Would you give Obama a third term?

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LPCTech

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Really the only thing I was "joking" about was "emperor for 20 years", plus its supposed to be a comical exaggeration. No one should be president forever. No democrat wants to put the precedent in place of a president being in office longer than hes supposed to, because we know the next republican president(if there ever is one again lol) would abuse it. The reason I said Emperor is because republicans like to say how much of a dictator he is. And the only reason I would say that anyway is because I know that Obama wouldnt even Accept a third term. I bet Trump would though. :sneaky:

And its not walking back a statement, its explaining comedy to someone who doesnt get it and took it as serious for some reason. ;)

that said.

Hail Emperor Obama the Wise, President for life!!!
 

TeeJay1952

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only if the competition is hillary and trump

And you don't have to tip!

I think Jan 20 every 4 or 8 years with the orderly transition of our government is the biggest expression of our uniqueness as a nation.
 

TheSlamma

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Nope, I'm ready for corporations to take a backseat and the middle class to be at the front again.

No Obama, No Hillary, No Trump
 

Thump553

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Hell no! I thought, in the beginning he would be a great unifier, but under his watch racial division in this country is as bad as I've seen it in my lifetime. We went backwards on his watch. He's a big liar too.

You must be very young then.

The fifties had overt, institutionalized racism throughout the South and defacto racism almost everywhere else, the sixties had nearly continuous racial protests (far more extensive than the piddling ones today), the freedom bus rides, and extensive race riots, especially after MLK was killed. The seventies and eighties were better but we re-institutionalized racism with Nixon's New South bent-causing all southern segregationists to move from the Dems to the GOP overnight and still a core of the GOP. Plus we had riots, demonstrations, etc. throughout the country about forced school busing, the whole Willie Horton thing, etc.

The racial we have today is mostly people frustrated that things still are "fixed" even with a black president.
 

mrjminer

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You must be very young then.

The fifties had overt, institutionalized racism throughout the South and defacto racism almost everywhere else, the sixties had nearly continuous racial protests (far more extensive than the piddling ones today), the freedom bus rides, and extensive race riots, especially after MLK was killed. The seventies and eighties were better but we re-institutionalized racism with Nixon's New South bent-causing all southern segregationists to move from the Dems to the GOP overnight and still a core of the GOP. Plus we had riots, demonstrations, etc. throughout the country about forced school busing, the whole Willie Horton thing, etc.

The racial we have today is mostly people frustrated that things still are "fixed" even with a black president.

So, we have equality. There is nothing that is not "fixed." The only thing that could possibly be done now is to give favoritism. The problem is people don't want equality. What they want are handouts and cop-outs. They want someone to blame for their own failures other than themselves (ie: AA), or their shitty luck (ie: someone lost a leg, and now they get mandated special treatment via the ADA). You can't with any semblance of rationality have literally equal rights, and then tack on additional policies for races / disabilities / etc. that disadvantage others by comparison, and claim that things are not "fixed" in terms of the advantaged parties being now disadvantaged somehow, so I presume you actually meant the opposite of what you imply with your statement of "even with a black president," or your implication is the opposite of how I read it and your statement is merely convoluted.

Regardless, this thread exemplifies the stupidity of the majority of P&N people on this forum: completely delusional, hard party lines, us vs them, every material object is a right, bashing America abroad is what leaders should be doing, forcing policies against the will of the people, removal or diminishing of Constitution or other inalienable rights, preference of others to the existing citizenry, refusal to accept science, constant refutations, refusal or inability to admit failures, idolatry, praises infinite spending, no personal responsibility, unlimited excuses and imagined detriments that society imposes, and general stupidity.

Barack Obama is a fucking disgrace, along with the overwhelming majority of democrats (yea, the idea of a democratic party is great, but cut through the bullshit and realize the party is hijacked by fucking radicals --- the GOP is similar, but obviously better currently), and anyone who isn't deluded and rationally looks at the things he has done easily identify these things.

The first two pages of this thread are full of people who obviously can't or won't.
 
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trenchfoot

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Nope, I'm ready for corporations to take a backseat and the middle class to be at the front again.

No Obama, No Hillary, No Trump

I agree. But what's standing in the way of this, this oligarchic-inspired bent by the very rich, is that they don't want the less deserving and miserably less qualified middle class and poor to be dictating terms to them about how much taxes they should pay, and how many people they should hire for their businesses, and how they should refuse to hire illegal immigrants and especially so, to dictate to them how they should not violate any law that impedes their efforts to be so rich as to be beyond the reach of any and all that would stand in their way.

To this end, they, the self-acknowledged "managers" of all the people that needs "managing", know that to "manage" the vast majority the way they see fit, they have to "manage" the gov't first. This they have accomplished by thoroughly corrupting the gov't so as to "manage" it the way any "manager" would like: Absolute authority without penalty or any other undesirable consequence.

Ergo, this penchant for "deregulating" themselves to free themselves from the bonds of ethics, morality, and ironically.......those Christian values that they despise but love to imbue their voting base with to get their way.
 

