Wisconsin GOP legistators block effort by Democratic Governor to make Tuesday's election safe.

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Morally bankrupt Fox News think's its fine for people to risk their lives during a coronavirus lockdown instead of extending voting to allow vote by mail. Republicans will do anything to suppress the vote.

Fox and the Republican party would never admit that voting and waiting in large lines was wrong even though they wouldn''t do so themselves.
 

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Why did the governor wait until Monday to sign an executive order to postpone the primary? Why didn't he do this much earlier like the other 15 states that were able to delay their primaries?

On March 20, three mayors asked to delay the election. This was Ever's response: “Moving this date is not going to solve the problem,” Evers said. “We could move it to June, it could be worse in June. It could be worse in May.”

On March 30, he was asked if the elections would go on as planned. His response: "Nothing has changed from my vantage point," he said. "We have several lawsuits occurring right now. It's part of state law, it's in state law, the date is set, and we're encouraging lots of people to vote absentee, get online, and make that happen, and people are responding to that. So to answer your question, yes [the election] is in place."
 
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Vic

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Why did the governor wait until Monday to sign an executive order to postpone the primary? Why didn't he do this much earlier like the other 15 states that were able to delay their primaries?

On March 20, three mayors asked to delay the election. This was Ever's response: “Moving this date is not going to solve the problem,” Evers said. “We could move it to June, it could be worse in June. It could be worse in May.”

On March 30, he was asked if the elections would go on as planned. His response: "Nothing has changed from my vantage point," he said. "We have several lawsuits occurring right now. It's part of state law, it's in state law, the date is set, and we're encouraging lots of people to vote absentee, get online, and make that happen, and people are responding to that. So to answer your question, yes [the election] is in place."
Is there any reason to believe the GOP legislature and the courts would have allowed the postponement if the governor had acted sooner?
 

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Is there any reason to believe the GOP legislature and the courts would have allowed the postponement if the governor had acted sooner?

Based on his statements, he wasn't going to act anyway so your question is moot.
 

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Why did the governor wait until Monday to sign an executive order to postpone the primary? Why didn't he do this much earlier like the other 15 states that were able to delay their primaries?

On March 20, three mayors asked to delay the election. This was Ever's response: “Moving this date is not going to solve the problem,” Evers said. “We could move it to June, it could be worse in June. It could be worse in May.”

On March 30, he was asked if the elections would go on as planned. His response: "Nothing has changed from my vantage point," he said. "We have several lawsuits occurring right now. It's part of state law, it's in state law, the date is set, and we're encouraging lots of people to vote absentee, get online, and make that happen, and people are responding to that. So to answer your question, yes [the election] is in place."

 

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You know what is sad? He probably had a good idea of what going to happen when he signed his executive order (see Vic reply #130). Is that why he waited until the last minute to do it? Pretty fucked up to do some political showboating with the health of WI voters at stake...
 

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You know what is sad? He probably had a good idea of what going to happen when he signed his executive order (see Vic reply #130). Is that why he waited until the last minute to do it? Pretty fucked up to do some political showboating with the health of WI voters at stake...

I'm sure he did. What was his other course of action? The idea of signing it in the 11th hour gave some chance for the GOP not to protest in time and the SC not to rule in time. You know what is "ironic"? The SC met and voted via teleconference. Too dangerous (and against the law technically) to meet to discuss and vote on whether or not it was ok for 100s of thousands to meet and vote in person the next day.

Anyways, the point of the article posted shows that Evers did try to call a special session days before and the GOP lead legislature just pissed on it. So he didn't really wait until the last minute. He tried to do something days beforehand, but the GOP decided they'd force his hand and make him sign an EO in the last minute. Now who is "political showboating"?
 
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Again I find myself feeling a great surge of sympathy for Americans in Wisconsin. Republican governance is toxic.

This is why I've been ringing the Vote By Mail bell for months.
 

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I'm sure he did. What was his other course of action? The idea of signing it in the 11th hour gave some chance for the GOP not to protest in time and the SC not to rule in time. You know what is "ironic"? The SC met and voted via teleconference. Too dangerous (and against the law technically) to meet to discuss and vote on whether or not it was ok for 100s of thousands to meet and vote in person the next day.

Anyways, the point of the article posted shows that Evers did try to call a special session days before and the GOP lead legislature just pissed on it. So he didn't really wait until the last minute. He tried to do something days beforehand, but the GOP decided they'd force his hand and make him sign an EO in the last minute. Now who is "political showboating"?

The point of my previous post was why did he not request a special session back in March (as early as March 20 when the two REPUBLICAN and one Democratic mayor wrote a letter asking for a delay)? Based on his statements, he had no desire to move the date, even with lawsuits and requests from other democrats....where is your outrage for that?

On March 30, he even confirmed that the date was not moving.....the ball should have at least started rolling by then given the primary was a week away.
 

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This pretty much sums it up right here:



Suddenly, there was pressure on Governor Evers to delay the election that hadn't been put on him before. And he cracked almost instantly, demanding the very next day that the Republican-controlled Wisconsin Legislature meet in special session on Saturday to craft a bill that would delay the election that legally must occur the first Tuesday after the first Monday in April.

