How the mighty have fallen.
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I used to respect your knowledge, BFG, now you're just a parody. You've gone completely fan boy.
Where to begin?
ATi fans? I'm not the one producing a soap opera around the 5800. What's your next 5800 thread going to be called, "my 5800's fan spun up for the first time today?"
Pardon me for living BFG. I was happy to finally get a 5800 Ultra, which I've wanted to try for a year.
So there are no resolutions between 1600 x 1200 and 1024 x 768?
The stupidity of your logic is increasing every day Rollo.
The question was asked why don't I play at 1600X1200. I responded to it. With your "logic", should I have told him why I don't play at 12X10?
Again Rollo, what happened to 1152 x 864 and 1280 x 960? Did those resolutions slip away from your reality?
Again, no one asked about them, and even if they did, I was responding to a post I quoted about 16X12?
Or wait, don't tell me: there's no difference between them and 1024 x 768 so that means they don't count, right?
I never said that, why are you implying I did?
Not only that but your own links show that your previous card - the 9800 Pro - is beating the 5800 Ultra at the very same settings you use. So after coming back here to proclaim equality when the benchmarks clearly show otherwise, you start accusing me of loosing touch with reality?
I am accusing you BFG. You are right in that the links I posted show the 9800Pro beating the 5800 Ultra at the resolutions I play at. You'll note;however, I said in my original post I can't tell the difference, not that my 5800 Ultra beats the 9800Pro?
Could
you tell the difference BFG? In my link, at my settings, the 9800 Pro is running at 78.2 average fps and the 5800 Ultra is at 71.1 fps. (your 9700Pro trails at 69.6 BTW) Too close to call with no counter on, ol buddy.
Another thing of interest :- first your 9700 Pro was too slow at 1024 x 768 with 0xAA and 0xAF. Then you picked up your first 5800 Ultra and your preferred setting mysteriously increased to 4xAA and 4xAF. Then after complaining about your 9800 Pro being too slow you again came back to a 5800 Ultra and your setting has yet again increased to 4xAA and 8xAF.
You've said this a lot of times, and I've never understood why. A. I said my 9700 Pro was too slow to run at the settings you wanted me to run it at.(inexplicably- you'll note I've never told you what settings to use) and at the time I was playing 10X7 0X0X. I had a 19" monitor then and a XP1600+, followed be a P4 2.53. I only played online, ands wanted the fastest framerates possible. B. I only ran the 5800 (OCd to Ultra speed) with the AA/AF settings to prove to you it could do it about as fast as your 9700Pro, which you doubted for unknown reasons.
Because he's trolling that's why.
How am I "trolling" BFG? I paid $212. shipped for a 5800 that turned out to be DOA and got stiffed by the college kid who sold it to me. I traded my excellent 9800Pro that I paid $379 for to get a 5800U, a rare card I've wanted for over a year. You don't think that's worth a post? Who made you the post police? I didn't post any flame bait, I only posted I like my new card and that for the way I use it, it's been about as good.
Because that's exactly the logic that Rollo uses - use CPU limited resolutions to make ridiculous claims to try to justify his purchases.
Of course, you still haven't bothered to prove that 10X7X32 4X8X is a cpu limited situation by showing some cards that are below the 5800/9700 level perform the same at that setting, you just keep saying it is like a tape recorder. I say you don't prove it because you
can't
It's also generally accepted that the 5800 is a failure and that nobody would want to trade it for a 9700/9800. So where does that leave us then
The 5800 has a following. Like I said, are there any other cards at 500Mhz GPU? No. Any others with 1.8ns DDR2? No. Any others with that elaborate heatpipe system the brings cool air in, blows heated air out? No.
Beyond that, why am I "nobody"? I went to college a few times, work at a big company in IS, try to be a good husband/father/neighbor in my suburb? I earned the money for the cards, why do care if I buy them? Are you the board police on who should buy what cards now too?
That disparity doesn't make the 5800 equal to the 9800.
No, but at 10X7, 4X8X, the 5800 Ultra is the functional equivalent of a 9800 Pro at UT2003. No other card in the world that doesn't have a 9700/9800/5900 can make that claim, so it's in the top few cards.
If you care about public opinion then you'd have to conclude that Rollo's behaviour is both illogical and abnormal. So which is it?
You're pretty good at ignoring whatever contradicts you. There are people in this thread who understand my trade.
More importantly, what is this vendetta you have against me and my cards? Does it anger you that much that I'd trade a better card than you have for one you consider not as good? Why?
It's a free country BFG. I'm starting to think you're the video card Taliban.