Moonbeam

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Obama is wonderful. His intellectual capacity to analyze, direct and offer solutions to problems puts me to sleep, but I think I would like Trump in the White House, now, because his solutions make my hair stand on end. I'm up for a little sky driving. The worst that can happen is that the shoot doesn't open and my balls go splat. Better than death by a thousand bought-off democrats.
 

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No I would not vote for Republican DINOObama because he didn't do squat to clean up the crooks on Wall St. who nearly took the U.S. economy to the loo and flushed it down the toilet in exchange for new YACHTS hit the fan yet. (Yet Another Crap Has This Shit)
 

mysticjbyrd

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Hell, no!

Obama = Hillary = Republican

At least with Trump, we aren't 100% sure he will screw us all over at every turn! Then we can kick his ass out in four years, and get Warren!
 

fskimospy

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Hell, no!

Obama = Hillary = Republican

At least with Trump, we aren't 100% sure he will screw us all over at every turn! Then we can kick his ass out in four years, and get Warren!

Serious question. Do you actually believe Obama and Hillary are indistinguishable from Republicans? If so, why? Be as specific as you can.
 

mysticjbyrd

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Serious question. Do you actually believe Obama and Hillary are indistinguishable from Republicans? If so, why? Be as specific as you can.

Every single policy position = Reagan era republican position.

The only issues that differentiates them are LBGT issues, which actually just changed recently for both of them. Meh, I will give them the benefit of the doubt on that one.


This is a democrat,
http://www.ushistory.org/documents/ask-not.htm
 
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Perknose

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Regardless, this thread exemplifies the stupidity of the majority of P&N people on this forum: completely delusional, hard party lines...

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...yea, the idea of a democratic party is great, but cut through the bullshit and realize the party is hijacked by fucking radicals --- the GOP is similar, but obviously better currently...

The current GOP is obviously better? Have you watched their Presidential debates?

Yeah, you're not the self-same, completely delusional party-line partisan you're complaining about, are you? :rolleyes:
 

trenchfoot

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Hell, no!

Obama = Hillary = Republican

At least with Trump, we aren't 100% sure he will screw us all over at every turn! Then we can kick his ass out in four years, and get Warren!

I'm still rooting for Sanders to get the nod, because I see him as being a usurper of the establishment like Trump, but just a lot more predictable and immensely more favorable toward the middle class and the poor.

Warren? Better yet. That should absolutely unblock the chronic constipation the Repubs have been suffering from since Obama got elected and unleash another shit storm like the one Trump's stirring up right at this very moment. ;)
 

Moonbeam

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I'm still rooting for Sanders to get the nod, because I see him as being a usurper of the establishment like Trump, but just a lot more predictable and immensely more favorable toward the middle class and the poor.

Warren? Better yet. That should absolutely unblock the chronic constipation the Repubs have been suffering from since Obama got elected and unleash another shit storm like the one Trump's stirring up right at this very moment. ;)

Shit storm or bust. I like it.
 

fskimospy

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Every single policy position = Reagan era republican position.

The only issues that differentiates them are LBGT issues, which actually just changed recently for both of them. Meh, I will give them the benefit of the doubt on that one.


This is a democrat,
http://www.ushistory.org/documents/ask-not.htm

So tell me the ones you think are the same. I asked you to be specific.

Why is such a simple request so hard?
 

Thump553

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Only if Reagan could have a third.


Reagan's Alzheimer's was kicking in pretty strongly in his second term. Even if I thought he was even a decent president (which I certainly do not-the only thing he did right was have the luck to be in office when USSR collapsed peacefully), no way for a third term for him.

I predict that history will revise Reagan's stature down quite severely a few more decades down the road.
 

nickqt

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Reagan's Alzheimer's was kicking in pretty strongly in his second term. Even if I thought he was even a decent president (which I certainly do not-the only thing he did right was have the luck to be in office when USSR collapsed peacefully), no way for a third term for him.

I predict that history will revise Reagan's stature down quite severely a few more decades down the road.
Reagan was the champion of voodoo economics that the Republican base has finally woken up from and realized that they are never going to get anything out of it. It's happening right now, as we speak.
 

blankslate

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No his support of the TPP highlights an unforgivable lapse in judgement at this point. Either he has sold out or his economic advisors have succeeded in bamboozling him.

The result is the same. Corporate entities will be able to sue the U.S. government in arbitration courts with representatives and arbitrators grown in corporate ghola tanks.


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Sonikku

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Reagan was the champion of voodoo economics that the Republican base has finally woken up from and realized that they are never going to get anything out of it. It's happening right now, as we speak.

Woken up? They knew what it was back in its time. It was designed to enrich the few at the expense of the many and it succeeded spectacularly. Did someone actually think it was about helping the little guy?

Seriously? D:
 

zinfamous

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With the current likely nominees, I would choose Obama without question.

The only in the current and former field that I would like over Obama are Bernie, and possibly even Rand Paul. That dude is a mild form of nut, maybe, but I'd be curious to see what he can get done. He isn't a war monger, at least.