Wow, Geek Squad prices are crazy

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Psyber

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Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: Psyber
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: Psyber
Cheaper than I thought it would be... you have to take in account: rent, insurance, marketing, travel, etc...

Also, it's not like they get 20 jobs a day... they might get like 1-6 jobs a day which wouldn't be that much total money.

we get 20+ jobs a day:D

Ahhh... well good for them. I still agree that it isn't too expensive. Things are priced at what people are willing to pay for them.

For people that think the pricing is unreasonable, are you saying if you have a car that is worth $2000, but someone is willing to pay $5000, you would price it lower than $5000?

Not $3000 less, but I wouldn't fvck them over for $5000. I guess I'm just old-fashioned for being honest.

I had an uncle that opened a convience/grocery store and priced like that, he went out of business in 5 months.
 

stonecold3169

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Originally posted by: Psyber
Cheaper than I thought it would be... you have to take in account: rent, insurance, marketing, travel, etc...

Also, it's not like they get 20 jobs a day... they might get like 1-6 jobs a day which wouldn't be that much total money.


Plus, keep in mind that you have to pay the middle man too. The guy fixing the computers is hired by best buy... best buy offers the service to make money. Lets say that installing ram takes an hour, which it might from the time it takes to fill out any paper work such as waivers or whatever, to getting it tested, and then giving the system back. So, then, the store is effectively "making" $20 an hour since they have to pay the guy actually doing it. If you were self employed, you could make $20 an hour by charging $20 an hour
 

aplefka

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Originally posted by: Psyber
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: Psyber
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: Psyber
Cheaper than I thought it would be... you have to take in account: rent, insurance, marketing, travel, etc...

Also, it's not like they get 20 jobs a day... they might get like 1-6 jobs a day which wouldn't be that much total money.

we get 20+ jobs a day:D

Ahhh... well good for them. I still agree that it isn't too expensive. Things are priced at what people are willing to pay for them.

For people that think the pricing is unreasonable, are you saying if you have a car that is worth $2000, but someone is willing to pay $5000, you would price it lower than $5000?

Not $3000 less, but I wouldn't fvck them over for $5000. I guess I'm just old-fashioned for being honest.

I had an uncle that opened a convience/grocery store and priced like that, he went out of business in 5 months.

Which is why I would never do independent PC repair as a real serious venture. :)

If I worked as a Geek Squad member, at least it'd be easier for me to justify the prices by apologizing and saying that's just how it is, and then offering to do it for them for a little less, off-the-clock. As a friend though, I couldn't ever do that to someone.
 

DBL

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Originally posted by: aplefka
Way to read the thread. :roll: I said I DON'T feel I have any spectacular knowledge of computers or PC repair beyond the basics. Furthermore, if "common sense" business skill is to grossly overcharge then I'm glad I lack the foundation you have. I'd rather help someone out for a fair amount and explain to them so they can help themselves in the future maybe.

I'm sure that the reason what I estimated seems like bargain is because with you, they get the great gift of your presence and knowledge. :roll:

Our definition of "grossly overcharge" may be radically different. When I set my prices, I consider my time, expertise and the "going rate" on top of the actual cost of the part I'm replacing and I don't even have to pay B&M rent.

Let's keep it simple. If you made $70 for replacing ram every week, could you live and afford to eat on that wage? Would you considering advertising to gain customers quickly or rely on "word of mouth"? Would you rent a B&M store-front to give a polished professional appearance? Would you have a professional website created with various customer service options available online?

I'd imagine a business savvy person would take all these things into account when setting their prices. There are many who will tell you that the correct price is the most you can get away with. Nobody gets rich undervaluing their services.
 

RMSistight

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Originally posted by: aplefka
I was looking through the Best Buy ad today, and on the second page they list the prices for their Geek Squad tasks. Some of it is the biggest waste of money ever. How much would you charge for the tasks below (be sure to read their Best Buy description)?

$29 - Install More Memory - Speed up your PC and run more applications at the same time.
My complaint: RAM most likely not included for that price, so this is an additionl $30, which is half of another stick. A fair price to me would seem like $10 if they bought the RAM from BB, $15 for out-of-store purchases.

$59 - Diagnose Your System - Check for PC-crippling viruses and verify the hard drive and processor are in tip-top condition.
My complaint: Doesn't McAfee or Norton do the same thing for the same price, except that it can be used an unlimited amount of times and updated for a year? This seems like a $20-$25 job to me, at the most.

$89 - Back Up Your Data - Save up to 4GB of your important information to DVD.
My complaint: For $89 you could get 200 blank DVDs. That's 800GB. Yes, it does cost money for the burning software and burner itself, but $89 for one DVD of data? That's ridiculous. That's high for even 10 DVDs of data. I'd do the same for $10 plus $1 for each DVD.

$118 - Advanced Security Setup - Installation of anti-spyware and antivirus software (includes Precinct versions of software). Plus customize your PC to meet performance and security needs.
My complaint: Again, McAfee or Norton anyone? $118 is probably at least a 2-year subscription, maybe even 3, to either of those services. I don't understand what they can "customize" to up performance for $118. Another $20 job, maybe a little more if they explained the customization process.

$159 - Install A Wireless Home Network - Get standard setup and encryption of 2 PCs on your network to help keep it secure.
My complaint: Now this one is a bit more reasonable. Most people don't know much about securing their networks or even how to set them up. However, after spending $50 or so on a nice router, that's a bit more than I would want to pay. I'd feel that $70 plus $5 per PC hooked up would be a fair amount.

