Worst movie ever?

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busydude

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look at the budgets and revenues and say they aren't mainstream movies

LOL... Sixth sense surprised a lot of folks.. and that carried on the next two movies, IIRC. Anyway, he is far from the worst.

IMO, he should move away from Hollywood and start making some decent indie movies.
 

KeithTalent

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I actually think Unbreakable is pretty freaking awesome. I have not watched it in quite a while though, so I may just be remembering it fondly. I'll have to fire up the Blu one of these days.

KT
 

HumblePie

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I can't tell you the worst because there are plenty of really bad ones out there. But I can tell you some ones that really made me want to vomit.

- Anything with Will Ferrel as stated.
- Napolean Dynamite
- Anything that tries to make "fun" of something in a stupidly satirical way except the first Naked Gun, that had some humor to it.
- Pretty much most of the old black and white movies. Ever watch some of those? Some are plain horrid trash. There are some good one though, but they are rare.
- Mission To Mars
- Ultra Violet
- Most of the overly religious movies that feel like a bad sunday school play
- Much of the lower budgeted sequels to border line aciton, horror, or sci fi movies such as Starship Troopers 3 Marauders, or Species 3.
- Anything with the title Ernest Goes to...
- Anything with the title National Lampoons... (except the first one with Chevy Chase)



Don't get me wrong. I like some goofy, low budget, and/or campy films. While none of them are great works of filmography, they can be fun and enjoyable to watch. I used to spend much of my time watching tons of the stupid old films that used to play on USA up all night. I've gone through tons of crap on Netflix. There are probably a ton more I would add to that list if I thought it through longer, but those are some pretty bad movies over all.
 

QuantumPion

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Obviously you guys have never seen any syfy original movies. Those are eye-gougingly horrible. And there are a shit load of them.
 

slayer202

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LOL... Sixth sense surprised a lot of folks.. and that carried on the next two movies, IIRC. Anyway, he is far from the worst.

IMO, he should move away from Hollywood and start making some decent indie movies.

sure it surprised people, it was a huge hit from a guy no one knew. but the budget was still 40 million with a big name star and the revenue was crazy. The rest of his movies had budgets near 70 million. that's mainstream...and even with people hating on him they all did huge numbers(minus lady in the water). the mainstream viewer will go see what the commercials tell him
 

QuantumPion

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Starship Troopers 3

omg they made a third one? I remember watching the second one in college for "fun". Five minutes into it and I was fully expecting zombie Heinlein to bust down the door and personally throw the tv out the window.
 

ZOOYUKA

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I actually think Unbreakable is pretty freaking awesome. I have not watched it in quite a while though, so I may just be remembering it fondly. I'll have to fire up the Blu one of these days.

KT

I agree. I really wish they would've completed the trilogy they originally planned to do.
 

gothamhunter

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Pocket Ninjas. I decided to watch it because it was on the IMDB list for the worst movie ever made. They were right.
 

Daverino

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it is one of the greatest films ever. Terrance Malick is not accessible to everyone, and certainly not the most casual of film goers, but this is one of his most brilliant films.

His is a highly narrative structure and very unusual for the typical film. One has to approach his stuff with a different mood, and very different expectations. The dialogue is in fact, absolutely brilliant and far beyond what you might expect from some high school pseudo philosopher.

But yeah, if you went in expecting "Bang-Bang-Shoot-Shoot War Fucking Rocks!" then you would certainly be dissappointed in encountering something more cerebral and relevant than the typical fare.

Here's the problem: It is entirely unbelievable. I mean seriously, read over some of the quotes from the movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120863/quotes and imagine a 19 year old GI in the Pacific actually stating or even thinking them.

"Love. Where does it come from? Who lit this flame in us? No war can put it out, conquer it. I was a prisoner. You set me free."

"Where is it that we were together? Who were you that I lived with? The brother. The friend. Darkness, light. Strife and love. Are they the workings of one mind? The features of the same face? Oh, my soul. Let me be in you now. Look out through my eyes. Look out at the things you made. All things shining."

"Shut up in a tomb. Can't lift the lid. Playing a role I never conceived."

and so on. It doesn't work for me, sorry.

