Womens health and recent health insurance changes

[MrPickins]

What's wrong with an IUD? They're relatively cheap, effective and last for years.

 

[SheHateMe]

Isn't tubal ligation considered an elective surgery? She should pay out of her own pocket....or use her brain and figure out how cheaper methods can keep her from getting pregnant.

 

[Texashiker]

What's wrong with an IUD? They're relatively cheap, effective and last for years.

There is nothing wrong with and IUD, she already has one.

That question is part of the problem. Why can't women have access to the options they want?

If a woman wants a tubal, shouldn't it be affordable and easy to get?

 

[theeedude]

Texas GOP is blocking the state from going broke when the federal grants run out.

When the grants run out and states have fund their own medicaid expansion, you will be singing a different tune. Some blue states are already rethinking their medicaid expansion.

Well, good for you then. If you don't want ACA's expanded benefits in your state, then don't complain about it not covering your daughter.
Medicaid grants would only "run out" if GOP cuts them at the federal level. So you can write a thank you note to Texas GOP from saving you from Medicaid cuts by US GOP, by not giving your daughter expanded Medicaid in the first place. I am sure they will appreciate your sacrifice of your daughter's health for their political goals.

 

[chowderhead]

There is nothing wrong with and IUD, she already has one.

That question is part of the problem. Why can't women have access to the options they want?

If a woman wants a tubal, shouldn't it be affordable and easy to get?

This is a troll thread.

 

[Phanuel]

There is nothing wrong with and IUD, she already has one.

That question is part of the problem. Why can't women have access to the options they want?

If a woman wants a tubal, shouldn't it be affordable and easy to get?

Why can't men get access to the options they want? I want a harem of hot babes all to myself.


Tell her to use condoms and the pill and perhaps the morning after pill if she somehow becomes a statistic while using the inexpensive and commonly available BC options available to her.

And you wonder why you're treated like an idiot around here...

 

[Texashiker]

Medicaid grants would only "run out" if GOP cuts them at the federal level.

That is simply not true.

The federal government issued grants to kickstart medicaid expansion. What promise do we have that those grants will keep coming?

Tell her to use condoms and the pill and perhaps the morning after pill if she somehow becomes a statistic while using the inexpensive and commonly available BC options available to her.

Are you male or female?

Who are you to tell her what birth control options she should use?

 

[Daverino]

This is a troll thread.

It's not even a good troll thread. He's basically making all sorts of arguments supporting the ACA which I'm pretty sure is 180 degrees from what he wanted to do.

 

[Texashiker]

It's not even a good troll thread. He's basically making all sorts of arguments supporting the ACA which I'm pretty sure is 180 degrees from what he wanted to do.

Not a troll thread.

I thought the ACA was supposed to provide better coverage of womens health, and offer affordable options.

If you had a grown daughter you would not be calling this a troll thread.

 

[SheHateMe]

That question is part of the problem. Why can't women have access to the options they want?

Um...her family can't even afford insurance and you want to know why she can't have luxury options for birth control? She's married with several kids and she's still on her daddy's insurance plan.

What the fuck?

I thought the ACA was supposed to provide better coverage of womens health, and offer affordable options.

I have an Obama Care plan that covers everything I would need.

 

[Texashiker]

Um...her family can't even afford insurance and you want to know why she can't have luxury options for birth control.

What the fuck?

It is called trying to be responsible.

What is she supposed to do? The family has all the children they can afford, but they can not afford a tubal.

Its like a catch 22.

People complain about low income families having so many kids. But permanent birth control options are not an option.

 

[rudeguy]

Not a troll thread.

I thought the ACA was supposed to provide better coverage of womens health, and offer affordable options.

If you had a grown daughter you would not be calling this a troll thread.

Apparently you don't have a grown daughter either. Grown folks pay for their own things.

 

[Phanuel]

Are you male or female?

Take a wild wild guess.

Who are you to tell her what birth control options she should use?

Someone who doesn't have 3 children by age 26 with essentially a deadbeat husband who now wants the most ridiculous of all birth control methods applied to themselves.

But what I don't get is based on how conservative you are you aren't just preaching abstinence to her as the preferred method by god of solving this problem.

 

[MrPickins]

There is nothing wrong with and IUD, she already has one.

That question is part of the problem. Why can't women have access to the options they want?

If a woman wants a tubal, shouldn't it be affordable and easy to get?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S94ohyErSw

 

[SheHateMe]

It is called trying to be responsible.

