Will Mueller release his report before the midterms?

omega3

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So when is Mueller expected to release his report? Before or after the midterms? He's a republican so he might not do it just before an election. Any idea where he stands with his investigation. He still didn't indict Trump jr. or Kushner.
 

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So when is Mueller expected to release his report? Before or after the midterms? He's a republican so he might not do it just before an election. Any idea where he stands with his investigation. He still didn't indict Trump jr. or Kushner.

Probably not before the election, there’s just too much dirt to dig through. Before it is all over I suspect Trump Jr, Kushner, or both will be indicted.
 

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If he does it should be done no later then Sep 30. Trump is stalling out testifying but now that Don McGahn has spilled everything he knows it may goad Trump into an interview.

Mueller should make a public announcement when he is ready to issue his report. State it will happen immediately unless Trump is willing to sit for an interview. Give him one week to show.
 

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Probably not before the election, there’s just too much dirt to dig through. Before it is all over I suspect Trump Jr, Kushner, or both will be indicted.

This basically. I'll bet a lot of other people in Trump's orbit end up with charges stemming from criminal actions uncovered in the course of the investigation.

Don Jr. would seem to have the most exposure form a conspiracy standpoint that directly relates the Russia issue.
 

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Maybe if he can do more than one report (i.e. separate obstruction from the rest) or an alternative being high profile indictments. If he doesn't come out bold, It's going to be a shame if the Republicans keep Congress because they're complicit in all the bullshit and it will continue.
 

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Me reading the tea leaves:

Mueller is going to keep reporting via indictments.

Don’t expect a final report until mid 2019 at the earliest.
 

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Iirc, even if Mueller releases it there's no guarantee it will ever see the light of day. That is up to Congress I think, or possibly the dept of Justice (?) Now, chances are it leaks but who knows. If they sit on it, it might cause more outrage than if it is released with damaging info on Trump/Congress.

Looking at past investigations, this would be extremely early to wind it up. Iran/Contra, Watergate, Ken Starr's Whitewater etc etc. all took several years at least. Hell even the Valerie Plame leak investigation took 3 years and that was a tiny one compared to this.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...pared-to-past-special-counsel-investigations/

My hope is that Mueller uncovers what he can in the proper way and takes as long as it takes to get it right, in a non-partisan manner. His reputation suggests he will.
 

omega3

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I know an investigation takes time, but why exactly in this case? Like what more does Mueller and his team hope to find after more than a year?
 

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I know an investigation takes time, but why exactly in this case? Like what more does Mueller and his team hope to find after more than a year?

This is actually an EXTREMELY fast pace for an investigation. You should expect something like this to take 3-4 years generally.

Financial crimes and counterintelligence investigations take a really long time because you have to piece together tons of pieces of information that your targets are deliberately attempting to conceal. For example, maybe you're looking into money laundering and your target has 500 limited liability corporations. You need to dig through the financial history of every single one of them to see if/where money is being laundered through it and when that money does come in it's probably through another opaque limited liability corporation in Seychelles or something so then you need to talk to officials in that country to pull THAT corporation's records, etc. etc.
 
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This is actually an EXTREMELY fast pace for an investigation. You should expect something like this to take 3-4 years generally.

Financial crimes and counterintelligence investigations take a really long time because you have to piece together tons of pieces of information that your targets are deliberately attempting to conceal. For example, maybe you're looking into money laundering and your target has 500 limited liability corporations. You need to dig through the financial history of every single one of them to see if/where money is being laundered through it and when that money does come in it's probably through another opaque limited liability corporation in Seychelles or something so then you need to talk to officials in that country to pull THAT corporation's records, etc. etc.

Not as fast as some think, since the investigation started prior to Mueller. Many key players have been investigated for several years and should have been indicted years ago. We've already caught them red-handed, but the nation is still playing dumb about it. He should have been gone on Day 1.
 