I understand that the movie is a mortality play that is merely set in WWII and has little to do with the war or even the soldiers. But for that matter, 'Apocalypse Now' had nothing to do with the Vietnam War and 'Paths to Glory' had nothing to do with WWI. In the case of the former we're even working on a level of absurdity parallel to The Thin Red Line. But both the Coppola and Kubrick films sell the setting, even make it critical. Malick uses his setting as a trick, a joke. The incoherency between the setting and the thoughts and actions of the participants is not meant to be believable but Malick thinks we need to hit repeatedly in the jaw with a sledgehammer to 'get it.' So instead of a thoughtful film, I see a 'listen to men thinking absurdly deep thoughts in an absurd setting' over and over and over and over and. . .

War is a great foil for directors because it is such a powerful backdrop. Spielberg's 'Saving Private Ryan' used gritty realism to cover up the blatant jingoism he was selling, much in contrast to 'Band of Brothers' which did everything right that 'Ryan' got wrong. 'Ryan' stuns you and only maybe, in later reflection, can you think about the movie as a movie. I at least give credit to Spielberg for using war to mask the adequacy of 'Ryan' where in Malick's case it just emphasizes the flaws.
 

SagaLore

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Titanic 2. If you have Netflix, read the viewer comments... it's just bad. The CGI is comical.

LOL, WTF?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_II

In April 2012, 100 years after the sinking of the RMS Titanic, a new, similar-looking luxury cruise liner named the SS Titanic II is christened. It then embarks on her maiden voyage using the same route the Titanic took 100 years before in reverse direction (from New York City to Southampton, England).
During the Atlantic crossing, the effects of global warming cause the Helheim glacier in Greenland to collapse, creating a 800mph tsunami that sends an iceberg crashing into the Titanic II. The entire starboard side of the ship is crushed and immense pressure is put on the liner's turbines. As people struggle against the rising waters and run for the submarine-shaped lifeboats, the turbines eventually explode, causing an immense fire inside the listing and sinking vessel.
Hours later, another tsunami, this one more powerful and faster than the speed of sound, caused by a second collapse of the Helheim glacier hits the liner, flipping it upside-down and drowning the people still on board and killing all the passengers in the lifeboats. With most of the ship flooded, the Titanic II finally sinks.
The protagonists, ship owner Hayden Walsh and nurses Amy Maine and Kelly Wade, survive, having stayed aboard the ship instead of going for the lifeboats as Amy's father, U.S. Coast Guard Captain James Maine, had ordered. Kelly is later killed when a very heavy door crushes her torso while she is trying to make it through and the ship's diving facility only has one oxygen tank, which Hayden gives to Amy. Before sacrificing his life for her, Hayden kisses Amy and with his last words tells her to resuscitate him should he drown before they are rescued. Captain Maine rescues them both, but Hayden has drowned by the time Maine reaches the pair. Despite his dying wish of being resuscitated, once they are in the emergency rescue raft, Amy attempts to save Hayden's life but he wasn't able to be resuscitated, leaving Amy and an unknown number of injured passengers who Hayden ordered his helicopter to take earlier in the film, as the only known survivors of the disaster.

LOLOLOL!
 

AstroManLuca

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- Anything that tries to make "fun" of something in a stupidly satirical way except the first Naked Gun, that had some humor to it.

This, there are a ton of parody movies out there that would be funny as a 5-minute sketch but not as a 90+ minute movie.
 

zinfamous

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- Anything with the title National Lampoons... (except the first one with Chevy Chase)


A'hem:

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:colbert:
 

zinfamous

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Here's the problem: It is entirely unbelievable. I mean seriously, read over some of the quotes from the movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120863/quotes and imagine a 19 year old GI in the Pacific actually stating or even thinking them.

"Love. Where does it come from? Who lit this flame in us? No war can put it out, conquer it. I was a prisoner. You set me free."

"Where is it that we were together? Who were you that I lived with? The brother. The friend. Darkness, light. Strife and love. Are they the workings of one mind? The features of the same face? Oh, my soul. Let me be in you now. Look out through my eyes. Look out at the things you made. All things shining."

"Shut up in a tomb. Can't lift the lid. Playing a role I never conceived."

and so on. It doesn't work for me, sorry.

