Would you vote for George W. Bush again?

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Taggart

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Bush vs. the potential Democrat? I'd vote for Bush.

Bush vs. Giuliani or McCain? I'd vote for Giuliani or McCain.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: DaiShan
Originally posted by: Strk
Bush isn't conservative. He is for massive spending and big government; hardly the recipe for conservitism.


Thank you. He spends my money on a bunch of crap that I don't believe in then has the nerve to say he is conservative. He only plays the conservative card so that he can get away with legislating morality.

Yeah, I can't quite figure out the logic behind some people. They talk about the "evil liberals" while support the guy who outspends everyone and whose motto should be "Go nanny state!" I think some don't really understand the difference between conservative and liberal. They assume that the (R) or (D) means something, but it doesn't.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: daveymark
Yuppers, I'd vote for W again. Just try imagining Kerry in office. most likely we'd be attacked again, this time on a larger scale. Thank the Lord Almighty for Bush.

Oh, and P&N - No need to muck up OT with the liberal mush you're about to see after this post :D

Nah, your post pretty much sh!t up the whole OT forum by itself! :D
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: DaiShan
Originally posted by: Strk
Bush isn't conservative. He is for massive spending and big government; hardly the recipe for conservitism.


Thank you. He spends my money on a bunch of crap that I don't believe in then has the nerve to say he is conservative. He only plays the conservative card so that he can get away with legislating morality.

Yeah, I can't quite figure out the logic behind some people. They talk about the "evil liberals" while support the guy who outspends everyone and whose motto should be "Go nanny state!" I think some don't really understand the difference between conservative and liberal. They assume that the (R) or (D) means something, but it doesn't.


Quick: Anyone know how many spending bills that Bush has vetoed so far? Anyone? Reagan vetoed 22 at this point that I'll give you a hint: That's 22 more than Bush has.
 

Taggart

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The main thing I consider in hindsight...if Kerry had been elected we'd be looking at 2 more liberal justices instead of a much more balanced court, which you get with Roberts and Alito.
 

Squisher

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Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: DaiShan
Originally posted by: Strk
Bush isn't conservative. He is for massive spending and big government; hardly the recipe for conservitism.


Thank you. He spends my money on a bunch of crap that I don't believe in then has the nerve to say he is conservative. He only plays the conservative card so that he can get away with legislating morality.

Yeah, I can't quite figure out the logic behind some people. They talk about the "evil liberals" while support the guy who outspends everyone and whose motto should be "Go nanny state!" I think some don't really understand the difference between conservative and liberal. They assume that the (R) or (D) means something, but it doesn't.
I agree with both of you, but I wonder if we'd be better off with Kerry.
Not that I'm in any way a Clinton backer, but you had to like the way he talked Liberal but was more conservative in his spending than W.
I wish one of the two parties would put out a true fiscal conservative.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Taggart
The main thing I consider in hindsight...if Kerry had been elected we'd be looking at 2 more liberal justices instead of a much more balanced court, which you get with Roberts and Alito.

In other words: Eliminate Roe vs Wade FTW to so called conservatives. The one issue party. I can't wait for that crap to be overturned so that it can be thrown back to the states and we can move this country forward instead of working wedge issues (well, then the GOP will throw up the gays, etc. but that will soon fall too).

 

The Godfather

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Iono why everyone hates the guy so much. They question the war, but if i was in his place, and some punks killed 4,000 innocent people and dropped 2 of the largest structures in the world (not to mention economic center), i would be going to war too. What else? Some call him a redneck, but i don't see how that makes him a bad leader.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: The Godfather
Iono why everyone hates the guy so much. They question the war, but if i was in his place, and some punks killed 4,000 innocent people and dropped 2 of the largest structures in the world (not to mention economic center), i would be going to war too. What else? Some call him a redneck, but i don't see how that makes him a bad leader.
because instead of coming up with better solutions it's so much easier to complain about and attack his policies. :confused:

 

eits

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Originally posted by: The Godfather
Iono why everyone hates the guy so much. They question the war, but if i was in his place, and some punks killed 4,000 innocent people and dropped 2 of the largest structures in the world (not to mention economic center), i would be going to war too. What else? Some call him a redneck, but i don't see how that makes him a bad leader.

the first thing you said about the war is exactly part of why people say the second thing you said about him being a bad leader.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: Taggart
Bush vs. the potential Democrat? I'd vote for Bush.

Bush vs. Giuliani or McCain? I'd vote for Giuliani or McCain.

guiliani's a douchenozzle. he'd be a horrible president.

mccain all the way. he'd be able to unify the left and right.
 

Taggart

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Taggart
The main thing I consider in hindsight...if Kerry had been elected we'd be looking at 2 more liberal justices instead of a much more balanced court, which you get with Roberts and Alito.

In other words: Eliminate Roe vs Wade FTW to so called conservatives. The one issue party. I can't wait for that crap to be overturned so that it can be thrown back to the states and we can move this country forward instead of working wedge issues (well, then the GOP will throw up the gays, etc. but that will soon fall too).

