Will having to register your guns stand up in court?

Texashiker

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Liberal bloggers are comparing registering your gun to registering your car.

If you drive a car on a public road, then you have to register it, have it inspected, pay fuel tax, and keep insurance on it.

The difference between a car and a gun, ownership of firearms is a protected right. Driving a car on a public road is a privilege.

Poll taxes were struck down.

People do not have to register their bibles.

People do not have to register to have children. In fact, any crack whore can squeeze out as many kids as she wants, and the state has to support and provide for those children.

People do not have to register before opening a political blog.
 

NTMBK

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The difference between a car and a gun, ownership of firearms is a protected right. Driving a car on a public road is a privilege.

The difference is, they didn't have cars in the 18th Century.
 

Demo24

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Its not a right, its a privilege and it can be revoked, and is, when necessary.
 

diesbudt

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Liberal bloggers are comparing registering your gun to registering your car.

If you drive a car on a public road, then you have to register it, have it inspected, pay fuel tax, and keep insurance on it.

The difference between a car and a gun, ownership of firearms is a protected right. Driving a car on a public road is a privilege.

Poll taxes were struck down.

People do not have to register their bibles.

People do not have to register to have children. In fact, any crack whore can squeeze out as many kids as she wants, and the state has to support and provide for those children.

People do not have to register before opening a political blog.


I like these ideas!
 

1prophet

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The difference is, they didn't have cars in the 18th Century.

Nor the internet, telephone, television, radio, computers, etc. so the 1st and 4th amendments need not apply to those.
 

diesbudt

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Nor the internet, telephone, television, radio, computers, etc. so the 1st and 4th amendments need not apply to those.

Actually, in a vague way of saying it. The 1st amendment was to protect speech and media. By media in this time was more gossip and the occasional pamphlet, maybe some printed news. Whatever.

Internet is media
TV is media
radio is media
(and so on)

Thus 1st amendment still applies to these.
 

techs

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If a well regulated militia is necessary than registering your guns is definitely legal.
 

highland145

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I have no guns. Sold them all to some guy on Craig's list. No, I didn't get his name.
 

Brovane

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Liberal bloggers are comparing registering your gun to registering your car.

If you drive a car on a public road, then you have to register it, have it inspected, pay fuel tax, and keep insurance on it.

The difference between a car and a gun, ownership of firearms is a protected right. Driving a car on a public road is a privilege.

Poll taxes were struck down.

People do not have to register their bibles.

People do not have to register to have children. In fact, any crack whore can squeeze out as many kids as she wants, and the state has to support and provide for those children.

People do not have to register before opening a political blog.
Actually a key difference I use is this.

You don't need to have a license or register a car to drive it. You only need to do this if you intend to use it on a public road or public property. For example if you owned a farm you could own a car that only was driven on the farm and you wouldn't need to register it and you wouldn't need to have a Driver License either to drive the vehicle. So usually when I hear someone use that argument I tell them that so you mean if I intend to use the weapon in a capacity in either open carry or concealed carry I need to get a permit and register the weapon? Sounds reasonable to me. However if I only intend to use the gun on private property I don't need to get a permit or register my firearm based on your auto example. At this point they usually get upset at me and tell me that I heard them wrong.
 
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exdeath

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If I have to register my semi autos under NFA as if they were machine guns they might as will be converted to machine guns...

If not registering then under NFA makes me a felon with illegal weapons anyway, might as well be converted to machine guns.

See where this is going?


Now multiply by 300 million and have a nice day.
 
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piasabird

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Do you have to register your hunting knife and chain saw? Chain Saws probably kill more people than guns. Of course, 500 people were killed in Chicago in one year where they had a gun ban. The problem is not guns, it is the people with a total lack of morality.
 

Lithium381

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only if we're going to register and have publicly available all the medications someone is prescribed and using . . . .

ie no it's not anyones business what gun i do or do not have, the governments nor my neighbors
 

HomerJS

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Every US born is required to obtain a social security card.

All male citizens 18-25 must register with selective service.

These are forms of self-registration with the government and they do not infringe on the right of life, liberty, et-al.
 

Ausm

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If a well regulated militia is necessary than registering your guns is definitely legal.

How the hell do you expect the Rightists in here to strike down Tyranny without there "Well regulated Militia"? ():) Sounds like their Militia uses a lot of fiber. :D
 

Jimzz

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Every US born is required to obtain a social security card.

All male citizens 18-25 must register with selective service.

These are forms of self-registration with the government and they do not infringe on the right of life, liberty, et-al.


Yep.
Also registering does not = taking away.

Just like you have free speech; but to protest/assemble you have to register and get a permit and that has been upheld.
 

ivwshane

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You have to register to vote and in some states you have to shows multiple forms of ID's. The right didn't have problems with that even though it wasnt needed and affected legal voters and didn't fix an issue they sought to solve.


So now we have a push for this that won't fix a problem and could place a burden on people so where do you righties stand now?



It's a tough one; do you stand by your principals and take it or are you a hypocrite?


Tough one indeed.
 

Lithium381

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registering doesn't mean they're taking them away NOW, just makes it easier when they want to take them away later
 

Texashiker

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Just like you have free speech; but to protest/assemble you have to register and get a permit and that has been upheld.

Isn't that when it comes to assembling on public land?

If I want to assemble a bunch of people on private property, do I have to have a permit?

Do you have to have a permit to assemble a couple of hundred people at a wedding?

What about at a church, walmart, sears, best buy,,,, do companies have to have a permit for people to assemble there?

Lets say a local church goes down to the river for a public baptizing, does the church have to have a permit?
 
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