What is she supposed to do? The family has all the children they can afford, but they can not afford a tubal.

Its like a catch 22.

People complain about low income families having so many kids. But permanent birth control options are not an option.

How is it responsible that she has several kids and neither parent can afford to insure their family?

Tubal Ligation is elective. You don't NEED to get your tubes tied.


Why don't you and your wife just pay for her to get it done?

 

[desy]

Doctors will grant vasectomies to males under 40 if they have kids.
Its easy Doctors asks why do you want a vasectomy you are young?
Cause I already have kids I'm done. OK no turning back. I know go ahead anyway.
Worked for everyone of my friends under 40 who asked

 

[Texashiker]

Apparently you don't have a grown daughter either. Grown folks pay for their own things.

My step-daughter is 25, about to be 26.

My daughter is 17, about to be 18 in a couple of months.

Picture of my daughter and I on a camping trip a few years ago. She was laughing because I was hugging a tree, as in a tree hugger.

Take a wild wild guess.

I am going to guess you are a male, and you are used to telling women what to do.

 

[CitizenKain]

Not a troll thread.

I thought the ACA was supposed to provide better coverage of womens health, and offer affordable options.

If you had a grown daughter you would not be calling this a troll thread.

It does, but your stepdaughter apparently never learned about other birth control options and instead got knocked up a bunch with a deadbeat.

 

[nickbits]

There is nothing wrong with and IUD, she already has one.

That question is part of the problem. Why can't women have access to the options they want?

If a woman wants a tubal, shouldn't it be affordable and easy to get?

$1500 is affordable when you consider the surgery probably costs over $10k.

Why can't everyone have everything they want? There has to be a limit somewhere.

Basically you don't think the ACA went far enough for women's health but I think it has gone far enough.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Vasectomy, payment plan. pay it off monthly.

 

[michal1980]

There is nothing wrong with and IUD, she already has one.

That question is part of the problem. Why can't women have access to the options they want?

If a woman wants a tubal, shouldn't it be affordable and easy to get?

they have access.

you just want a handout.

 

[theeedude]

That is simply not true.

The federal government issued grants to kickstart medicaid expansion. What promise do we have that those grants will keep coming?

The ACA law. Unless GOP succeeds in repealing it, the grants will keep coming.
What's interesting to me is you have no problem with using the ACA to make your employer to pay your daughter's insurance bill till she is 26, and even have the audacity to complain that your employer's plan doesn't pay 100% of the tubal ligation cost. But you don't want Texas to pay 0% of the cost of expanding Medicaid insurance for 3 years, and 10% after that. So a much more realistic scenario of your employer going broke over health care bills is preferable to you than Texas paying 0-10%.
Anyways, that $1500 is what's commonly called the "stupid tax." If you are too stupid to vote your own self interest, you pay it. Once your daughter is over 26, that tax is only going to go up. But you'll be saving Texas 0-10% of it, so it's all good!

 

[Daverino]

Not a troll thread.

I thought the ACA was supposed to provide better coverage of womens health, and offer affordable options.

If you had a grown daughter you would not be calling this a troll thread.

But by your OWN ASSERTIONS it did both:
1. It provided better coverage by covering ligations
2. It provided better coverage by allowing your daughter to be on your insurance.
3. It is more affordable, saving you $2,000 to 5,000 dollars.

All of your evidence contradicts your own claims! How is this NOT a troll thread?

 

[nickbits]

Isn't tubal ligation considered an elective surgery? She should pay out of her own pocket....or use her brain and figure out how cheaper methods can keep her from getting pregnant.

Some types of elective surgery are covered. I've had a vasectomy and 4 plastic surgeries that were all covered and all elective. (Note that plastic surgery is not the same thing as cosmetic surgery.)

Granted I'm not sure I support obamacare plans covering those types of surgeries.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

It is called trying to be responsible.

What is she supposed to do? The family has all the children they can afford, but they can not afford a tubal.

Its like a catch 22.

People complain about low income families having so many kids. But permanent birth control options are not an option.

What an appallingly stupid argument. When I was 26, I needed a place to live, but I couldn't afford to buy a house. And it sucked, spending those years living on the streets because there's no other option available for people to live in besides houses that they own themselves. What do you mean "apartment?"

Your daughter is in the champagne on a beer budget crowd. And not even champagne on a beer budget; she wants a '61 Latour on a Moet budget. The ACA makes it easier for women to find birth control options; it doesn't make every single procedure free. And she already has an IUD; what does she need a tubal ligation for at this point?