Those aren't issues that are important to me. I'm not religious. I look at garbage like the recent eminent domain ruling and realize how scary a liberal Supreme Court (which is the most powerful branch of government) can be. Sure, the states can pass legislation to prevent the ED ruling from having any effect, but what other bullshit rulings would a liberal SC come up with?
 

alien42

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Originally posted by: The Godfather
Iono why everyone hates the guy so much. They question the war, but if i was in his place, and some punks killed 4,000 innocent people and dropped 2 of the largest structures in the world (not to mention economic center), i would be going to war too. What else? Some call him a redneck, but i don't see how that makes him a bad leader.

i know this has been said millions of times but apparently it bears repeating. what did iraq have to do with 9/11?
 

The Godfather

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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: The Godfather
Iono why everyone hates the guy so much. They question the war, but if i was in his place, and some punks killed 4,000 innocent people and dropped 2 of the largest structures in the world (not to mention economic center), i would be going to war too. What else? Some call him a redneck, but i don't see how that makes him a bad leader.

the first thing you said about the war is exactly part of why people say the second thing you said about him being a bad leader.

Ok so you mean that for letting it happen he isn't doing his job right? I agree, but to tell you the truth, i can't think of any other President that could have stopped it. And if they did, something worse would have come their way and the war would have still erupted. So one way or another, it would have still hit us in the ass.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: DaiShan
Originally posted by: Strk
Bush isn't conservative. He is for massive spending and big government; hardly the recipe for conservitism.


Thank you. He spends my money on a bunch of crap that I don't believe in then has the nerve to say he is conservative. He only plays the conservative card so that he can get away with legislating morality.

Yeah, I can't quite figure out the logic behind some people. They talk about the "evil liberals" while support the guy who outspends everyone and whose motto should be "Go nanny state!" I think some don't really understand the difference between conservative and liberal. They assume that the (R) or (D) means something, but it doesn't.
I agree with both of you, but I wonder if we'd be better off with Kerry.
Not that I'm in any way a Clinton backer, but you had to like the way he talked Liberal but was more conservative in his spending than W.
I wish one of the two parties would put out a true fiscal conservative.

The thing people need to remember is that with Kerry, you still had a Congress that was in the control of the Republicans. And there is one thing - and only one thing it seems - that gets Republicans to live up to their rhetoric: a Democrat in office.

The CATO Institute even did a piece on why conservatives should vote for a Demcratic president. Unfortunately, partisanship trumps actual political beliefs for many.
 

ultimatebob

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Originally posted by: The Godfather
Iono why everyone hates the guy so much. They question the war, but if i was in his place, and some punks killed 4,000 innocent people and dropped 2 of the largest structures in the world (not to mention economic center), i would be going to war too. What else? Some call him a redneck, but i don't see how that makes him a bad leader.

Which war are you talking about? The war against Afghanistan was tied to the war on terror, but almost all of the evidence tying Iraq to Al Quida was fabricated. That's not just my opinion anymore, it's a proven fact. If anything, removing Saddam Hussein increased Al Quida's presence in that country.
 

alien42

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Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: The Godfather
Iono why everyone hates the guy so much. They question the war, but if i was in his place, and some punks killed 4,000 innocent people and dropped 2 of the largest structures in the world (not to mention economic center), i would be going to war too. What else? Some call him a redneck, but i don't see how that makes him a bad leader.

i know this has been said millions of times but apparently it bears repeating. what did iraq have to do with 9/11?

and i forgot to mention that bin laden still hasnt been caught.
 

The Godfather

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Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: The Godfather
Iono why everyone hates the guy so much. They question the war, but if i was in his place, and some punks killed 4,000 innocent people and dropped 2 of the largest structures in the world (not to mention economic center), i would be going to war too. What else? Some call him a redneck, but i don't see how that makes him a bad leader.

i know this has been said millions of times but apparently it bears repeating. what did iraq have to do with 9/11?

and i forgot to mention that bin laden still hasnt been caught.

Ok you think that the US military system is uber technologically advanced nano age sh1t. You try finding a bearded dude that could be on every single abandoned spot of the WORLD. He might be hiding in a hole in Siberia, how the hell do you expect us to track that down that fast? At least Saddam was in the area of the troops, but Bin Ladin could be any fking where. We can't go through all of Japan's small ass islands, or all of Russia's mountains.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: The Godfather
Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: The Godfather
Iono why everyone hates the guy so much. They question the war, but if i was in his place, and some punks killed 4,000 innocent people and dropped 2 of the largest structures in the world (not to mention economic center), i would be going to war too. What else? Some call him a redneck, but i don't see how that makes him a bad leader.

i know this has been said millions of times but apparently it bears repeating. what did iraq have to do with 9/11?

and i forgot to mention that bin laden still hasnt been caught.

Ok you think that the US military system is uber technologically advanced nano age sh1t. You try finding a bearded dude that could be on every single abandoned spot of the WORLD. He might be hiding in a hole in Siberia, how the hell do you expect us to track that down that fast? At least Saddam was in the area of the troops, but Bin Ladin could be any fking where. We can't go through all of Japan's small ass islands, or all of Russia's mountains.

He's a 6'5" Arab on dialysis in a non-Arabian country.