone that manages to get on their vehicles and cross- and they're extremely clever about it.

Not to worry- the bleeding hearts here won't be happy until things are just as bad here.

BTW, can't find it right now but there are some excellent documentaries out there about the flip side of this: the people who make it across to the UK and spend their time there leeching the system, stealing, and basically being total parasites with a system that refuses to deal with them, costing the native populace a fortune. But hey- you exist for that.
 
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CZroe

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Wow, so now we consider refugees to be cowards. I think I'm living in a mad world right now. I am seeing firsthand how a populace's opinion can be easily swayed against an entire group of people. So a trucker gets held up in traffic for a few hours? These people don't have a home and were forced to leave the country they were born in, but screw them because I was inconvenienced?

He wasn't only held up for a few hours. He said it's like that every single day.
 

glenn1

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What if they believe that neither side is worth fighting for?

Then when you catch one in the UK, send back to Syria to ISIS custody since they can't decide which side is worthy let the people who have already made up their minds have the choice.
 

Zaap

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Then when you catch one in the UK...
Excessively fine the working stiff who's truck he snuck in on, give him asylum, benefits, and call anyone talking about sending them back somewhere a racist xenophobe.

There's a reason they're so keen on getting into the UK. What, France wasn't good enough? Apparently not.
 

alcoholbob

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This isn't new. This isn't a recent Syrian refugees thing. This has been going on for at least 15 years. I remember seeing documentaries about this 10 years ago, how it sucks ass to be a truck driver driving from France to the UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5FIsmquQqA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxcsP4vWN8Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulxAfyoZhAM

The governments involved are so deballed that it's the truckers that get fined ridiculous amounts (2000pounds per immigrant) for anyone that manages to get on their vehicles and cross- and they're extremely clever about it.

Not to worry- the bleeding hearts here won't be happy until things are just as bad here.

BTW, can't find it right now but there are some excellent documentaries out there about the flip side of this: the people who make it across to the UK and spend their time there leeching the system, stealing, and basically being total parasites with a system that refuses to deal with them, costing the native populace a fortune. But hey- you exist for that.

Incoming Victorian Gray islamophobia post.
 

zinfamous

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This has nothing to do with inconveniencing others; I don't give a damn what's happening to some trucker wherever he may be. If you're too chickenshit to even fight for your own homeland and run away than you are a fucking coward. One of the primary reasons the U.S. has a Second Amendment is to allow the citizenry to repel armed invaders, people like you would just flee and leave the country to the fucking Visogoths rather than fight.

I proudly keep the Visigoths out of my rose bushes every summer.

/salutes
 

pcgeek11

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You're right they spend 12-24 months doing nothing they just accept the word of the refugee without question.

Do you really think that is how it works?

Where are they documenting the "refugees" with no government or paper trail....
 

brycejones

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Where are they documenting the "refugees" with no government or paper trail....

You seem to you have deeply researched this since you already called it smoke and mirrors. So can you describe the process and who is involved?