Will Obama now work with republicans?

[thraashman]

Republicans have spent the last 6 years doing everything they can to fuck this nation in an attempt to make the President look bad. Why would anyone want the President to work with these seditious pieces of shit?

 

[Texashiker]

Republicans have spent the last 6 years doing everything they can to fuck this nation in an attempt to make the President look bad. Why would anyone want the President to work with these seditious pieces of shit?

Really?

Do you want to talk about all the laws obama has either ignored or postponed while in office?

obama refuses to enforce laws, ignores our laws, while at the same time refuses to negotiate with the republicans.

 

[K1052]

Nothing is going to get out of the Senate still so I wouldn't expect much change from the status quo. The House will continue to pass legislation that the President would never sign and it will all be bottled up in the Senate by filibuster from the Dem minority. If anything Congress will somehow become even less productive than it already is.

What I find amusing on the part of conservatives I've spoken with is how they see this as a broad political mandate from the country at large instead of favorable electoral conditions playing out and severe dissatisfaction on the part of the electorate. I somehow doubt they'll hold the same view in 2016.

 

[Knowing]

I'll just leave this here, and this. Judging from some of the threads over at DU during last night's implosion, they blame him for a fair bit as well.

 

[hal2kilo]

I recommend President Obama should give Sen. McChinless the same welcome as he was accorded when he came to office.

 

[fskimospy]

I'll just leave this here, and this. Judging from some of the threads over at DU during last night's implosion, they blame him for a fair bit as well.

I for one am amazed that former bush speech writers think the democrats did something bad, so my thanks for including that here.

The choice to limit the filibuster was only a mistake in that they didn't eliminate it entirely. Whether it's good or bad for a party in the short term might be your primary concern, it's not mine. It was a good move for the country as a whole. Someday hopefully you have sufficient perspective to realize this.

 

[etrigan420]

I recommend President Obama should give Sen. McChinless the same welcome as he was accorded when he came to office.

Exactly this.

 

[Knowing]

I for one am amazed that former bush speech writers think the democrats did something bad, so my thanks for including that here.

The choice to limit the filibuster was only a mistake in that they didn't eliminate it entirely. Whether it's good or bad for a party in the short term might be your primary concern, it's not mine. It was a good move for the country as a whole. Someday hopefully you have sufficient perspective to realize this.

So you think it is an unfortunate oversight that our government was designed to grind to a halt when it becomes dysfunctional? Interesting. Also, you said "writers," I was unaware that Ramsey Cox was a Bush speechwriter... it's not in her bio.


I learned something about my HVAC system the other day. When the burner fails to fire (or thinks it fails to fire due to a sensor crusted with deposits) 3 times the blower fan comes on for 45 seconds to a minute and a half. At first I didn't understand this behavior, after all if the furnace needs to fire then the thermostat is calling for heat... why move around cold air? But then I realized that if the system thinks it's broken then the system thinks that it has just purged a number of therms worth of gas in to a confined space. With this stunning realization I was comforted that the system values my not blowing up more than my temporary discomfort. Thanks for reading this.

 

[fskimospy]

So you think it is an unfortunate oversight that our government was designed to grind to a halt when it becomes dysfunctional? Interesting. Also, you said "writers," I was unaware that Ramsey Cox was a Bush speechwriter... it's not in her bio.


I learned something about my HVAC system the other day. When the burner fails to fire (or thinks it fails to fire due to a sensor crusted with deposits) 3 times the blower fan comes on for 45 seconds to a minute and a half. At first I didn't understand this behavior, after all if the furnace needs to fire then the thermostat is calling for heat... why move around cold air? But then I realized that if the system thinks it's broken then the system thinks that it has just purged a number of therms worth of gas in to a confined space. With this stunning realization I was comforted that the system values my not blowing up more than my temporary discomfort. Thanks for reading this.

It's interesting that you think the filibuster was part of how our government was designed. I've read the writings of the founders quite thoroughly and I have found no mention of this. Can you provide the source for this contention?

You may have been the recipient of some poor civics education. I'm open to helping you remedy this if you'd like.

 

[cabri]

the country sent a message to Washington and the political leadership.

they are unhappy with the way the Democrats have handled things.

Now, will the Democrats listen? The country did not blame the Republicans, no matter what the Democratic deniers (President down to the At P&N hacks) want to think.

Many Republican governors were elected in states where the Dems were thought to be secure.

A couple of days ago, the President saw the writing on the wall and started to make with the excuses.

People in this country saw that the Democrats were in the WH and that the Senate was under the iron grip of the Democrats.

and they felt that over the past few years, the Democrats did not deliver on what was needed, expected. Deniers (which are already showing up here in P&N prior to the election and still within these few threads) can push out excuses that the Republicans have blocked the Democratic agenda.

From the people POV, that becomes another excuse. the Democrats stated that were going to lead the country out of this mess and they have failed to do so. finger pointing is only acceptable to the blindly faithful.

Wall Street is making money; but people still are not getting raises and are worried about their jobs.

Dems showed up 6 years ago stating that they were going to reform the system; apparently they had different ideas on what reform met.

Leaders lead, get things done, forge compromises, negotiate solutions between opposing ideals; find a middle ground.
This has not happened and the people revolted at the ballot box as a result.

