would you save her life? (not hypothetical, this is real)

[Gaard]

First, I want to say that I may be way off on the following so if I am just disregard please...

Doesn't the government, in a round-about way, pay for a good percentage of charity. Don't they say "If you contribute to any charity, we'll reward you by not taking as much from you in taxes." Isn't that kinda like the same thing?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Gaard
First, I want to say that I may be way off on the following so if I am just disregard please...

Doesn't the government, in a round-about way, pay for a good percentage of charity. Don't they say "If you contribute to any charity, we'll reward you by not taking as much from you in taxes." Isn't that kinda like the same thing?

I never said I agreed with our tax system, either. But yes, you can write off charitable donations over a certain amount. This is a "write off" meaning they act as if you never earned that money. It's not really a "tax break."

 

[Gaard]

That's what I thought. I remember way back the company I worked for had reps from a certain charity organization (Unicef, I think) come in and try to talk everybody into donating on a weekly basis. One of the biggest selling points they used was that you would be able to write it off. BTW...I didn't commit to donating because at that time, IIRC, the president of Unicef was caught embezzling or something like that.

Anyways, I'm wondering if it would be feasable for a charitable organization to be set up for just this kind of circumstance (I'm sure there already is) to use private donations to pay for this kind of thing. If a happy compromise between the charity and medical field are met during these things, I'm sure the cost would be greatly reduced and paid for. I dunno...just thinking. It's a shame people die because of things like lack of insurance, lack of funds, or other people's greed.

 

[Yo Ma Ma]

If I thought I could make a difference in saving the woman's life, then that's what I'd do. It would not be my conern if I was "setting a precedent" or whatever, that would be a matter for the courts. I wonder if all the media exposure would just result in her being deported though?

Is she Catholic, or have any sort of Church affiliation? Perhaps they could help her financially, the less you try to involve the government in this process the better.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: smp

Originally posted by: gotsmack
no, the role of the government is to serve it's citizens

So why the fvck has your government been involved in so many bullsh!t "HUMANITARIAN" foreign policy forays? Protecting what? Kosovo (never even a country) citizens? Kurds? Somalis?
WTF are you talking about?

If they can justify billions of dollars in military spending to send troops to places like Yugoslavia, somalia etc .. then they can fvcking save the life of this woman.

I can't even believe that people give in to the idea that someone is about to die because of MONEY, or lack of.
It's ludicrous.
You say it's the "real world" .. money is the abstraction, not life.

You like to say fvck a lot, you fvckin fvck.

If we save this woman and the taxpayers foot the bill, we have to save everyone. The cost would make our military spending look like chump change.

According to the CDC 724,621 people died in 1999 from heart disease.

According to this page on the American Heart Associations site the first year cost of the heart transplant is $303,400.

The transplants alone would cost $219 trillion. And that's just the transplants. The cost is then $39,700 for each year after that that a transplant survivor lives.

Damn, we need to save everybody! New hearts all around!

You're a fool. Are you the best that Canada has to offer?

 

[GundamW]

It is a tough question.

A life is a life. Can't she make a payment plan or something to pay back the government?

If the government is spending $3XX billion on military expenses, can it not spend $1 million on a life? or $1 billion for 1000 lives?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: GundamW
It is a tough question.

A life is a life. Can't she make a payment plan or something to pay back the government?

If the government is spending $3XX billion on military expenses, can it not spend $1 million on a life? or $1 billion for 1000 lives?

Because it's not the government's money. It's the people's tax dollars.

A common defense is one thing (and Constitutional), individual medical care is another. The two are unrelated.