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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
I think it's odd that Apple spends so much time bashing Vista while Microsoft doesn't bash the Iphone at all. While the Iphone is innovative, it sucks at the one thing that phones are meant for: talking to people. My roommates, who all own an Iphone, never stop complaining about the dropped calls and the phone freezing up on them.

Microsoft doesn't make cell phones.

Windows Mobile has sold one or two units. Maybe.
 

oogabooga

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At the Original Post of putting these booths outside apple stores, I think it's pretty gutsy and funny.

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
I think it's odd that Apple spends so much time bashing Vista while Microsoft doesn't bash the Iphone at all. While the Iphone is innovative, it sucks at the one thing that phones are meant for: talking to people. My roommates, who all own an Iphone, never stop complaining about the dropped calls and the phone freezing up on them.

I don't know - I'm no apple appologist, but I think the iphone is pretty cool. I don't blame the actual call quality on apple though, I blame AT&T for that since I was one of their customers for 2 (horrible) years before switching providers. It's honestly the biggest reason for not even considering getting an iphone for me, AT&T is a dealbreaker.

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About the Ad campain.
The thing I liked about the Microsoft ads is they weren't directed at apple in the content of the ad. It was more about Microsoft, and not about microsoft being better than apple. While it was obviously directed at apple it wasn't a full out attack on apple. It was more of response (much overdue).

If the microsoft ad campaign had started first it'd probably really suck and we'd all hate it. But after years of hearing only apple on TV and hearing from the people buying into it, it's nice to have a change.

Finally : The comment about "why is the life without walls slogan pasted all over the booths walls" made me laugh. :thumbsup:
 
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Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: mugs
A one year growth rate of 28% is pretty good.

But the thing is, market share doesn't tell the whole story. Apple gets their customers to pay more for the same hardware.

Nah, that's been debunked with numerous comparisons. They just don't sell low-end hardware.

http://www.macworld.com/articl...06/08/macproprice.html

http://technologizer.com/2008/...math-once-and-for-all/

http://www.tomshardware.com/re...indows-vista,1985.html

Those articles are 100% bullshit for a very simple reason - NO ONE pays retail price for PCs. Seriously, when was the last time you knew someone who bought a PC at full retail price? They are always sold on special. Always. That isn't the case with Macs, they never have the huge specials that companies like Dell and HP run. Comparing retail prices is unfair.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Originally posted by: Kaido
Apple doesn't make gaming-oriented systems, but yeah, for the sake of argument I understand. This is why I Hackintosh ;)
Then why did you try make the argument in the first place?

Uh, I didn't try to make that argument in the first place, the other guy did :confused:
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
...it sucks at the one thing that phones are meant for: talking to people. My roommates, who all own an Iphone, never stop complaining about the dropped calls and the phone freezing up on them.

Couldn't agree more. My wife and I both have iPhones. They're great in every way, except as a cell phone lol. I drop calls nearly daily. But I guess it depends on the area you live in, too.
 
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Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Microsoft made Apple look like morans, and all Apple could do was make a commercial about a stack of cash in retaliation.

It is some of the best ownage i've seen in a while....

Actually its the other way round. I liked Apples rebuttal commercial.

I thought it was a funny commercial as well, but only because apple kind of made the wrong point IMO.

Why spend money on something that isn't broken in the first place?
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Microsoft made Apple look like morans, and all Apple could do was make a commercial about a stack of cash in retaliation.

It is some of the best ownage i've seen in a while....

Actually its the other way round. I liked Apples rebuttal commercial.

I thought it was a funny commercial as well, but only because apple kind of made the wrong point IMO.

Why spend money on something that isn't broken in the first place?

It's clever marketing. The general consensus in people's minds is that Windows is buggy in general and Vista is even worse, despite SP1 cleaning up a ton of problems. I run Vista MCE on my HTPC and it runs just fine. I also have a Mac workstation, an XP laptop, and a BSD file server. Marketing isn't about the truth, it's about getting people to buy stuff. Cuz, you know, corn syrup isn't bad for you in moderation ;)
 

MrPickins

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Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Microsoft made Apple look like morans, and all Apple could do was make a commercial about a stack of cash in retaliation.

It is some of the best ownage i've seen in a while....

Actually its the other way round. I liked Apples rebuttal commercial.

I thought it was a funny commercial as well, but only because apple kind of made the wrong point IMO.

Why spend money on something that isn't broken in the first place?

It's clever marketing. The general consensus in people's minds is that Windows is buggy in general and Vista is even worse, despite SP1 cleaning up a ton of problems. I run Vista MCE on my HTPC and it runs just fine. I also have a Mac workstation, an XP laptop, and a BSD file server. Marketing isn't about the truth, it's about getting people to buy stuff. Cuz, you know, corn syrup isn't bad for you in moderation ;)

So you admit that the ads are intentionally misleading (in other words, bullshit)?