I understand that the movie is a mortality play that is merely set in WWII and has little to do with the war or even the soldiers. But for that matter, 'Apocalypse Now' had nothing to do with the Vietnam War and 'Paths to Glory' had nothing to do with WWI. In the case of the former we're even working on a level of absurdity parallel to The Thin Red Line. But both the Coppola and Kubrick films sell the setting, even make it critical. Malick uses his setting as a trick, a joke. The incoherency between the setting and the thoughts and actions of the participants is not meant to be believable but Malick thinks we need to hit repeatedly in the jaw with a sledgehammer to 'get it.' So instead of a thoughtful film, I see a 'listen to men thinking absurdly deep thoughts in an absurd setting' over and over and over and over and. . .

War is a great foil for directors because it is such a powerful backdrop. Spielberg's 'Saving Private Ryan' used gritty realism to cover up the blatant jingoism he was selling, much in contrast to 'Band of Brothers' which did everything right that 'Ryan' got wrong. 'Ryan' stuns you and only maybe, in later reflection, can you think about the movie as a movie. I at least give credit to Spielberg for using war to mask the adequacy of 'Ryan' where in Malick's case it just emphasizes the flaws.


Now I think those are very valid criticisms. I do often think of TTRL as an excellent War film, but it really isn't a War film. It is an allegory on life and morality and while the narrative in this film may be a bit cumbersome or misplaced for the setting, I do think War serves as the perfect backdrop for such themes.

On its own, I think it's fair to challenge its realism, the dialogue as spoken by these individuals--though, don't so easily discredit the thoughtfulness of young soldiers serving a generation or two prior to this one. Yesterday's soldiers are not today's soldiers (well, yesterdays men are not today's men and women--compare letters written by Gulf War and Iraq/Afghanistan servicemen to those written by the same rank and file serving in WW2, WW1, and earlier).

Again--one should try to criticize individual films on their own, but sometimes you deal with authors that make such analysis difficult; and Malick is one of those. From film to film, you notice the exact same voice, and it simply doesn't matter who is speaking it--what station in life they find themselves or what age. Yes, perhaps it's odd to see a young soldier, or even young child (Tree of Life) to speak with the same voice of seasoned adult, though with perhaps a bit less experience. That can be off-putting, but I simply accept that as Malick's voice. He simply uses his characters to speak through them. Plenty of people dislike that sort of thing, but it isn't unusual for some of the best contemporary writers, either.

I think of Don DeLillo, one of my favorites, and his style is very similar. Extremely narrative, contemplative, an ever-present sense of dread--or maybe awareness of mortality--and all characters speaking with the same exact voice. It's odd, yeah, but these works tend to exist as general theses disseminated through film or novel structure.

DeLillo is one of those guys that deconstructs traditional narrative and plotting, just like Malick does in film. Sure--it is not your typical Hollywood fare, but I thought we were all generally sick of that structure anyway, right?

The Thin Red Line exists in the same space as Malick's other work: displaced moral ponderers struggling to exist in a world, and in a time, where they never seem to fit. The only thing that ever changes is the setting: Montana Badlands, Texas farmstead, the Pacific Theater, the Jamestown settlement, or 1950s suburban utopia.
 

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Worst movie I've ever seen was Observe and Report. I would have walked out and demanded my money back but I thought my wife really wanted to see it. Turns out she thought it was the worst movie ever and wanted to leave as well but she thought I really wanted to see it...
 

KeithTalent

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Worst movie I've ever seen was Observe and Report. I would have walked out and demanded my money back but I thought my wife really wanted to see it. Turns out she thought it was the worst movie ever and wanted to leave as well but she thought I really wanted to see it...

One of the best comedies of the past 10 years. :thumbsup:

KT
 

ShawnD1

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Ah, this was about The American.

it definitely wasn't what I expected--I thought more fast-paced spy type flick, but then I didn't know anything about Clooney's character before going into it. Understanding his character, the film and pacing is quite perfect.

The same thing happened with Fight Club. The people doing the advertisements for that must have been retarded. It looked like some kind of cheesy action movie or something. It sucked major ass at the box office even though it's universally recognized as a good movie. 8.8 on IMDB