Yep, you remember last year when Clemens threw a waist-high fastball *over the plate* to Ramirez, and good ole Manny tried to start some sh*t over it? Meanwhile Boston pitchers all but walk up to Yankees hitters, paint a target on them, *then* bean them. I admire that they generally take it in stride, it takes a big person to ignore such juvenility, I'm not sure at all I could do the same in their place.
Yep, you remember last year when Clemens threw a waist-high fastball *over the plate* to Ramirez, and good ole Manny tried to start some sh*t over it? Meanwhile Boston pitchers all but walk up to Yankees hitters, paint a target on them, *then* bean them. I admire that they generally take it in stride, it takes a big person to ignore such juvenility, I'm not sure at all I could do the same in their place.
There's namecalling in this thread. Should I, by that logic, go attack Mill in real life? :disgust:
Arroyo crossed the line, and Varitek followed suit.
Edit: I'd always considered "beaning" an intentional HBP. What you want to call it is immaterial though; terminology changes nothing.
While Ramirez' actions there are not at all admissable, I thought it was generally accepted that Manny turned away and, having no view of the pitch, went on sound... The pitch was high and towards Manny's head. Almost certainly not intentional, but Manny apparently didn't know it.
Originally posted by: RedPickle
MLB.com has the link. Gabe Kapler is a monster. Tayon still took him down. Nuff said.
Very easy to do when your blindsided from behind and put in a chokehold. Typical classless NY Yankee manuever.
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Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: Tremulant
Heh.
My brother is a Boston fan, my dad is a Yankee fan. My dad roots for Manny, cause he's family, but doesn't like seeing the Red Sox win.
I missed the fight
Ha must be fun to be in the family. My brother is a Mets fan, I'm a Yankees fan.
One of my uncles is a Mets fan too. Grandfather is Yankees fan. I just kinda root for whoever, cause I'm not partial to any of the teams. I actually grew up across the street from Flushing Meadows Park in Queens. I could see Shea Stadium from my balcony. The 4th of July fireworks were the best. :beer:
Sorry, your incorrect once again. Please look at that replay again. He curses in one direction (at Arroyo) twice and then upon Varitek stepping up, he then looks at Varitek and says come on. If you need proof I'll do it. But im lazy right now.
There's no getting through to some of you. I'm not gonna go through this entire thread, but did anyone really say 'f u' to you? If so, I would think they would be banned, because that's generally not accepted. And, honestly, under the same circumstances if you were called names and taunted, I doubt you'd have taken it in stride. I think that if Varitek had done nothing, he would be looked at as classy; as it is, what he did was understandable, IMO.
I dunno, looked to me like in between all the talking he turned his head to Varitek's general direction and started spouting obscenities. Even if he was talking to Arroyo (I don't think so, but w/e), it's the same idea, same thing, I woulda done the same in Varitek's place.
The pitch was high but it was no where near Manny's head.
He overreacted like another Boston Wannabe thug.
My point was not that the pitch was inside, but rather that Manny didn't overreact like a 'thug'; more like somebody who had no idea where the pitch was and apparently assumed the worst.
Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Originally posted by: RedPickle
MLB.com has the link. Gabe Kapler is a monster. Tayon still took him down. Nuff said.
Very easy to do when your blindsided from behind and put in a chokehold. Typical classless NY Yankee manuever.
CLASSLESS NY YANKEE MANUEVER??? CLASSLESS? Oh come on, are you serious? How is this classes? Your telling me your going to think about how and where to grab someone in a 60 something man brawl and then on top of that everyone else was grabbing everyone else.
