Would you die for your country?

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Amused

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Originally posted by: Kryhs
Hell no. Nothing is more important than my life. /selfish

Really? So I could kill your family, imprison you and beat you daily and you wouldn't risk your life to get free?

Are your freedoms, rights and liberty worth risking your life?

Are your family/loved ones worth risking your life?
 

kurt454

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Actually it's better to make the enemy die for their country.

Bingo.

I would fight for a Just Cause. Afghanistan maybe. Not Iraq.
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Kryhs
Hell no. Nothing is more important than my life. /selfish

Really? So I could kill your family, imprison you and beat you daily and you wouldn't risk your life to get free?

Are your freedoms, rights and liberty worth risking your life?

Is your family/loved ones worth risking your life?

Exactly my thoughts & why the people who say 'no' disgust me.
 

FoBoT

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yes
i served ten years in the US Navy
i was never in combat, but i did serve during the Gulf War, so i got the National Defense Service Medal
 

Kung Lau

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Unfortunately, there are times when the willingness to die for your country or your beliefs will yield operational benefits when attempting to carry out an objective that's high risk. Observe the terrorist tactics that's killing so many people over the pond. Although not directly tied to U.S. military casualities, the civilian (Iraqi) casualties directly affects our military presence over there. The insurgents are willing to die for their cause. And no, because they're dying for their cause isn't necessarily going to mean they will suffer more casualties. (9/11 for example)

I'm not special forces but working around them here at HQ CENTCOM, I see the attitude that gets the job done and rarely recognized.

As a servicemember, you really don't have the choice of choosing when it's convienient or aligned to your values and beliefs because when you take the oath, the oath states that you will uphold the Constitution. If for some reason, I don't believe that leadership of the United States, I should take off the uniform. As long as I wear it, I believe that dying for my country isn't an option as most people have.


Fortunately, I will retire from active duty after 20 years in a couple months and this will not be factor for me. However, if they call me back due to a war with Iran, for example and I am willing to take that oath again, I will be of the same mindset.



 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Actually it's better to make the enemy die for their country.

I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor, dumb bastard die for his country.

From "Patton"

To answer the OP yes I would give up my life to defend my country. I did 4 years in the Navy. Never saw any action as it was at the very very tail end of our involvement in Vietnam and there was little chance I would be sent there as Nixon resigned while I was in boot camp.
 

DaFinn

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I would KILL for my country. It works better that way... Since most Americans are willing to die for their country, I think we will invade USA next :p
 

roguerower

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Not so much for the country itself, but rather for the values that it stands for and the people I love.
 

waggy

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hell no not under the current admistration. I feel for the kids being sent to Iraq and maybe Iran (by the way bush and CO are sounding it is likely).

Now if the US was being invated or something like WWII or going after Bin Laden (why have we not got him yet? grr) i would go and fight if asked.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: notfred
Depends on how you define "country". I'd die to defend my friends and family and thier homeland. I wouldn't die in a foreign land on some "nation-building" mission or other such crap based on the wishes of a few dozen people in positions of power.

exactly.
i would fight and die to protect my country if it was invaded. i wouldn't go to another country to fight and die to help some other country or just to attack another country.
 

jlbenedict

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Originally posted by: lyssword
Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
Originally posted by: OOBradm
In response to the Marine recruiter thread, im curious to see how many people have the attitude that their country is greater than their own life.

I for one would not die for my country. I believe my life is more important than my country, to me.

I wanted to, but I have a history of asthma and they wouldn't take me. Nothing like seeing a bunch of skinny bitches that can't do one pull-up get in while I'm pushin close to 300 on the PFT. If they asked me now I probably wouldn't, at least not until after I graduate. Only one semester left! :thumbsup::beer:

whats a PFT? :D


Physical Fitness Test

 

CVSiN

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Jul 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: OOBradm
In response to the Marine recruiter thread, im curious to see how many people have the attitude that their country is greater than their own life.

I for one would not die for my country. I believe my life is more important than my country, to me.

10 years ago maybe...
not todays America.. todays america makes me sick.. freaking closet facists...
the new SS is here.. and GW is the Gestopo leader.
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
10 years ago maybe...
not todays America.. todays america makes me sick.. freaking closet facists...
the new SS is here.. and GW is the Gestopo leader.

:disgust:

100% of people who argue politics don't know wtf they are talking about.
 

her209

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Oct 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Malak
Originally posted by: CVSiN
10 years ago maybe...
not todays America.. todays america makes me sick.. freaking closet facists...
the new SS is here.. and GW is the Gestopo leader.
:disgust:

100% of people who argue politics don't know wtf they are talking about.
Vote for me or you'll die from terrorists.
 

j00fek

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if another war like WWII came around i would, but not an atrocity like iraq no
 

DaShen

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Depends on the cause of the fight. If the cause is a noble cause, then yes. If it is an obvious pursuit of power, then no.