Will Obama now work with republicans?

[Thebobo]

Obama doesn't feel he has to work with anyone. His ego and his narcissism won't allow for it.

Obama: 'Don't think we're not keeping score, brother'

That's what he said to a member of his own party.

At a private meeting with House Democrats this week, one member urged Obama to propose more money for roads and bridges. The president tartly reminded the fellow that he had voted “no” on the original stimulus package, which contained money for that very purpose.

“Don’t think we’re not keeping score, brother,” Obama added. There was laughter all around, but nobody missed the point: The president was at the helm, firmly in control.

Good for him!

 

[Thebobo]

Are you going to babble, or are you going to refute my claims?

Please tell me where the obama administration has done anything of value with our allies.

Gave military weapons to egypt, which you justified. Now that the government was overthrown, where is our military tech?
Syria is a craphole.
Iraq is being overwhelmed by isis.
Iran is furthering its nuclear program.
Libya is a hell hole after Muammar Gaddafi was overthrown.
Winter is here so Europe has no option but to butter up to Putin.
Chances are Russia is going to come out of the 2014 - 2015 winter a lot richer.
China is buying Russian oil.
Europe has no option but to buy Russian gas.

And then someone in the obama administration makes chickshit comments about netanyahu?

Holy crap, really?

And you think obama is going to shift slightly to the right?

The only thing obama is going to shift on is his golf swing.

The hate is strong in this one master..

YES Yes yes let it out feel the hate..

 

[Texashiker]

Lol! You lie all the time and make shit up. I believe nothing you say. You are a turd with a mouth who can't even remember what position he took on an issue from thread to thread.

It's ok, I still love you.

Not like in a gay kind of love, but in a humanity and compassion kind of love.

At a private meeting with House Democrats this week, one member urged Obama to propose more money for roads and bridges. The president tartly reminded the fellow that he had voted “no” on the original stimulus package, which contained money for that very purpose.

Seems the only people obama can negotiate with is the Iranians.

The hate is strong in this one master..

YES Yes yes let it out feel the hate..

Feels so good to let the hate out. I can feel the power surging through my veins.

 

[ivwshane]

At a private meeting with House Democrats this week, one member urged Obama to propose more money for roads and bridges. The president tartly reminded the fellow that he had voted “no” on the original stimulus package, which contained money for that very purpose.

“Don’t think we’re not keeping score, brother,” Obama added. There was laughter all around, but nobody missed the point: The president was at the helm, firmly in control.

Good for him!

Lol! When has context and facts ever mattered to a righty? You know why boomerang chose his nickname? Because he goes to right wing websites and comes right back here to post what he's read!

 

[thraashman]

For reference, no diamonds.

 

[fskimospy]

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/g_three_sections_with_teasers/origins.htm

http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory...ogether_-_Joint_Rules_of_House_and_Senate.htm

http://www.senate.gov/reference/reference_index_subjects/Cloture_vrd.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_procedure#American_procedures

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-the-roman-senate-and-could-wreck-ours/72776/

If your education in civics omitted this then you should probably revisit it. The filibuster isn't new, given the things that were deliberately and explicitly changed from the British way of doing things one would think that they would have omitted the filibuster from the rules we adopted if they thought as you did.

I also didn't see an update on Ms. Cox and I haven't found any reference to her leanings let alone history as a speechwriter.

Your links do nothing to support your contention that the filibuster was part of the deliberate design of our government. This is particularly funny considering the only statement about parliamentary procedure in the constitution is to say that each chamber has the ability to make its own rules, and establishing what majorities are needed to pass things. That's it. Maybe if you'd attended a few civics classes you would know that.

speaking of that, the constitution explicitly lays out situations where a majority of votes is needed and where a supermajority of votes is needed. Apparently according to you they laid out the requirements for consent, but they also meant to secretly include additional supermajority requirements that they just didn't feel like bringing up.

I shouldn't have to point out to you how bad an argument it is to say that everything not deliberately prohibited is thereby positively endorsed.

Regardless, considering the voluminous writings of the founders in and around the constitution, surely you can find some mention and endorsement of the filibuster as an intended element of US governance. When can I expect this? I'm willing to give you as much time as you need as I'm sure there are so many mentions that it will take time to sort through.

 

[Texashiker]

For reference, no diamonds.

I was starting to wonder if you fell in?

 

[werepossum]

The question was, "what platform did democrats run on". The answer was, "I'm not obama".

If the choice is between:

Obama is destroying this country

Or

I'm not obama


Who do you think will come out to vote?

Ah, my bad.

Many Democrats agree with you and thought the Democrat strategy was insane. However, the Democrat strategists could not make any scenario where standing with Obama led to less than utter defeat. Thus the fleeing from the sinking ship.

