Win 10 updates can't be disabled

[TeknoBug]

After what happened with the Xbox One at E3 2013 reverting their intended plans and MS caving in later with the non-Kinnect units, I think MS will cave in later with Win 10 and auto updates and add an option to turn it off.

So far really hating windows 10. Well really only for a couple of things. Mainly FORCED UPDATES! Twice now it has installed the Razer software for my keyboard and mouse which I do not want at all. If this is how windows 10 will handle updates count me out. Oh it also installed some Intel utility that keeps popping up. Can't we set it up for updates like windows 8 or 7? This is really lame...and a total deal breaker for me unless it can be changed....back to W8.1

Did you select "Don't install" when Razer installer came up?

 

[zod96]

I actually think that is what is going to happen also. But until that time, its windows 8.1 for me. I'm sure by SP1 for windows 10 they will add that option.

 

[Elixer]

What they should do is, only have security updates auto-update. I don't think anyone is against that.

Reading the insider feedback app, seems lots of people think this is just asking for trouble if everything is auto-updated.

 

[stockwiz]

I agree they should allow choice, but personally it won't affect me... I just let it install everything and don't even look at what it's installing.. just reboot when it asks me too.

 

[blurredvision]

TBH while I understand the concern, if a Windows update causes a system to grind to a halt, that system is probably horrifically outdated anyway and probably needs upgraded. But I've never seen an update drag a system down like that. What was that system running, a first gen Atom on an old netbook with 1G RAM?

I worked for a managed service provider and we had a new client come in with about a hundred workstations. We installed our monitoring, which handles Windows and some third-party patching automatically, then turned on the updates to install that night. The next 2-3 days were horrible, as systems were dragging, it was taking them way longer to do stuff.

Found out that their IT guy before us, and who still worked there, hadn't bothered to ever update their systems, so every one needed almost the whole gamut of W7 updates. On top of that, they were all sitting at the minimum hardware recommendations for W7.

Even though we kicked off updates that night, it was taking hours to install some updates, tell the user to reboot, then install more, then reboot, rinse and repeat.

 

[KentState]

I get not being happy about windows update forcing things (heaven knows I'm not) - but I don't think that blocking ALL of the updates off is a good idea. You might as well run XP - you'll be plenty vulnerable.

At that point, I'd rather just stick with 8.1 for the next few years until someone figures out a way to limit updates.

 

[Ketchup]

At that point, I'd rather just stick with 8.1 for the next few years until someone figures out a way to limit updates.

A few years? I would be surprised if it takes someone more than a few months to figure out how to bypass that one. But I'm not a programmer, so I could very well be wrong.

 

[NetGuySC]

Can't you disable updates by buying the Pro version?

 

[Ketchup]

Can't you disable updates by buying the Pro version?

You can disable the Windows Update service with any version. What people are upset about is not having control when/if individual updates are installed. The only options now are
-When MS says so
-Not at all

 

[Andrmgic]

I'm personally ok with this.

The average windows user is incapable of keeping up with updates on their own. All they need is an option to choose when to restart their computers to install the updates.

You will have an option to delay feature upgrades -

http://windows.microsoft.com/is-is/windows-10/defer-upgrades-in-windows-10

As for the Razer software, I got prompted to install it. I picked "never install" and it hasn't done it automatically or bothered me about it again. I have a Naga 2014.

 

[ViRGE]

Can't you disable updates by buying the Pro version?

Yes, Pro users can defer updates.

 

[Mushkins]

I see a lot of people in this thread complaining that auto updates are installing third party drivers, gaming software updates, etc.

Make sure you have Windows Update set not to auto install recommended updates. You won't get all that junkware unless you run the recommended updates manually, and only security updates will be pushed to your system automatically.

Honestly, I'm OK with this change for home users. I can count the number of times I didn't want to install a priority security update on one hand over the years. Business environments should be using some sort of monitored patch management solution anyway, which also now comes with Windows 10 and it's more user-friendly Updates for Business.

The inconvenience to power users does not outweigh a multibillion dollar malware/botnet crime empire taking advantage of people who can't be assed to run windows update. The average user has already more than proven that they can't be trusted to do this on their own and taking the choice away from them is a smart move for cybersecurity the world over.

