Win 10 updates can't be disabled

[Red Squirrel]

Wow that could get annoying, they better not force reboots or keep nagging to reboot either. That will piss lot of people off.

Worse case scenario you can probably block the update server at the firewall on a schedule, allow it at night and block it during the day. Or simply disabling the WU service might work too.

 

[escrow4]

Wow that could get annoying, they better not force reboots or keep nagging to reboot either. That will piss lot of people off.

Worse case scenario you can probably block the update server at the firewall on a schedule, allow it at night and block it during the day. Or simply disabling the WU service might work too.

Windows is now a rolling release. MS may claim otherwise but it is. Windows on July 29th 2015 and July 29th 2016 will be different. No more release every 2 or 3yrs, no more service packs. Logically you'd think they would release an .iso with x updates at a point in time too.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

I wonder when DX12 will come out. Win10 10240 comes with 11.1

Check your drivers. DX12 requires a WDDM 2.0 compliant one, and hardware compatibility for full support.

 

[VRAMdemon]

I'd be OK with auto-install for criticals, but for drivers? No way, that is totally unwarranted and unwanted. I can't believe the OEMs would even want that, as what happens when MS pushes a driver update that borks the OEM install, and then the OEM support has to deal with that?

Please MS, if you're lurking and reading feedback - don't do this for drivers!

This 1000x...There is no way I am using an OS that doesn't allow for automatic driver updates to be disabled. The critical system and security updates I can live with, but drivers, I don't think so. According to this article, the auto updates for drivers are already causing problems with Geforce experience.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonk...blems/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix

 

[VRAMdemon]

Question for those of you using Windows 10: I have heard that the home version is completely automated, and pro version you can defer the updates for 8 months and at that time they will install automatcly. So, does that mean after 8 months windows will overwrite my Nvidia driver with the windows version?..Is this correct?

 

[Insert_Nickname]

This 1000x...There is no way I am using an OS that doesn't allow for automatic driver updates to be disabled.

The option to turn off automatic driver updates is still there as of 10240. Weather they remove it later is another question.

But I think it unlikely.

 

[craiggloyd]

@Insert_Nickname, See post #55, is 'driver software' software associated with the drivers, or the drivers themselves too?

@VRAMDaemon, Don't know if drivers are blocked by delaying updates. Make regular backups and disable the Windows Update Service when you aren't in a position to easily recover from a bad driver install.
The WUShowhide troublehsooter kind of works but the updates don't stay hidden forever. Very soon Windows Updates sees it again, at least for me.

 

[stockwiz]

I don't like how windows gets virtually realtime bandwidth demand for updates... with a 5 megabit connection downloading a new build took a little while and while doing it internet usage was pretty much not possible because microsoft used pretty much every last bit of bandwidth and wouldn't free any of it up for other applications.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

@Insert_Nickname, See post #55, is 'driver software' software associated with the drivers, or the drivers themselves too?

I suspect so. When f.x. you install AMD/Nvidia drivers, you have the option to skip all the associated software, and just install the drivers themselves.

The Windows update properly just throws everything provided on the system.

 

[sweenish]

Loving the FUD train.

 

[TeknoBug]

The option to turn off automatic driver updates is still there as of 10240. Weather they remove it later is another question.

But I think it unlikely.

Test builds are based on the Pro version IIRC, Home version will have no option from what I read.

 

[JackMDS]

A good read about the issue here -

https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/4881/windows-10-and-automatic-updates

A Temp. functional solution here.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930

 

[razel]

Absolutely awesomely useful info Jack! Love posts like that. Useful, concise solution to a problem instead of whining... believe me, I'd know... I'm great at whining.

From the last link it looks like it's been available since early July, but still it's far easier for MS to just put checkboxes next to optional non-security updates, like hardware drivers. I've whined to them through the Insider Feedback constantly after every new build.

 

[Hugh Jass]

http://www.maximumpc.com/microsoft-...home-users-to-block-unwanted-updates-working/

 

[bbhaag]

nvm

 

[tidy]

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[Red Squirrel]

Windows is now a rolling release. MS may claim otherwise but it is. Windows on July 29th 2015 and July 29th 2016 will be different. No more release every 2 or 3yrs, no more service packs. Logically you'd think they would release an .iso with x updates at a point in time too.

Yeah I heard this is basically the last version that is being released stand alone? The rest is going to basically be updates or worse, subscription based. That's kind of scary, especially for companies.

 

[postmortemIA]

Yeah I heard this is basically the last version that is being released stand alone? The rest is going to basically be updates or worse, subscription based. That's kind of scary, especially for companies.

Companies will evaluate annually or so if new model gives them any edge or has other advantages. It will be a few years until Windows 7 becomes obsolete... maybe it will take as much as it took for Windows XP.
The annual subscription thing is different for enterprise, they pay differently now, so probably subscription thing won't be scary for them. Any software that servers special purpose is already on subscription model, usually per seat per year, with maintenance fees, etc.

 

[ViRGE]

So Pro can disable updates after all? It seems to change every time I read about it.

"...Must in fact keep Windows up to date in order to receive support". What exactly do they mean by "support"? Subsequent updates?

Windows 10 is a rolling release. Microsoft will periodically push out updates that introduce new features. Think of them as mini service packs.

Like traditional service packs, MS will only support the previous version for a limited period of time. After which you need to be on the newest feature update to continue receiving support, and thereby security updates. The difference is that Home users cannot turn down feature updates at all, whereas Pro users can defer (but not deny) them for a limited period of time.

Ultimately MS doesn't want to be building and regression testing 20 different combinations of the same software. Ideally they'd take everyone the iOS route: you run the latest version whether you like it or not. But pragmatically that's impractical, so this is the compromise solution. You still have to update, but Pro users can hang back and make sure the latest update doesn't break their software. It's primarily a concession to business users with their custom software, not consumers.

 

[TeknoBug]

Meanwhile the US Navy pays $9 million to keep XP in support. Isn't that kind of funny.

 

[piasabird]

They should consider all updates for hardware like video cards to be optional updates. Microsoft has no sense at all. What I read is if you uninstall the update, Microsoft just re installs it because it is forced. Microsoft should stick to fixing their poorly written OS.

It might be nice if there was an option for users not to update video card updates and other peripheral add-on's like printers and video cameras, headphones, and microphones and speakers, routers and such items.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Yeah I heard this is basically the last version that is being released stand alone? The rest is going to basically be updates or worse, subscription based. That's kind of scary, especially for companies.

I want to scream every time I see this.

It is not going subscription based!!! This has been said over and over and over. Geez.

I don't know who started that rumor but they should be beaten with terabytes until it megahertz.

 

[ninaholic37]

I want to scream every time I see this.

It is not going subscription based!!! This has been said over and over and over. Geez.

I don't know who started that rumor but they should be beaten with terabytes until it megahertz.

I think people come up with this possibility on their own based on products like Office 365.

 

[SparkyJJO]

I suppose, except it (and every other subscription based software out there) is not an operating system. Subscription based operating systems would fail so hard with the general public. Pay your monthly fee or otherwise your entire computer and your data is now inaccessible, held hostage basically until you pay again. Horrible PR nightmare there. I won't say that MS didn't think about it (odds are they probably did) but it would be suicide to try to implement it.

 

[destrekor]

Has anyone determined if disabling automating driver installations and updates will actually do the trick?

I'll hold off on Windows 10 until I know for certain. I have always disabled or neglected to install driver updates through Windows Update unless I felt a particular one was a great idea. Otherwise, especially for GPUs and most peripherals, I want to be in complete control.