It was the first time he had ever called for a delay...four days before Election Day.

Yeah, it’s late in the game, there’s no question," Evers said Friday. "But it’s things that have been discussed before, people have had time to chew on it. I’m hopeful that common sense will prevail and we’ll be able to get some solutions to this."

Solutions to what, exactly? Evers' own obstinance? For weeks, he had steadfastly refused to delay the election, even when others asked for it and even sued over it. Now, though, he is shamelessly trying to blame Republicans and pretend that he had nothing to do with an election that is moving forward solely because he demanded it.

Yet now that the rest of the country is asking why, he is trying to deflect from the obvious answer: Because Tony Evers wanted this election to move forward.

Until he suddenly didn't.
 

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The Republicans were going to do what they wanted to do regardless of what Tony Evers did or didn't do, don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise. Evers knew he had zero power to change the outcome of the timing of the election, the R's were just waiting to put the screws to him. As I've said, hopefully there's a blue wave nationally and locally in November so we can end this fucking nonsense. I'm sick of living in such a state run by backwards thinking bible thumping uneducated fools.
 

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The Republicans were going to do what they wanted to do regardless of what Tony Evers did or didn't do, don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise. Evers knew he had zero power to change the outcome of the timing of the election, the R's were just waiting to put the screws to him. As I've said, hopefully there's a blue wave nationally and locally in November so we can end this fucking nonsense. I'm sick of living in such a state run by backwards thinking bible thumping uneducated fools.

That still doesn't excuse the democratic governor from not trying to start the process of delaying the election earlier in March...

So again, if he KNEW, why did sign the order then? and why Monday night? And not in March?

Political grandstanding at finest, the voters of WI be damned....and it worked perfectly...just look at this thread...
 

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The Republicans were going to do what they wanted to do regardless of what Tony Evers did or didn't do, don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise. Evers knew he had zero power to change the outcome of the timing of the election, the R's were just waiting to put the screws to him. As I've said, hopefully there's a blue wave nationally and locally in November so we can end this fucking nonsense. I'm sick of living in such a state run by backwards thinking bible thumping uneducated fools.
What bothers me most is their psychopathic ability to blame everyone else for their own actions and believe it. That needs to go before they start killing people.
 
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Your victim blaming is ridiculously dishonest. Just because the governor correctly predicted that the GOP legislature would not allow the election date to be changed does not make him responsible for the GOP legislature doing exactly that. WTF.

Doesn't he have a duty to people of WI to at least request the delay as early as possible, regardless of what the Republicans will do? why is no one here addressing that?

Why was he so dead set on having the primary on April 7? the GOP did not make him say this on March 20: "Moving this date is not going to solve the problem. We could move it to June, it could be worse in June. It could be worse in May."

They also did not make him say this on March 30: "Nothing has changed from my vantage point," he said. "We have several lawsuits occurring right now. It's part of state law, it's in state law, the date is set, and we're encouraging lots of people to vote absentee, get online, and make that happen, and people are responding to that. So to answer your question, yes [the election] is in place."
 

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What bothers me most is their psychopathic ability to blame everyone else for their own actions and believe it. That needs to go before they start killing people.

and yet you don't place any blame at all on the Democratic governor who insisted on not delaying the primary until 4 days beforehand...
 

Vic

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Doesn't he have a duty to people of WI to at least request the delay as early as possible, regardless of what the Republicans will do? why is no one here addressing that?

Why was he so dead set on having the primary on April 7? the GOP did not make him say this on March 20: "Moving this date is not going to solve the problem. We could move it to June, it could be worse in June. It could be worse in May."

They also did not make him say this on March 30: "Nothing has changed from my vantage point," he said. "We have several lawsuits occurring right now. It's part of state law, it's in state law, the date is set, and we're encouraging lots of people to vote absentee, get online, and make that happen, and people are responding to that. So to answer your question, yes [the election] is in place."

Who ultimately made the decision not to postpone the election?
 

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and yet you don't place any blame at all on the Democratic governor who insisted on not delaying the primary until 4 days beforehand...

Evers should have delayed the election sooner. That said even if every single person who voted literally got shot in the face right after the WISGOP was still going to have the election run under these conditions. The people who are willing to sacrifices lives for partisan advantage deserve the blame here.
 

Vic

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and yet you don't place any blame at all on the Democratic governor who insisted on not delaying the primary until 4 days beforehand...
Why would I blame the person who did not make the final decision not to postpone the election? At least he tried, for what good it did.
 

Vic

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Evers should have delayed the election sooner. That said even if every single person who voted literally got shot in the face right after the WISGOP was still going to have the election run under these conditions. The people who are willing to sacrifices lives for partisan advantage deserve the blame here.
Is there any reason to believe that attempting to delay the election sooner would have changed the outcome?
 

K1052

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Is there any reason to believe that attempting to delay the election sooner would have changed the outcome?

Nope and I don't contend that. Purely from a political perspective making the move sooner would have robbed the GOP of this attack. They were going to do this regardless.