Another thing It's typical though, once a player puts on a Yankee uniform, all of their class seems to go right out the window. What is this supposed to mean? I mean first of all you can NOT be defending Boston in terms of class. They are THE most CLASSLESS team in any sport (Well Next to the TrailBlazers). Second, they don't even shave properly or look decent. You want to talk class? Yankees are required to remain clean cut. You have to realize that EVERYONE wants to start a fight with the Yankees. Remember Armando Benitez when he beaned Tino? Remember the Piazza, Clemens saga? How about John Rocker and New York? Everyone wants to start with us and then come accusing us of being "classless". Please realize this. :roll:
Mills is just annoying. Pretty sad he has 20,000 posts on this forum. I'll safely assume most of his posts have been trash as well.
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Originally posted by: RedPickle
MLB.com has the link. Gabe Kapler is a monster. Tayon still took him down. Nuff said.
Very easy to do when your blindsided from behind and put in a chokehold. Typical classless NY Yankee manuever.
CLASSLESS NY YANKEE MANUEVER??? CLASSLESS? Oh come on, are you serious? How is this classes? Your telling me your going to think about how and where to grab someone in a 60 something man brawl and then on top of that everyone else was grabbing everyone else.
Another thing It's typical though, once a player puts on a Yankee uniform, all of their class seems to go right out the window. What is this supposed to mean? I mean first of all you can NOT be defending Boston in terms of class. They are THE most CLASSLESS team in any sport (Well Next to the TrailBlazers). Second, they don't even shave properly or look decent. You want to talk class? Yankees are required to remain clean cut. You have to realize that EVERYONE wants to start a fight with the Yankees. Remember Armando Benitez when he beaned Tino? Remember the Piazza, Clemens saga? How about John Rocker and New York? Everyone wants to start with us and then come accusing us of being "classless". Please realize this. :roll:
Don't bring the hair into it; IMO, if you think that is a sign of 'class,' you're either way too old-fashoined or biased. Not all NY'ers are classless (I'll say that from personal experience
). But, just as there is no defending the Sox (at times they are classless, but I wouldn't even call them the 'most classless team besides the Trail Blazers'), IMO there is no defending ARod's actions today.The pitch to Manny was over the plate and didn't hit him. The pitch to A-Rod was an intentional HBP. BRS, your argument has no ground to stand on.
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Originally posted by: RedPickle
MLB.com has the link. Gabe Kapler is a monster. Tayon still took him down. Nuff said.
Very easy to do when your blindsided from behind and put in a chokehold. Typical classless NY Yankee manuever.
CLASSLESS NY YANKEE MANUEVER??? CLASSLESS? Oh come on, are you serious? How is this classes? Your telling me your going to think about how and where to grab someone in a 60 something man brawl and then on top of that everyone else was grabbing everyone else.
Another thing It's typical though, once a player puts on a Yankee uniform, all of their class seems to go right out the window. What is this supposed to mean? I mean first of all you can NOT be defending Boston in terms of class. They are THE most CLASSLESS team in any sport (Well Next to the TrailBlazers). Second, they don't even shave properly or look decent. You want to talk class? Yankees are required to remain clean cut. You have to realize that EVERYONE wants to start a fight with the Yankees. Remember Armando Benitez when he beaned Tino? Remember the Piazza, Clemens saga? How about John Rocker and New York? Everyone wants to start with us and then come accusing us of being "classless". Please realize this. :roll:
Who started that whole mess with Clemens and Piazza? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't Piazza. Your Yankees aren't the Guardian Angels you're trying so hard to make them out to be. Please realize this. :roll:
Manny overreacted, and there was no defending that, I said that from the start. All I said is that Manny turned away, did NOT see the pitch, heard it hit the catcher's glove somewhere near his head, and apparently assumed the worst.
Side note... I like how I'm not allowed to assume anything, but yet you guys are allowed to assume that the pitch to ARod was intentional...
Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Originally posted by: RedPickle
MLB.com has the link. Gabe Kapler is a monster. Tayon still took him down. Nuff said.
Very easy to do when your blindsided from behind and put in a chokehold. Typical classless NY Yankee manuever.