At a private meeting with House Democrats this week, one member urged Obama to propose more money for roads and bridges. The president tartly reminded the fellow that he had voted “no” on the original stimulus package, which contained money for that very purpose.

“Don’t think we’re not keeping score, brother,” Obama added. There was laughter all around, but nobody missed the point: The president was at the helm, firmly in control.

Good for him!

Three points. First, holding a grudge is not necessarily "at the helm, firmly in control." It's simply holding a grudge, which in politics is seldom wise.

Second, "contain[ing] money for that very purpose" /= "money for that very purpose". Not everyone opposing Attila's Five Year Plan to Feed Orphans and Rape Nuns loves starving orphans, and a bill can easily contain elements one supports while being on balance unpalatable.

Third, Obama being "at the helm, firmly in control" is largely what landed the Democrats in this position. By using up his political capital in Chicago politics, twisting arms to get his way, he has forced Democrats in many areas to do things that are not politically survivable for themselves or their political successors.

 

[Fern]

Will Obama now work with republicans?

I doubt it.

Obama is not really known for working with anybody. He never even worked to develop relationships with the Dems in Congress. He never worked to develop relationships with foreign leaders. To think that he's going to do so now with Repubs in Congress seems unlikely.

IMO, everyone is now claiming to want to work with other so when it doesn't happen they can point back to their claim saying they were willing, but the other wasn't.

Additionally, there are some things that by their very nature make compromise all but impossible.

Fern

 

[fskimospy]

I doubt it.

Obama is not really known for working with anybody. He never even worked to develop relationships with the Dems in Congress. He never worked to develop relationships with foreign leaders. To think that he's going to do so now with Repubs in Congress seems unlikely.

IMO, everyone is now claiming to want to work with other so when it doesn't happen they can point back to their claim saying they were willing, but the other wasn't.

Additionally, there are some things that by their very nature make compromise all but impossible.

Fern

This is odd, as obamas general reputation is that of someone who is far too willing to compromise. When you look at the inclusion of ineffective tax cuts in the stimulus to his foolish compromise on the debt ceiling the first time to the current compromises with Iran to the compromise with Russia over Syria, it seems that people are always mad at him for being too conciliatory.

The only thing I can think of where Obama has been genuinely uncompromising is his behavior after the first debt ceiling hostage debacle. And sweet Jesus should we all be thanking him for that, yourself included. (The sad thing was that the whole debt ceiling monster came from Obama being too willing to compromise to begin with)

 

[ivwshane]

I doubt it.

Obama is not really known for working with anybody. He never even worked to develop relationships with the Dems in Congress. He never worked to develop relationships with foreign leaders. To think that he's going to do so now with Repubs in Congress seems unlikely.

IMO, everyone is now claiming to want to work with other so when it doesn't happen they can point back to their claim saying they were willing, but the other wasn't.

Additionally, there are some things that by their very nature make compromise all but impossible.

Fern

Working with people and developing relationships is not the same thing. You may need one in order to get the other but they aren't the same thing.

Obama is not known for building relationships, he is known for working with others (ask any hard left democrat if they think he doesn't work with republicans).

 

[Victorian Gray]

Really?

Do you want to talk about all the laws obama has either ignored or postponed while in office?

obama refuses to enforce laws, ignores our laws, while at the same time refuses to negotiate with the republicans.

I'm curious, did you post something like this in 2006?

"President Bush has quietly claimed the authority to disobey more than 750 laws enacted since he took office, asserting that he has the power to set aside any statute passed by Congress when it conflicts with his interpretation of the Constitution.

Among the laws Bush said he can ignore are military rules and regulations, affirmative-action provisions, requirements that Congress be told about immigration services problems, "whistle-blower" protections for nuclear regulatory officials, and safeguards against political interference in federally funded research."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/30/world/americas/30iht-web.0430bush.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

 

[Victorian Gray]

You seem to have forgotten the whole 9/11 incident and how people wanted blood.

George gave the people what they wanted.

The people were holding a gun to his head forcing him to attack a country that had nothing to do with 9/11? Where was the Secret Service?

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Ah the Democrats, the worst party out there except for all the others.

Interesting time for the Republicans. They ran on an anti-Obama platform which sold well to mid-term voters (all 3 of them) but it isn't much of a platform to govern from.

Oh this will be a fun 2 years.

 

[cabri]

This is odd, as obamas general reputation is that of someone who is far too willing to compromise. When you look at the inclusion of ineffective tax cuts in the stimulus to his foolish compromise on the debt ceiling the first time to the current compromises with Iran to the compromise with Russia over Syria, it seems that people are always mad at him for being too conciliatory.

