Womens health and recent health insurance changes

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Texashiker

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And there you go again with the boilerplate rhetoric. The root issue here is birth control, aka pregnancy avoidance, aka screwing without getting knocked up. All the "health issues" bullshit is just a convenient detour.

Rather than slinging insults, why dont you answer my question other people are avoiding?

She wants a form of long term / permanent birth control, but can not afford a tubal.

If she has another child her income guidelines will go up, will be able to get on welfare and the government will tie her tubes with your tax money.

But then, the tax payers will be paying for another delivery and a tubal.

Guess what, with the higher income guidelines the family will probably get food stamps, reduced or free school lunches, free glasses, free dental, free medicaid,,,, and any other benefits the government will give her.
 
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Munky

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Rather than slinging insults, why dont you answer my question other people are avoiding?

She wants a form of long term / permanent birth control, but can not afford a tubal.

If she has another child her income guidelines will go up, will be able to get on welfare and the government will tie her tubes with your tax money.

But then, the tax payers will be paying for another delivery and a tubal.

Guess what, with the higher income guidelines the family will probably get food stamps, reduced or free school lunches, free glasses, free dental, free medicaid,,,, and any other benefits the government will give her.

That the system allows one to be a parasite to society by popping out kids is a shame indeed, but I didn't make the rules. The credit for that goes to politicians.
As far as avoiding kids, there are plenty of BC options. Hell, if it was a man, he'd be told "keep it in your pants." Likewise, she can keep her legs closed.
 

michal1980

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Do you realize how dumb that post sounds?

Condoms are effective in preventing all kinds of sexually transmitted diseases.




Did you see my post about welfare moms having more kids than they can afford?

Since my post are so stupid, you tell me what a low income mother i supposed to do? She can not afford to have more kids, nor can she afford permanent birth control such as a tubal.

One option is to have another child, which will increase the income guidelines, get on welfare and let the government pay for her tubal.

So what say you?

I know it sucks there is only one form of birth control (tubes tide).

If only there were other cheaper options.






God you are fucking stupid. Its a shame you actually breed. and by the sounds of it, your kid did not fall far from the tree.
 

alzan

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That the system allows one to be a parasite to society by popping out kids is a shame indeed, but I didn't make the rules. The credit for that goes to politicians.
As far as avoiding kids, there are plenty of BC options. Hell, if it was a man, he'd be told "keep it in your pants." Likewise, she can keep her legs closed.

I already gave him the perfect advice for his stepdaughter; oral and/or anal sex and mutual masturbation.

Maybe he and/or his stepdaughter can't/don't understand the concept.
 

MrPickins

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tubes tide?

sand-mason-tubes-exposed-at-low-tide.jpg



;)
 

OverVolt

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I know it sucks there is only one form of birth control (tubes tide).

If only there were other cheaper options.






God you are fucking stupid. Its a shame you actually breed. and by the sounds of it, your kid did not fall far from the tree.
Yea he and his family are probably out-breeding yours like 2:1. Who is the stupid one then? :p
 

allisolm

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This is what Texashiker said in another thread:

"We are all responsible for our actions. There are all kinds of birth control options out there for women, use them."

/thread
 

Texashiker

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This is what Texashiker said in another thread:

"We are all responsible for our actions. There are all kinds of birth control options out there for women, use them."

And I stand by those words.

I just wish women had a choice not to be bound to using birth control. That they could be liberated from yearly visits to the doctor and could get away from embarrassing pap smears.

If a woman is married, in a committed relationship, HPV negative, there is no reason to have a yearly pap smear. But yet they have been convinced otherwise.
 

boomerang

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Your step-daughter would have been eligible for a no cost tubal ligation if Obama had not by executive fiat delayed the employer mandate in Obamacare unless your employer is providing a grandfathered plan.

http://healthinsurance.about.com/od...maximize-Your-Affordable-Care-Act-Benefit.htm

Which Types of Birth Control Are Free?
Health plans should provide the full range of Food and Drug Administration approved contraceptive methods. This includes

http://insurance.about.com/od/healthgloss/g/Grandfathered-Plans.htm

So, you can thank Obama.
 

allisolm

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I just wish women had a choice not to be bound to using birth control. That they could be liberated from yearly visits to the doctor and could get away from embarrassing pap smears.

If a woman is married, in a committed relationship, HPV negative, there is no reason to have a yearly pap smear. But yet they have been convinced otherwise.

Not that any of that has anything to do with this thread, but the medical profession said in 2012 that every 3-5 years is the standard of care for pap smears depending on conditions/age. Unfortunately reeducation takes time for some doctors.
 

TheVrolok

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Not that any of that has anything to do with this thread, but the medical profession said in 2012 that every 3-5 years is the standard of care for pap smears depending on conditions/age. Unfortunately reeducation takes time for some doctors.

My experience is that many OBGYNs just don't care about those recs and tend to annual paps because, "that's what we do." Evidence based medicine is for sissies.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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My experience is that many OBGYNs just don't care about those recs and tend to annual paps because, "that's what we do." Evidence based medicine is for sissies.

Requiring evidence for things which ought to be weighed in such terms really isn't done and goes far far beyond medicine, but you know that :D
 

berzerker60

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And I stand by those words.

I just wish women had a choice not to be bound to using birth control. That they could be liberated from yearly visits to the doctor and could get away from embarrassing pap smears.

If a woman is married, in a committed relationship, HPV negative, there is no reason to have a yearly pap smear. But yet they have been convinced otherwise.
Birth control being prescription isn't the norm internationally, it's the result of Americans being childish and prudish about anything relating to sex. If it was over-the-counter you wouldn't need a doctor visit for that. But we've got to make sure girls don't get birth control without parents' consent! That's way more important than preventing her from getting pregnant without her parents' consent!
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Birth control being prescription isn't the norm internationally, it's the result of Americans being childish and prudish about anything relating to sex. If it was over-the-counter you wouldn't need a doctor visit for that. But we've got to make sure girls don't get birth control without parents' consent! That's way more important than preventing her from getting pregnant without her parents' consent!

I don't know where you live but minors have been getting easy access to free means of birth control for a very very long time in a great many places.
 

rudeguy

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I don't know where you live but minors have been getting easy access to free means of birth control for a very very long time in a great many places.

He lives in the land of make believe.

Some people on here...
Well they...

/Shakes head me walks away
 

Exophase

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Clearly the government should also fully cover a hysterectomy if that's her preferred method of permanent birth control. Why are you all so intent on controlling women by not paying for their arbitrarily expensive and excessive surgeries?
 

Nebor

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And I stand by those words.

I just wish women had a choice not to be bound to using birth control. That they could be liberated from yearly visits to the doctor and could get away from embarrassing pap smears.

If a woman is married, in a committed relationship, HPV negative, there is no reason to have a yearly pap smear. But yet they have been convinced otherwise.

They've also been convinced that there's a 25% chance they'll be raped in their lifetime, and that they make 25% less than a man who does their same job. Women are eager to believe anyone telling them they are, or might be a victim.
 

TheVrolok

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Clearly the government should also fully cover a hysterectomy if that's her preferred method of permanent birth control. Why are you all so intent on controlling women by not paying for their arbitrarily expensive and excessive surgeries?

He needs to make sure the government provides for his stepdaughter and her poor life choices.