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The simple answer is no. My bet is if they won’t do anything after the first of September until after the midterms. And this won’t be wrapped up by then. As I’ve said before they will adhere to the unwritten 60 day rule.

Even the potential for charges against Cohen they are saying end of the month or after the midterms. When they released the charges against Collins they also referenced the desire to not impact the election.
 

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One thing that I'm learning from the Manafort trial is that I should be laundering money, much more money. Because, apparently, unless you are unbelievably obvious about it AND decide to run a presidential campaign, nobody cares if you do it. There's virtually no doubt Trump's financial past is dirty dirty dirty. And if he had never run for president he probably would have gotten away with it too, if not for those darn kids and Mueller. Basically, nobody cared he was a dirty businessman, until he ran for president.
 

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Doesn't really matter, Trump is setting things up to pardon all the bad actors regardless.
 

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I know an investigation takes time, but why exactly in this case? Like what more does Mueller and his team hope to find after more than a year?

It was only a few weeks ago that Cohen's files were passed from the special master to the FBI. It's an enormous amount of material that may well open up other avenues of investigation.

Trump may well survive his full term but it's great watching him sweat & highly amusing watching his devotees twist their own minds into knots to maintain belief. There's no better example of that than Trump's performance in Helsinki.
 

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Mueller can only work on what he finds after he was brought on (which wasn't day 1), not on what "should have" already happened.

Why would the Valerie Plame investigation take 3 years, and this one only half that or so? How many times larger than that one is this? I don't have the answer, but there hasn't been a faster high-level investigation than this one. There have been way more indictments, and more quickly, than in past investigations. It sucks for everyone that wants closure, but it's going to move at a certain pace and I'd be surprised if we find out anything in 2019, let alone 2018, if the past is any guide.
 

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What was the expiration date when Trey Gowdy kept his witch hunt open against Hillary Clinton all the way up to the election? And the Comey announcements about her use of a server and Anthony Weiners lap tap that had nothing to do with her? I'll wait! Matter of fact - we will all wait for your answer. Trey Gowdy kept the investigation open to help Trump. Did the G.O.P. tell him to rap up? No. So why the hell is Gowdy on his high horse demanding Mueller rap his investigation up. Gowdy you are a two-faced hypocrite and phony. Go off and retire before a heart attack hits you!
What's the expiration date on a witch hunt?

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One thing that I'm learning from the Manafort trial is that I should be laundering money, much more money. Because, apparently, unless you are unbelievably obvious about it AND decide to run a presidential campaign, nobody cares if you do it. There's virtually no doubt Trump's financial past is dirty dirty dirty. And if he had never run for president he probably would have gotten away with it too, if not for those darn kids and Mueller. Basically, nobody cared he was a dirty businessman, until he ran for president.
Really, how many Manaforts are there out there. Seems there's a whole class of rather well off people that seem to think financial laws are for little people, and they seem to be getting away with it quite regularly. Oh that's right the conservatives/Republicans have slashed the auditing budget of the evil IRS. Whose apparent crimes are trying to enforce tax laws.
 
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Maxima1

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The simple answer is no. My bet is if they won’t do anything after the first of September until after the midterms. And this won’t be wrapped up by then. As I’ve said before they will adhere to the unwritten 60 day rule.

Even the potential for charges against Cohen they are saying end of the month or after the midterms. When they released the charges against Collins they also referenced the desire to not impact the election.

Why would the rule apply? It's only by association and not about someone currently running. Though, I think for certain allegations (as in the case of 2016 Trump campaign), it shouldn't even apply, which is a much better judgment than the contortions Comey made to explain his reasoning that Hillary perhaps mishandling classified info and slipping by is somehow "catastrophic".
 
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Probably not before the election, there’s just too much dirt to dig through. Before it is all over I suspect Trump Jr, Kushner, or both will be indicted.

I cant imagine what it must be like digging that dirt. Just when you think you are almost done with your hole you find out you have to dig another hole because...well...Trump.