The only thing I can think of where Obama has been genuinely uncompromising is his behavior after the first debt ceiling hostage debacle. And sweet Jesus should we all be thanking him for that, yourself included. (The sad thing was that the whole debt ceiling monster came from Obama being too willing to compromise to begin with)

Up to this point, nothing has happened with Iran. Obama agreed to relax sanctions in terms of promises that still have not been kept.

Syria - he was making a fool and Russia stepped in to save the day and bail him out of the red line foolishness.

ISIS - blindsided and not getting results. Kurds and Turkey not proplery being worked with.

Only compromise I see was with Russian over Crimea. We will not do anything as long as you do no more. And we can see where that led to.

 

[werepossum]

Ah the Democrats, the worst party out there except for all the others.

Interesting time for the Republicans. They ran on an anti-Obama platform which sold well to mid-term voters (all 3 of them) but it isn't much of a platform to govern from.

Oh this will be a fun 2 years.

As Ivwshane pointed out, the Democrats also ran on an anti-Obama platform. Even the woman who was his delegate refused to admit she voted for him.

 

[feralkid]

I am in absolute bliss. Its like christmas and thanksgiving all rolled into one day.

Democrats can cry all the want, but the truth is obama handed this election to the republicans. obama has failed on so many points democrats will be lucky if the keep new york and california in the 2016 elections.

You can still hope for change, but it should have been clear at the 2012 elections obama was not going to do anything.

The only hope we have is both parties of congress work together on some kind of plan for after obama leaves office.

So...Rick Perry WILL be our next President?

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

As Ivwshane pointed out, the Democrats also ran on an anti-Obama platform. Even the woman who was his delegate refused to admit she voted for him.

Bad move on their part.

 

[Sonikku]

So...Rick Perry WILL be our next President?

Technically, Spidey hasn't yet been proven wrong. He said our next president will be Rick Perry. Four more years of Obama in 12 wasn't another president, it was the same one. Now 2016?

That is the one to watch.

 

[WHAMPOM]

If Maobama were alive in Washington's day he would likely be in servitude considering Washington owned slaves. No surprise you approve of this behavior you racist little twit.

As a son of a free African man and an American woman, I don't think so.

 

[sportage]

Considering only 1/3 of registered voters actually voted, and considering republicans have their own huge problem to address, i.e. the tea party, it is unlikely anything can or will change.
The tea party will want total shutdown of the government, McConnell will resist.
So Obama's problem is no longer the republicans and republicans problem is no longer Obama. What will now happen, and long overdue, is the civil war within the republican party itself.
You know that old saying... Be careful what you wish for.
This will not bring Obama vs republicans to a head.
This will bring republicans vs republicans to a head.
And the people will be watching.

Republicans were not elected simply because voters loved republicans, republicans were elected to work. And when the party itself begins their self destruction, voters will once again rise up in protest.
Never forget.... voters are fickle. What is palatable today sours tomorrow.
For anyone to be foolish enough to think this is some republican love-fest to last forever, think again.
Independents gave republicans their victory. And everyone knows all too well independents can turn on a dime.
So everybody just calm down, sit back, and enjoy the fireworks.
Who do you think will win? McConnell or Cruz?
And does a band-aid exist big enough to heal the impending wound?
Be careful what you wish for.....

 

[compuwiz1]

Sportage, please provide a link that verifies your 1/3 voted.

I'll tell ya what....if Obama uses his pen to grant amnesty to all the illegals, all hell is gonna break loose and he's gonna be in a world of shit. Impeachment proceedings will most likely begin.
I've listened to all the whiney liberals all day and read their social media posts. Still claiming the GOP suppressed votes and that all that happened is racial. Bull shit! America is tired of this ass clown and voted appropriately. Deal with it! If the GOP is so racist, how did Mia Love win in Utah? If the GOP is so racist, how did Tim Scott win a seat in the Senate? The racists / war on women narrative has failed and been debunked. It was all they had to run on and they lost. The democrats have noone to blame but themselves and playing the victim and racist cards look so childish.

 

[her209]

When Congress tries to pull a fast one on the American people, Obama be like

 

[rockyct]

I am in absolute bliss. Its like christmas and thanksgiving all rolled into one day.

Democrats can cry all the want, but the truth is obama handed this election to the republicans. obama has failed on so many points democrats will be lucky if the keep new york and california in the 2016 elections.

You can still hope for change, but it should have been clear at the 2012 elections obama was not going to do anything.

The only hope we have is both parties of congress work together on some kind of plan for after obama leaves office.

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[JEDIYoda]

This is an easy one. The Dems will use the next two years to say to the public "Your President can't help you because of those mean-spirited Republicans."

truth hurts...