Democrats, listen up; if you can not show some progress, the 2016 advantage will be squandered.

 

[Pens1566]

Obama has broken that oath so many times it's not even funny.

What planet are you from?

You do know it was Republicans that voted to abolish slavery AND The Civil Rights act?

Democrats opposed both, strongly.

Get ready for a lot of veto overrides and possible impeachment!

In the end,it's checks and balances working the way they should.

Then it should be really, really, really easy to list say ... 10 of them then, right? Go ahead, we'll wait.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Will Obama now work with republicans?

TIL "work with" means do as we say. And, if you use an executive order, we'll sue (or try to sue is the reality).

 

[doubledeluxe]

Really?

Do you want to talk about all the laws obama has either ignored or postponed while in office?

obama refuses to enforce laws, ignores our laws, while at the same time refuses to negotiate with the republicans.

Is this some kind if right wing talk radio circle jerk?

 

[brycejones]

Is this some kind if right wing talk radio circle jerk?

Yes, they love a good tug job with their fellow nutters.

 

[dphantom]

It's interesting that you think the filibuster was part of how our government was designed. I've read the writings of the founders quite thoroughly and I have found no mention of this. Can you provide the source for this contention?

You may have been the recipient of some poor civics education. I'm open to helping you remedy this if you'd like.

A fascinating read about the history of the filibuster in the US Senate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_in_the_United_States_Senate

the bigger point though I think is our government is designed with checks and balances that can in fact grind operation to a halt. And rightfully so. There is no duty for one branch of government to follow another simply because one group - even a majority - wishes it.

 

[Knowing]

It's interesting that you think the filibuster was part of how our government was designed. I've read the writings of the founders quite thoroughly and I have found no mention of this. Can you provide the source for this contention?

You may have been the recipient of some poor civics education. I'm open to helping you remedy this if you'd like.

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/g_three_sections_with_teasers/origins.htm

http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory...ogether_-_Joint_Rules_of_House_and_Senate.htm

http://www.senate.gov/reference/reference_index_subjects/Cloture_vrd.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_procedure#American_procedures

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-the-roman-senate-and-could-wreck-ours/72776/

If your education in civics omitted this then you should probably revisit it. The filibuster isn't new, given the things that were deliberately and explicitly changed from the British way of doing things one would think that they would have omitted the filibuster from the rules we adopted if they thought as you did.

I also didn't see an update on Ms. Cox and I haven't found any reference to her leanings let alone history as a speechwriter.

 

[Mai72]

Obama is the greatest Prez since Washington.

 

[Texashiker]

Is this some kind if right wing talk radio circle jerk?

obama has refused to enforce:

Immigration laws
Drug laws
Corporate mandate of the affordable care act
Federal gun laws

Then there is the whole foreign policy issue.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

obama has refused to enforce:

Immigration laws
Drug laws
Corporate mandate of the affordable care act
Federal gun laws

Then there is the whole foreign policy issue.

Then Bush made possible all the excesses of violation of privacy. He killed a half million people because you think people wanted Iraq changed into the Coliseum. Your emperor has no clothes. Whisking away without trial? Oh that was your guy that started it. Obama is not my kind of person for President, but god forbid we should have the prior one back.

 

[Texashiker]

Then Bush made possible all the excesses of violation of privacy. He killed a half million people because you think people wanted Iraq changed into the Coliseum. Your emperor has no clothes. Whisking away without trial? Oh that was your guy that started it. Obama is not my kind of person for President, but god forbid we should have the prior one back.

You seem to have forgotten the whole 9/11 incident and how people wanted blood.

George gave the people what they wanted.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You seem to have forgotten the whole 9/11 incident and how people wanted blood.

George gave the people what they wanted.

So did Hitler.

What people wanted was for those responsible to be punished and the threat eliminated or reduced. That was in Afghanistan. Instead Bush and Co. leveraged that desire and fear to embark on something which diverted needed resources from Afghanistan on a folly which ultimately worked against that effort. Any fool can be manipulated through fear. Many can be by waving a flag. Both were done.

 

[HTFOff]

Obama is the greatest Prez since Washington.

If Maobama were alive in Washington's day he would likely be in servitude considering Washington owned slaves. No surprise you approve of this behavior you racist little twit.

 

[Engineer]

No.

 

[Mai72]

If Maobama were alive in Washington's day he would likely be in servitude considering Washington owned slaves. No surprise you approve of this behavior you racist little twit.

Oh please!

 

[trenchfoot]

"Will Obama now work with Republicans?"

One can say that that's what he's being trying to do for the last six years. If there was any give in the game of give and take since Obama took office, it's come from the Dem side of the aisle.

I literally got frustrated and pissed every time Obama and Reid gave in to Repub demands during Obama's first term while the Repubs kept up their clearly stated single-minded effort to get rid of Obama after his first term and gave back absolutely nothing in return. Repeat - NOTHING in return. Mission accomplished.

Apparently, Obama and the Dems decided to play the same game the Repubs were hammering him with during Obama's second go-around, and then the Repubs did a very good job of excoriating Obama and the Dems for doing exactly what was OK for the Repubs to be doing for the last six years.

Smart politicking IMO.