Originally posted by: MrPickins
So, basically Apple is trolling the commercial breaks?

Guess so...
 
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Originally posted by: MrPickins
So you admit that the ads are intentionally misleading (in other words, bullshit)?

Most of those ads can not legally be aired in New Zealand because law forbids outright lies in advertising.
 

MrPickins

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Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: MrPickins
So, basically Apple is trolling the commercial breaks?

Guess so...

quoting yourself isn't healthy my friend.

Meh, nothing wrong with pointing out the OP's lack of any response to my question...
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: MrPickins
So you admit that the ads are intentionally misleading (in other words, bull)?

Do I "admit"...? Uh, I'm not Apple...I didn't make the commercials? They make goofy commercials, I see them on TV just like you...? What are you getting at here? :confused:
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: MrPickins
So, basically Apple is trolling the commercial breaks?

Guess so...

quoting yourself isn't healthy my friend.

Meh, nothing wrong with pointing out the OP's lack of any response to my question...

Sorry I was having dinner, I'll try to get back to you quicker next time :p
 
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Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: MrPickins
So you admit that the ads are intentionally misleading (in other words, bull)?

Do I "admit"...? Uh, I'm not Apple...I didn't make the commercials? They make goofy commercials, I see them on TV just like you...? What are you getting at here? :confused:

lol, I bet you're good at dodgeball.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: MrPickins
So you admit that the ads are intentionally misleading (in other words, bull)?

Do I "admit"...? Uh, I'm not Apple...I didn't make the commercials? They make goofy commercials, I see them on TV just like you...? What are you getting at here? :confused:

lol, I bet you're good at dodgeball.

:confused: I don't work for Apple, why would I represent them? Why would I "admit" anything about their ads? I have as many Windows computers as I do Macs...
 
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Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Respect-- for using the dollar sign in M$. Are you eight years old?

I'm justified ;)

Idiot. Hypocrite.

Wow :Q Are you okay man?

Right, you're a Mac user. I'll true to use smaller words around you in the future. Consider this, Einstein - you are drooling and stroking yourself over this enormous Mac campaign on one hand, and mocking MS for spending money on advertising on the other. You're a hypocrite.
 
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Tim

Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: MrPickins
So you admit that the ads are intentionally misleading (in other words, bull)?

Do I "admit"...? Uh, I'm not Apple...I didn't make the commercials? They make goofy commercials, I see them on TV just like you...? What are you getting at here? :confused:

lol, I bet you're good at dodgeball.

:confused: I don't work for Apple, why would I represent them? Why would I "admit" anything about their ads? I have as many Windows computers as I do Macs...

Nobody asked you to represent Apple, besides, you're probably no where even near qualified to even think about doing so.

He was obviously asking for your opinion, and you keep dodging, just like you just did again.
 

MrPickins

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Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: MrPickins
So you admit that the ads are intentionally misleading (in other words, bull)?

Do I "admit"...? Uh, I'm not Apple...I didn't make the commercials? They make goofy commercials, I see them on TV just like you...? What are you getting at here? :confused:

lol, I bet you're good at dodgeball.

:confused: I don't work for Apple, why would I represent them? Why would I "admit" anything about their ads? I have as many Windows computers as I do Macs...

Ok, then...

Simple yes/no question:

Do you agree that the premise on which the latest anti-Vista commercials are based is complete BS and FUD?
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Respect-- for using the dollar sign in M$. Are you eight years old?

I'm justified ;)

Idiot. Hypocrite.

Wow :Q Are you okay man?

Right, you're a Mac user. I'll true to use smaller words around you in the future. Consider this, Einstein - you are drooling and stroking yourself over this enormous Mac campaign on one hand, and mocking MS for spending money on advertising on the other. You're a hypocrite.

I also use Windows...and BSD...and Linux...am I a Bill Gates fanboy too? Is Linus my buddy?

You have the weirdest overreaction to a funny little ad I've ever seen :confused: Do you feel better about yourself calling people names anonymously on a computer forum? You're more than welcome not to post in this thread if you don't like it...
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: MrPickins
Ok, then...

Simple yes/no question:

Do you agree that the premise on which the latest anti-Vista commercials are based is complete BS and FUD?

Of course they're BS. I'm not defending the Mac or Windows platforms, I just thought it was funny that Microsoft put "I'm a PC" kiosks right in front of the Apple store. Vista had a rough start, but it works fine now. I'm very happy with my Vista Media Center. Like I said earlier, advertising isn't about the truth, it's about getting people to buy stuff. Buying Crest toothpaste to make your teeth white isn't going to land you a hot girl, but it doesn't stop them from advertising. I don't know how we got on this topic anyway, I never said Vista was bad...