CLASSLESS NY YANKEE MANUEVER??? CLASSLESS? Oh come on, are you serious? How is this classes? Your telling me your going to think about how and where to grab someone in a 60 something man brawl and then on top of that everyone else was grabbing everyone else.
Another thing It's typical though, once a player puts on a Yankee uniform, all of their class seems to go right out the window. What is this supposed to mean? I mean first of all you can NOT be defending Boston in terms of class. They are THE most CLASSLESS team in any sport (Well Next to the TrailBlazers). Second, they don't even shave properly or look decent. You want to talk class? Yankees are required to remain clean cut. You have to realize that EVERYONE wants to start a fight with the Yankees. Remember Armando Benitez when he beaned Tino? Remember the Piazza, Clemens saga? How about John Rocker and New York? Everyone wants to start with us and then come accusing us of being "classless". Please realize this. :roll:
Who started that whole mess with Clemens and Piazza? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't Piazza. Your Yankees aren't the Guardian Angels you're trying so hard to make them out to be. Please realize this. :roll:
Clemens isn't a Yankee anymore, and before he was a Yankee he was a Redsox.
Getting hit by a pitch is part of the game, if anyone should know that, it's our classless reigning MVP.
He got thumped in the elbow, big f'n deal. Get over it, and take your base. If you're going to curse the pitcher, do it on the way to first base while staring at the baseline. I think the whole problem is that ARod's ego has him thinking that he can't get hit by pitches because A) He's the highest paid baseball player, and B) He's the reigning MVP. Sorry Alex, doesn't work that way.
Too bad if it was Boston who got hit.. i.e Manny, Damon you'd be talking shlt how Yankees intentionally hit him.
You're right of course, but...
1) Clemens had years and years to hone his beaning techniques, and apparently did, in Boston
2) He wasn't a true Yankee, merely a hired mercenary
Personally I never liked him as a person, although of course his talent is undeniable. I didn't like it when the Yankees signed him and his first year seemed to prove me right, as it was a fairly off year... of course he later came around, but I've never liked him. As baseball is today, players change teams constantly and bad apples are everywhere and get tossed around like hot potatoes. It is uncanny, however, that either so many of them end up on boston, or they become that way after playing for boston.
Ok at least we are keeping this discussion civilized. I agree that what Varitek is something we would all do. But just remember, we can't accuse ARod of "starting" that fight.
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Originally posted by: RedPickle
MLB.com has the link. Gabe Kapler is a monster. Tayon still took him down. Nuff said.
Very easy to do when your blindsided from behind and put in a chokehold. Typical classless NY Yankee manuever.
CLASSLESS NY YANKEE MANUEVER??? CLASSLESS? Oh come on, are you serious? How is this classes? Your telling me your going to think about how and where to grab someone in a 60 something man brawl and then on top of that everyone else was grabbing everyone else.
Another thing It's typical though, once a player puts on a Yankee uniform, all of their class seems to go right out the window. What is this supposed to mean? I mean first of all you can NOT be defending Boston in terms of class. They are THE most CLASSLESS team in any sport (Well Next to the TrailBlazers). Second, they don't even shave properly or look decent. You want to talk class? Yankees are required to remain clean cut. You have to realize that EVERYONE wants to start a fight with the Yankees. Remember Armando Benitez when he beaned Tino? Remember the Piazza, Clemens saga? How about John Rocker and New York? Everyone wants to start with us and then come accusing us of being "classless". Please realize this. :roll:
Who started that whole mess with Clemens and Piazza? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't Piazza. Your Yankees aren't the Guardian Angels you're trying so hard to make them out to be. Please realize this. :roll:
Clemens isn't a Yankee anymore, and before he was a Yankee he was a Redsox.
And your point is..........
Clemens WAS a Yankee when he hit Piazza in the head with a 90MPH fastball. Get that through your thick head.
Edit: Actually, to correct you, before Clemens was a Yankee, he was a Blue Jay.
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