We might manage our updates as enthusiasts, but now that's one less Joe Blow with a malware laden zombie computer available to the bad guys to DDoS the playstation network or brute force its way into *our* account information stored on some insecure website.

 

[chucky2]

I'd be OK with auto-install for criticals, but for drivers? No way, that is totally unwarranted and unwanted. I can't believe the OEMs would even want that, as what happens when MS pushes a driver update that borks the OEM install, and then the OEM support has to deal with that?

Please MS, if you're lurking and reading feedback - don't do this for drivers!

 

[razel]

I see a lot of people in this thread complaining that auto updates are installing third party drivers, gaming software updates, etc.

Make sure you have Windows Update set not to auto install recommended updates. You won't get all that junkware unless you run the recommended updates manually, and only security updates will be pushed to your system automatically.

Wow... Have you tried Win 10 at all?

 

[Kaido]

Windows 10 users will get mandatory updates for a full decade:

http://gizmodo.com/windows-10-users-will-get-mandatory-updates-for-a-full-1719101282

 

[RampantAndroid]

Windows 10 users will get mandatory updates for a full decade:

http://gizmodo.com/windows-10-users-will-get-mandatory-updates-for-a-full-1719101282

Herd immunity would be quite a good thing, and honestly being able to prevent something like XP happening again (where people are running it years after support has ended and the OS has gaping security holes) would be great for security of people in general.

 

[HitAnyKey]

This only applies to Home users?

 

[SparkyJJO]

I don't see how requiring updates is at all similar to buying used games

 

[postmortemIA]

Of course they can be disabled. Technically savvy people will figure it out on July 29th. If Windows Update remains being a service, then it will be easy to turn it off.

 

[Sakumo]

I honestly don't see a problem with this, looking at it from an average consumer point of view. Updates are set on automatic for most people anyway. It's pretty much the same thing as before.

 

[ViRGE]

I'd be OK with auto-install for criticals, but for drivers? No way, that is totally unwarranted and unwanted. I can't believe the OEMs would even want that, as what happens when MS pushes a driver update that borks the OEM install, and then the OEM support has to deal with that?

Please MS, if you're lurking and reading feedback - don't do this for drivers!

On a side note, keep in mind that MS already forces driver updates in rare situations. Drivers with known security vulnerabilities (especially ones that get you to the kernel) will have updated drivers shipped out as a critical update.

IIRC, they've done this for both NVIDIA and AMD drivers.

 

[fleshconsumed]

So far really hating windows 10. Well really only for a couple of things. Mainly FORCED UPDATES! Twice now it has installed the Razer software for my keyboard and mouse which I do not want at all. If this is how windows 10 will handle updates count me out. Oh it also installed some Intel utility that keeps popping up. Can't we set it up for updates like windows 8 or 7? This is really lame...and a total deal breaker for me unless it can be changed....back to W8.1

With windows 8 there is an option to automatically install driver updates that is separate from the rest of the updates. Perhaps you have that option turned on in windows 10?

 

[William Gaatjes]

Well, i will just wait until microsoft allows for a manually install option. I do not mind that they recommend automatic updates for any kind of update, security/critical and non critical. But i do would like to see that i can choose to install updates when i want and what i want. I already had my share of problems with installing updates automatically under windows 7 after re-installing windows when i got my SSD. I do not want that to happen ever again. A lot of fun, seeing windows trying to install several updates and then see windows de-installing them all, because of some error... Rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat. Repeating that loop forever.
Only when i installed the updates manually one by one and later in small groups, i was able to get windows 7 to digest all updates properly. With exception of a few language packs i do not need.

What does worry me when reading about this forced updates, sooner or later vendor lock in will happen. I decide what to install on my pc, not the os provider. I want the choice. Let it be automatically when the user decides.


What i also do not appreciate is the following :When you want to know more about the update and what it is for, you get redirected to a microsoft website. Which provides only 0 information "This update will enhance the user experience" ...

 

[HitAnyKey]

nvm

 

[escrow4]

Someone on 10, do you have these driver installation settings: