Windows Longhorn PDC Build 4051 Leaked

[GtPrOjEcTX]

Originally posted by: kuk
I really don't understand the use of the sidebar. Come on, who here wants a constant slideshow of pictures, a huge analog clock (when right underneath it there's a "digital" clock), or whatever junk MS wants to put there. There may be no end to this madness!

yup, I've said it before and I'll say it again, sticking with xp unless MS blows me away with the next OS.

 

[Biggs]

yup, I've said it before and I'll say it again, sticking with xp unless MS blows me away with the next OS.

I'm still sticking with W2K because I like it's minimalist and business-like aspect. It gets the job done without the fancy eye-candy.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Biggs

yup, I've said it before and I'll say it again, sticking with xp unless MS blows me away with the next OS.

I'm still sticking with W2K because I like it's minimalist and business-like aspect. It gets the job done without the fancy eye-candy.

same, all my clients run win2k pro.

 

[GoingUp]

Originally posted by: shuttleteam

I really don't understand the use of the sidebar. Come on, who here wants a constant slideshow of pictures, a huge analog clock (when right underneath it there's a "digital" clock), or whatever junk MS wants to put there. There may be no end to this madness!

A few simple changes to revert back to classic mode. I never could adjust to the Windows XP menu. Classic forever!

OTOH, you would be surprised at how many people prefer the AOL cartoon look, still run 800x600 on a 19" TFT (biggest sin in the book), etc. Unbelievable!

It would be like someone buying a Porsche 911 Turbo as a daily commuter, never getting out of 5th gear or over 60mph.

Cheers!

Yea, it makes web designing a bitch when you have to worry about those 800x600 idiots

 

[StageLeft]

Does this matter? They gave it to 8000 trial testers and they knew, surely, that somebody would copy it. It's unfinished, so who really cares to try it out except people obsessed with the newest thing?

 

[mooojojojo]

Originally posted by: shuttleteamA few simple changes to revert back to classic mode. I never could adjust to the Windows XP menu. Classic forever!

Yeah, but that's what bugs me - why put money and time into making something that 99% of the users will disable anyway. It's just retarded.

Originally posted by: BiggsI'm still sticking with W2K because I like it's minimalist and business-like aspect. It gets the job done without the fancy eye-candy.

I would too if it wasn't for a few nice XP features I quite like - the Digital Camera wizard, the large icon support, support for transparency in the icons, the fact that YZDock only runs under XP, and I actually quite like the blue theme when everything else (animations, tasks in foders and such) is disabled.

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Does this matter? They gave it to 8000 trial testers and they knew, surely, that somebody would copy it. It's unfinished, so who really cares to try it out except people obsessed with the newest thing?

I'm with you. Does anyone here honestly believe that the final version of Longhorn will look anything like those leaked screenshots? It's still over 2 years away!

Originally posted by: mooojojojo
Yeah, but that's what bugs me - why put money and time into making something that 99% of the users will disable anyway. It's just retarded.

Do you think 99% of users disabled XP's new interface features? Interfaces need to evolve, and I'm sure Microsoft spent quite a bit of time and money on researching their UI changes before deciding to implement them. I'm glad they gave the option to revert back to the old style (most computer users don't want to take the time to learn a new interface, even it may be better or more efficient), but I'm also glad they are evolving the Windows interface and trying to improve it.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Does this matter? They gave it to 8000 trial testers and they knew, surely, that somebody would copy it. It's unfinished, so who really cares to try it out except people obsessed with the newest thing?

Why would you bump this just to say that?

 

[Zombie]

that's not a car :Q

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Does this matter? They gave it to 8000 trial testers and they knew, surely, that somebody would copy it. It's unfinished, so who really cares to try it out except people obsessed with the newest thing?

Why would you bump this just to say that?

Am I wrong? I'm just not sure why such a big deal is being made of it. I was using beta versions of win2k well before it was released to the public and I don't remember MS having a fit over it.

These guys don't even have Longhorn source code, so what's the big deal? People paying $2 for a crappy version of an OS wouldn't have paid the $100+ anyway.

 

[RossMAN]

I think I'll stick to XP Pro until I can afford 2GB RAM to run this hunk of love.

I guess by then (2006) 2GB might be the standard.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Does this matter? They gave it to 8000 trial testers and they knew, surely, that somebody would copy it. It's unfinished, so who really cares to try it out except people obsessed with the newest thing?

You must've been bored.

