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Would you die for your country?

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OOBradm

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In response to the Marine recruiter thread, im curious to see how many people have the attitude that their country is greater than their own life.

I for one would not die for my country. I believe my life is more important than my country, to me.
 
I would fight for my country if they really needed me, I wouldn't just give my life up though, I'd go down fighting...
 
Originally posted by: OOBradm
In response to the Marine recruiter thread, im curious to see how many people have the attitude that their country is greater than their own life.

I for one would not die for my country. I believe my life is more important than my country, to me.
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that's a very selfish & narrow-minded little stance you've got there mate.
 
You mean if there was a draft and I my number was picked?

I'd do my damnedest not too, but if it came down to that I would.

If I had TS information that would jeopardize National Security and possibly lead to the loss of hundreds of thousands of US lives? I'd die before willingly giving up the information.
 
I'm currently enlisted, so I don't have a choice. And as much as my wife jokes about the $400k, she would miss me.
 
Depends on how you define "country". I'd die to defend my friends and family and thier homeland. I wouldn't die in a foreign land on some "nation-building" mission or other such crap based on the wishes of a few dozen people in positions of power.
 
Think about it this way ----

say you were born in a different country, and that country was on the opposing side of a war than the country you live in now....
If you say you would die for your country, its a little bit baseless because all that matters is where you were born.

Now, if you say you would die for your country because you believe in what your country stands for, then imo thats something different --
thats fighting for your beliefs, and I would die for what I believe in. But, If I do not agree with the what my country is fighting for, then why die
for it, just because you were born there?
 
Originally posted by: notfred
Depends on how you define "country". I'd die to defend my friends and family and thier homeland. I wouldn't die in a foreign land on some "nation-building" mission or other such crap based on the wishes of a few dozen people in positions of power.
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Yeah, it depends on the situation. If it was a truly justified cause, and fighting was the only way, then yes.
 
Originally posted by: OOBradm
Think about it this way ----

say you were born in a different country, and that country was on the opposing side of a war than the country you live in now....
If you say you would die for your country, its a little bit baseless because all that matters is where you were born.

Now, if you say you would die for your country because you believe in what your country stands for, then imo thats something different --
thats fighting for your beliefs, and I would die for what I believe in. But, If I do not agree with the what my country is fighting for, then why die
for it, just because you were born there?
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Do you value all the opportunities, freedoms, and privileges your country grants you?

If so, and you wouldn't die for your country, you're simply a free-loader. I'm not saying you should go and enlist as a result of this, but if there was a draft, I don't see how you could justify dodging.
 
Depends
If my country was being invaded and imperialised then yes.
If we are going across the ocean to invade someoen else, no.
 
Originally posted by: notfred
Depends on how you define "country". I'd die to defend my friends and family and thier homeland. I wouldn't die in a foreign land on some "nation-building" mission or other such crap based on the wishes of a few dozen people in positions of power.
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Yep
 
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: OOBradm
Think about it this way ----

say you were born in a different country, and that country was on the opposing side of a war than the country you live in now....
If you say you would die for your country, its a little bit baseless because all that matters is where you were born.

Now, if you say you would die for your country because you believe in what your country stands for, then imo thats something different --
thats fighting for your beliefs, and I would die for what I believe in. But, If I do not agree with the what my country is fighting for, then why die
for it, just because you were born there?
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Do you value all the opportunities, freedoms, and privileges your country grants you?

If so, and you wouldn't die for your country, you're simply a free-loader. I'm not saying you should go and enlist as a result of this, but if there was a draft, I don't see how you could justify dodging.
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Those 2 things don't go hand in hand as easily as you'd make them out to.
 
Not worth giving up your life for your country. Specially true if you decide to migrate to another 1 later on 😛
 
Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: OOBradm
Think about it this way ----

say you were born in a different country, and that country was on the opposing side of a war than the country you live in now....
If you say you would die for your country, its a little bit baseless because all that matters is where you were born.

Now, if you say you would die for your country because you believe in what your country stands for, then imo thats something different --
thats fighting for your beliefs, and I would die for what I believe in. But, If I do not agree with the what my country is fighting for, then why die
for it, just because you were born there?
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Do you value all the opportunities, freedoms, and privileges your country grants you?

If so, and you wouldn't die for your country, you're simply a free-loader. I'm not saying you should go and enlist as a result of this, but if there was a draft, I don't see how you could justify dodging.
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Those 2 things don't go hand in hand as easily as you'd make them out to.
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Nope, it;s cut & dried as i see it.

the poll result is pathetic.

i'd imagine it's mainly spotty little nerds who care about nothing except their computer & wang.
 
Depends. I'd probably die for its values but if this country becomes no better than any other country then I'd have no reason to do so.
 
Originally posted by: dug777
Nope, it;s cut & dried as i see it.

the poll result is pathetic.

i'd imagine it's mainly spotty little nerds who care about nothing except their computer & wang.
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He obviously sees it differently.
 
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: dug777
Nope, it;s cut & dried as i see it.

the poll result is pathetic.

i'd imagine it's mainly spotty little nerds who care about nothing except their computer & wang.
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He obviously sees it differently.
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i can't see how you can justify saying you would not be willing to die defending your homeland and way of life. It's that simple.
 
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