Wisconsin GOP legistators block effort by Democratic Governor to make Tuesday's election safe.

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spacejamz

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Why would I blame the person who did not make the final decision not to postpone the election? At least he tried, for what good it did.

Based on his statements, even Evers did not want to delay it, even as late as March 30...how can you dispute that???
 
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skyking

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The official virus response has been evolving.
The official stay at home order for the state of Wisconsin came on the 25th.
 

Vic

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Based on his statements, even Evers did not want to delay it, even as late as March 30...how can you dispute that???
I'm not disputing it, I'm saying it's irrelevant. His reasoning was that the Republicans in control of the legislature would not allow the election to be postponed, even in the face of a pandemic, and he was correct in that regard.
Is this that hard to understand? If the Republicans wanted to postpone the election, they could have done so. They chose not to. That makes them responsible. Obviously.
 
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soundforbjt

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Nope and I don't contend that. Purely from a political perspective making the move sooner would have robbed the GOP of this attack. They were going to do this regardless.
The GOP just would have found another way to attack the Democrats for the Republicans' decision to hold the election despite the stay-at-home order in place.
 

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I'm not disputing it, I'm saying it's irrelevant. His reasoning was that the Republicans in control of the legislature would not allow the election to be postponed, even in the face of a pandemic, and he was correct in that regard.
Is this that hard to understand? If the Republicans wanted to postpone the election, they could have done so. They chose not to. That makes them responsible. Obviously.

Also, it should be noted, Evers did not have the authority to delay the primary election. He knew he didn't, and he has said as much in the past. While I think holding this election within 2 weeks of our current projected peak was stupid, the court made the right ruling in that regard. The state legislature needed to be on board to postpone the election. The EO was issued last minute in hopes to make the legislature reconsider not delaying it. People like spacejamz can call it grandstanding if they want, Evers never had the authority to delay it at any point. As for why Evers changed his mind on delaying the election, hundreds of polling places were closing down, concentrating in person voting to far fewer locations.
 

spacejamz

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I'm not disputing it, I'm saying it's irrelevant. His reasoning was that the Republicans in control of the legislature would not allow the election to be postponed, even in the face of a pandemic, and he was correct in that regard.
Is this that hard to understand? If the Republicans wanted to postpone the election, they could have done so. They chose not to. That makes them responsible. Obviously.

Then why did he not say "ask the Republicans" instead of saying "the date is not changing" when asked if the elections would be delayed??
 

spacejamz

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Also, it should be noted, Evers did not have the authority to delay the primary election. He knew he didn't, and he has said as much in the past.

This is what he said on Mar 20:
"Moving this date is not going to solve the problem. We could move it to June, it could be worse in June. It could be worse in May.

This is what he said on Mar 30:
"Nothing has changed from my vantage point," he said. "We have several lawsuits occurring right now. It's part of state law, it's in state law, the date is set, and we're encouraging lots of people to vote absentee, get online, and make that happen, and people are responding to that. So to answer your question, yes [the election] is in place."
 

PJFrylar

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This is what he said on Mar 20:
"Moving this date is not going to solve the problem. We could move it to June, it could be worse in June. It could be worse in May.

This is what he said on Mar 30:
"Nothing has changed from my vantage point," he said. "We have several lawsuits occurring right now. It's part of state law, it's in state law, the date is set, and we're encouraging lots of people to vote absentee, get online, and make that happen, and people are responding to that. So to answer your question, yes [the election] is in place."
He's made more statements than just those, for a quick example:


I mean if you don't believe him, look at the court ruling on the EO. They ruled he didn't have the authority. Why did the legislature appeal the EO? They knew he didn't have the authority.
 

PJFrylar

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Why didn't he push for a special session in March? why wait until the day before the primary?

I already said. Hundreds of polling places started closing down due to lack of poll workers, concentrating voters to fewer polling places. The situation became worse.
 

HomerJS

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I've called Trump a liar plenty of times. This is you with pointless personal attacks. It says more about you than it does about me. :)
How is that a personal attack? I just said you don't believe Trump is a pathological liar.

Maybe your defense of evil speaks of you. Not hyperbole
 
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and yet you don't place any blame at all on the Democratic governor who insisted on not delaying the primary until 4 days beforehand...

I would place blame on him had the GOP passed legislation and he decided to either vote against it or sit on it. Why? Because that’s his fucking job, just like it was the gop controller state legislatures job to pass laws to allow the vote date to be moved.

We get it though, you have no problem with people not doing their job, it’s why you consistently vote for republicans. What you do have a problem with is people who won’t do the jobs of those who aren’t doing their job. I bet you have that same mentality where you work(ed)./eyeroll
 

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That still doesn't excuse the democratic governor from not trying to start the process of delaying the election earlier in March...

So again, if he KNEW, why did sign the order then? and why Monday night? And not in March?

Political grandstanding at finest, the voters of WI be damned....and it worked perfectly...just look at this thread...

Yea, it does. So you expect only the GOP be allowed to play political games? What if Evers did it to specifically call out the R's being dumbshits on purpose? Are the Dems always supposed to be the ones to do the right things without fail and the other party is just expected to play shenanigans and everyone work around that? Jesus Christ people.
 

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Ordinarily I would not support any one with executive power using it to test whether or not an order they believe to be illegal will hold up or otherwise have some temporary effect or put pressure on someone politically. In this instance, it's the only option he was left with to try and protect the safety of his citizens. That is the one and only exception I can think of, and of course it needs not be utilized haphazardly.
 

spacejamz

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I already said. Hundreds of polling places started closing down due to lack of poll workers, concentrating voters to fewer polling places. The situation became worse.

WTF does that have to do with Evers not trying to call a special session back in March when he was asked MULTIPLE times about delaying the election??
 

soundforbjt

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WTF does that have to do with Evers not trying to call a special session back in March when he was asked MULTIPLE times about delaying the election??
What would you expect the Republican controlled Wisconsin Govt would do if he had ? Serious question.
 

Printed Circuit Bro

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How is that a personal attack? I just said you don't believe Trump is a pathological liar.

Maybe your defense of evil speaks of you. Not hyperbole
Not only do I know Trump is a pathological liar, and have said as much a couple times here regardless of whether you're willing to accept that fact or not.

This is you doubling down.

Have I already moved in to your head and unpacked?
 

Jhhnn

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Why didn’t the GOP do something in March?

Because they never had any intention to do anything other than what they did. Low turnout favors the GOP, always, and they obviously wouldn't let a crisis go to waste. And, hey, they have drive by voting out in posh suburbia & the rural hinterlands, anyway. Much safer than standing in line with the unwashed urban masses.