 

[StageLeft]

*shrug* I don't know what was so peculiar about my post.

 

[Snapster]

Maybe the fact that you bumped an ugly on an old topic?

 

[Azraele]

I'm afraid. The IE screenshot....*shudder.*

 

I have a hard enough time running Microsoft operating systems on the first service pack. There is no way in hell I am running a pre-alpha OS. That's nuts.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Snapster
Maybe the fact that you bumped an ugly on an old topic?

Ah I see. unlike some of ya'll myself and apparently a lot of people were oblivious to this news until this morning. The repost sheriff linked us to this thread, so I assumed an up to date discussion was taking place here!

 

[mooojojojo]

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: mooojojojo
Yeah, but that's what bugs me - why put money and time into making something that 99% of the users will disable anyway. It's just retarded.

Do you think 99% of users disabled XP's new interface features? Interfaces need to evolve, and I'm sure Microsoft spent quite a bit of time and money on researching their UI changes before deciding to implement them. I'm glad they gave the option to revert back to the old style (most computer users don't want to take the time to learn a new interface, even it may be better or more efficient), but I'm also glad they are evolving the Windows interface and trying to improve it.

Well you do have a point there. Maybe it's just me and the people around me but I haven't met anyone who would leave the menu in the Default XP layout.
And while you're right on that they spend money, hire usability advisors, pay target groups for researches, etc. I think it all depends on the people involved. And if they are not very good at their jobs, you can get poor results - a bad interface in this particular case. I just find it hard to believe that someone can actully like the XP start menu, or the tasks in folders.

 

[Anubis]

what is tat massive ugly clock thing on the right in thoes pics?? its limiting the browser space

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: Rogue
Am I the only one here that minimizes as much of the toolbars and navigation buttons as I can to maximize viewing area for data or am I a dying breed? The back and address bar in IE7 in those pics takes up like 15-20% of the screen real estate!

I'm like you

as am I i auto hide teh taskbars also

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: mooojojojo

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: mooojojojo
Yeah, but that's what bugs me - why put money and time into making something that 99% of the users will disable anyway. It's just retarded.

Do you think 99% of users disabled XP's new interface features? Interfaces need to evolve, and I'm sure Microsoft spent quite a bit of time and money on researching their UI changes before deciding to implement them. I'm glad they gave the option to revert back to the old style (most computer users don't want to take the time to learn a new interface, even it may be better or more efficient), but I'm also glad they are evolving the Windows interface and trying to improve it.

Well you do have a point there. Maybe it's just me and the people around me but I haven't met anyone who would leave the menu in the Default XP layout.
And while you're right on that they spend money, hire usability advisors, pay target groups for researches, etc. I think it all depends on the people involved. And if they are not very good at their jobs, you can get poor results - a bad interface in this particular case. I just find it hard to believe that someone can actully like the XP start menu, or the tasks in folders.

I don't use the Start Menu very often (I use the Quick Launch bar more than anything), but I prefer the XP start menu to previous incarnations. Once you get used to the layout, you can get to the programs you need to (esp. with the recently used applications list) much more quickly. To each his own, though.

 

[Scootin159]

Originally posted by: RossMAN
I think I'll stick to XP Pro until I can afford 2GB RAM to run this hunk of love.

I guess by then (2006) 2GB might be the standard.

Actually if you look in the recent Dell ads they are offering computers with 2GB of RAM "Stock". They also reccomend AT LEAST 512MB for the normal user, 1GB for a "Power User".

 

[Ameesh]

you guys realize that most of the important code hasnt been integrated into this build of windows yet

 

[Scootin159]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
you guys realize that most of the important code hasnt been integrated into this build of windows yet

Right, I remember back (ok, not that far back) when "Whistler" was all the rage (Windows XP). It had a HORRIBLE UI, and still seemed exactly like Win2k under the hood. You've really gotta wait for RC1 to even get a good clue as to what things will look like. Until they get the DirectX Desktop down I would expet to see the WinXP desktop used exclusivly (as in this demo for hte most part).

Also don't judge the OS entirely on how it looks, IMHO one of the bigger changes in Longhorn will be the Database-driven file system. It would be nice to see a higher level of user customization (such as 3rd party skins....a feature ALMOST there in XP, but only "supported" with 3rd party apps).

 

[digitalsm]

It comes out in Q1 2006

Two freaking years. Just a wee bit early to be judging anything on an alpha build.