HomerJS
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Sure, he's been a good president for the most part. He's certainly been the best president of my lifetime (1980-present). I also think more generally that we should get rid of term limits as they are stupid. Why set up a policy where you automatically fire someone after 8 years no matter how good a job they are doing?
I mean it was set in place after FDR who is often considered one of the greatest presidents of all time. He didn't keep winning elections because he had become some sort of king, he kept winning elections because people thought he was doing a really good job.
I mean it was set in place after FDR who is often considered one of the greatest presidents of all time. He didn't keep winning elections because he had become some sort of king, he kept winning elections because people thought he was doing a really good job.
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This is my sentiment as well. One of those 'dont know what you've got until it's gone' type of things lmao.
Of course I'd vote for him again, he not only did a great job, he fixed nearly all of Bush's mess under extreme opposition and obstruction. Hes a boss.
Hes a muslim!! (he not)
Hes a dictator!! (less executive orders than both bushes and B. Clinton and Reagan)
Hes ruining the country!! (K..)
Trump will get our jobs back!!! (10.8% unemployment when he took office, 4.9% now, 4.1 under Bill Clinton)
Illegals are running rampant cuz of Obama!!!(Obama has deported more illegals than ANY other president)
Hes weak on terror!! (More terrorists killed than any other president, got Osama)
Gas prices are low.
I'd vote Obama as emperor of the US for the next 20 years if I could. But honestly I dont think he wants to be president anymore lol.
Hes a muslim!! (he not)
Hes a dictator!! (less executive orders than both bushes and B. Clinton and Reagan)
Hes ruining the country!! (K..)
Trump will get our jobs back!!! (10.8% unemployment when he took office, 4.9% now, 4.1 under Bill Clinton)
Illegals are running rampant cuz of Obama!!!(Obama has deported more illegals than ANY other president)
Hes weak on terror!! (More terrorists killed than any other president, got Osama)
Gas prices are low.
I'd vote Obama as emperor of the US for the next 20 years if I could. But honestly I dont think he wants to be president anymore lol.
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BoberFett
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BonzaiDuck
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Well, to me, it's not "Obama-worship" or "cult of personality."
But the man has character -- something sorely lacking in at least a few predecessor presidents.
I remember . . . some time between the Deep Horizon Blowout and the 2010 Tea Party ascendancy -- he looked haggard, tired -- almost beaten.
But he stood up, and took all the heat and trouble that just kept coming.
Like Clinton -- one of the sharper knives in the drawer -- it seems like a lost opportunity. But with Clinton, part (not all) of the drag on his term was born of his own, single weakness.
The Right has been spinning this story that Obama is a "Divider -- not a Uniter." If you ask me, this is about race. They'll never admit it. But what can one conclude, when every overture, every effort, every proposal or initiative has been turned down or obstructed by this Congress? Then there are the "executive orders." What are you going to do if there are problems to solve or correct, you give the legislature some cues, they continue to obstruct, and you only have that option left?
So in typical Goebbels fashion, even as the obstructionists are the source of the division, they blame the Prez for their own reactionary malfeasance. It's a technique: blame the other guy for your darkly motivated failures before he blames you for them.
I'm glad I'm retired. These last eight years -- as much as the eight preceding -- I won't soon forget. Or -- forgive. Between Martin Luther King and John Brown, I find myself trimming my beard when I begin to resemble the latter in the bathroom mirror. And -- what the heck? It's the other side this time who tried to pull off a "Harper's Ferry" with that fiasco up in Malheur.
But the man has character -- something sorely lacking in at least a few predecessor presidents.
I remember . . . some time between the Deep Horizon Blowout and the 2010 Tea Party ascendancy -- he looked haggard, tired -- almost beaten.
But he stood up, and took all the heat and trouble that just kept coming.
Like Clinton -- one of the sharper knives in the drawer -- it seems like a lost opportunity. But with Clinton, part (not all) of the drag on his term was born of his own, single weakness.
The Right has been spinning this story that Obama is a "Divider -- not a Uniter." If you ask me, this is about race. They'll never admit it. But what can one conclude, when every overture, every effort, every proposal or initiative has been turned down or obstructed by this Congress? Then there are the "executive orders." What are you going to do if there are problems to solve or correct, you give the legislature some cues, they continue to obstruct, and you only have that option left?
So in typical Goebbels fashion, even as the obstructionists are the source of the division, they blame the Prez for their own reactionary malfeasance. It's a technique: blame the other guy for your darkly motivated failures before he blames you for them.
I'm glad I'm retired. These last eight years -- as much as the eight preceding -- I won't soon forget. Or -- forgive. Between Martin Luther King and John Brown, I find myself trimming my beard when I begin to resemble the latter in the bathroom mirror. And -- what the heck? It's the other side this time who tried to pull off a "Harper's Ferry" with that fiasco up in Malheur.
Hell no! I thought, in the beginning he would be a great unifier, but under his watch racial division in this country is as bad as I've seen it in my lifetime. We went backwards on his watch. He's a big liar too.
BoberFett
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Obama has been the best candidate/president we've had since January 2001. Unfortunately that's not saying much.
I disagree with a fair amount that Obama says and does, but I'll admit he hasn't been a bad president, all things considered. However the comment I quoted, while the poster walked it back as "a joke", it most likely wasn't. I'd imagine there are quite a few Democrats who would grant their politican of choice imperial powers if they could, because "at least they're not Republicans."
Really? So Obama did nothing to divide on race? His "If I had a son..." comment had nothing to do with race? Obama has no problem using his race as a stick when it suits him.
Yeah, I'm sure the Republicans obstruction couldn't have anything to do with the fact that he was a Democrat. No, it must be race.
And there we go, your political enemies are Nazis. Why wouldn't Republicans want to work with Democrats? Democrats are perfectly willing to reach across the aisle and work together with the people they refer to as Nazis.
You couldn't make a better argument against yourself if you tried.
trenchfoot
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I'd definitely like to give him a third term, but mostly because I'd want him to redeem himself for giving away so much for so little. Time and again during his first term, he and the Dem Congress (at the time) bent over and took it up the ass with accepting shitty deals that the Repubs were literally ecstatic about, and all this with a super majority in Obama's back pocket circa 2009.
In his efforts to compromise, he got took to the cleaners by the Repubs and still got branded by the Repubs as what the Repubs themselves actually were: an obstructionist that refused to negotiate. An award winning modern day tragicomedy IMO.
That he sort of came around during his second term, even with the Repub controlled Congress still in a blockade formation around the White House, is somewhat too little too late for me.
Sure, he accomplished much given how well the Repubs denied him anything and everything they possibly could, but it's not enough to make up for what he and the Dem Congress gave away during his first term.
A third term would give him the opportunity to make amends for that.
Especially so in what he could accomplish with picking Supreme Court justices.
In his efforts to compromise, he got took to the cleaners by the Repubs and still got branded by the Repubs as what the Repubs themselves actually were: an obstructionist that refused to negotiate. An award winning modern day tragicomedy IMO.
That he sort of came around during his second term, even with the Repub controlled Congress still in a blockade formation around the White House, is somewhat too little too late for me.
Sure, he accomplished much given how well the Repubs denied him anything and everything they possibly could, but it's not enough to make up for what he and the Dem Congress gave away during his first term.
A third term would give him the opportunity to make amends for that.
Especially so in what he could accomplish with picking Supreme Court justices.
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