$229 - Transfer Data From PC To PC - New PC? No problem. Keep all your old files, favorite digital photos, and important papers.
My complaint: How hard is it to hook up the new hard drive in the same system and copy some files over to it? This is the most overpriced task, though the $89 DVD comes in a close second. For $229 you could choose to either upgrade your processor, get another 1-2 gigs of RAM, add more storage space, or get another optical drive, or a mix and match. After shelling out $600-700 for a new computer, are people going to want to pay another $229 to recover their old stuff? Hell no. I'd say this is a $125 job at the most.

So there's my little rant. Sorry it's kinda long. But seriously, based upon those descriptions, Geek Squad is the biggest fvcking ripoff ever. How much would you guys charge for one or all of the above tasks? Am I just being too nice and unrealistic?

Maybe Anandtech should start their own geek squad and charge significantly less...muahaha.
 

BillyBobJoel71

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They know people are stupid and don't know that they are getting completely ripped off. Most of that is easily fixable by the computer's owner and shouldn't cost anything.
 

gigapet

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um think of it as a car mechanics.......could they charge much less than they usually do?

absolutely.

but why?

If their prices were above market value they'd have no customers. Obviously their prices are reasonable becasue they are doing well.
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: Kevin1211
all those are like 5-10 min jobs.... fvcking ridiculous....

another one who doesn't understand business.

People are paying for the service not the time. They have piece of mind of not having to worry about fcking it up by doing it themselves. That is worth alot to most people.

 

BriGy86

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i realize that businesses are here to make money

but if you rape your customers all they will do is end up hating you

besides its not like those services are the ONLY way best buy makes money
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: BriGy86
i realize that businesses are here to make money

but if you rape your customers all they will do is end up hating you

besides its not like those services are the ONLY way best buy makes money

The customers at not getting raped though. YOU THINK they are because you know how to do that stuff already. Just like its probably cake for my mechanic to change my oild but is he RAPING me by charging me 100 bucks for my regular maintenance check up? I dont think so.
 

imported_Ainaas

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I went into a local Best Buy needing to test my PCI-E video card, because I have no extra cards and no extra systems to test with. Walked up to the Geek Squad counter and they were pretty fast and pretty courteous. The guy offered to let me test my card for free, provided it only took like 10 minutes. They didn't have any PCI-E computers on the repair desk, so we went back to the floor model computers and found a PCI-E one. He opened it up and everything and was willing to plug in the one I had, but then I thought to check the maker of the card currently in the computer. It was ATi and I had an Nvidia card in hand, and told the guy "don't worry about it, not worth having to install drivers on this card. I'll just buy another card, take it home and check my computer, then return it."

Point of the story: they may charge way too much, but they may also be useful in a bind. I wouldn't just wholesale take my computer to them and say "fix it", but they certainly were useful in this case (it came down to something beyond our control).
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: BriGy86
i realize that businesses are here to make money

but if you rape your customers all they will do is end up hating you

besides its not like those services are the ONLY way best buy makes money

The customers at not getting raped though. YOU THINK they are because you know how to do that stuff already. Just like its probably cake for my mechanic to change my oild but is he RAPING me by charging me 100 bucks for my regular maintenance check up? I dont think so.

yeah. while you are happy in lala land doing good for the world and scraping by, someone else is making a killing.

the key is to charge a fair price....based on the market...not your morality.

to assuage any of your morality-based concerns, jsut give them a bunch of free stuff like openoffice, picasas etc...

in addition, any work i do for friends or family i do for free
 

BriGy86

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster

in addition, any work i do for friends or family i do for free

exactly i fix my friends computers all the time

like one of my friends, i pretty much take care of all his computer needs that don't cost me money for parts and what not and he takes car of my car needs
 

exilera

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
That's like saying a plumber is a ripoff at $60/hr when all you need is a pipe wrench. If you don't know how to do it or don't have the time to do it (whatever "it" is) you pay someone to do "it" for you.

It's a service, not a ripoff.

:thumbsup:
 

aplefka

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Feb 29, 2004
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Gigapet and DLB, masters of business on this forum, please realize that I wasn't taking into account the costs of starting up the business, etc. I was just throwing out a number in the 5-10 minutes it took me to write that up.

Going around and telling people they have no business sense simply because they're giving a rough estimate based on ONLY the job itself makes you feel really good I bet. Especially when it was given as an example from someone who has no intentions of going into such a business. But apparently I'm not business savvy according to DLB, because I was just throwing out numbers instead of sitting down and taking the time to calculate down to the dollar how much I'd charge exactly to make a profit.

Regardless of what you say, I still think they are way overpriced for the service they're offering. Would they not get more people interested in their service if they cut down their prices somewhat?
 

The Pentium Guy

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Considering how most people that look for services like geeksquad are generally 95 year old ladies who use the computer to play solitaire...... you CAN rip them off easily
 

lavagirl669

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Originally posted by: KLin
People are retarded in regards to computers.

/thread

:thumbsup: no sh!t
I set up a new PC for a customer installed some AV/Spyware software
on it.
She wants it moved to her home office in another room and thought
that just physically "moving" the PC to another room would require
re-installing "everything" (Software/OS/peripherals) :disgust:
I had to exercise high levels of restraint to keep from bursting out laughing at her.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: hypn0tik
They can charge that much because there are people who don't know better and are willing to pay for them. They profit off of people who are completely clueless about computers.

Kinda like...oh say

A plumber
An Electrician
A landscaping service
HVAC repair
Deckwork.

Just about anything. That's how this country works. Think about the charges on labor for a plumber, electrician and HVAC repair. They do things many people are pretty clueless about.