Will DJT make it to the '26 election?

[Charmonium]

If you're news junkie (the actual news, not the alternate facts/reality news), you've seen the pix of Trump's swollen ankles and odd looking skin.

They had to admit that the swelling was due to "venous insufficiency." But there are at least a few different causes of that. I'm not a doctor, but as you age, you do pick up a few interesting facts here and there.

So for example, heavy amphetamine use causes this exact problem. How do I know? Take a guess. Also, I remember being at an NA meeting (Narcotics Anonymous) where some guy said he'd just been on a massive bender. He has precisely the same symptoms.

For young people, this doesn't seem to be an issue. From my experience, it's mainly middle aged to older folks.

If you're a Trump supporter, that would be the good news since the problem is generally reversible. If it's an actual vascular issue, I would have to assume that that can't be in any way good.

Now, if we assume that Trump has some very serious medical issues and we look at how he has continued to defy the courts, with apparently great abandon, should we at least consider that one possible explanation is that he doesn't think he's going to be alive long enough to be held accountable.

Of course there are any number of other plausible explanations. For example, it's possible that he really believes that there won't be a massive 2026 backlash and that, as has been true in the past, he does generally seem to avoid any consequences of his actions.

Even so, there's enough lack of clarity and transparency that it might be fun to engage in some, perhaps unwarranted, speculation. So let's ask the members.

 

[Greenman]

Old people have old people problems, nothing surprising there. If he doesn't make it to the mid terms we'll end up with Vance as president. I'm not sure about a backlash in the mid terms, that all depends on the economy.

I don't believe Trump will ever end up in jail.

 

[K1052]

He's obviously got multiple non-trivial health issues ongoing and likely had a minor stroke.

Nobody lives forever.

 

[Heartbreaker]

Now, if we assume that Trump has some very serious medical issues and we look at how he has continued to defy the courts, with apparently great abandon, should we at least consider that one possible explanation is that he doesn't think he's going to be alive long enough to be held accountable.

Of course there are any number of other plausible explanations. For example, it's possible that he really believes that there won't be a massive 2026 backlash and that, as has been true in the past, he does generally seem to avoid any consequences of his actions.

Wishful thinking.

There is a simpler explanation.

Wake up and smell the dictatorship you live in.

Tell me one feature of dictatorships, that don't already exist in the USA?

2026 elections will be rigged. Period.

The only question will be how successful that rigging will be.

Even if the Democrats still manage to flip the house, so what?

Trump already ignores congress, and we aren't even a year into the end of democracy speed run.

 

[Pens1566]

On this one, I'm separating what I think will happen from what I hope for.

We won't be so lucky as to have him succumb to the magic cheeseburger prior to the midterms.

 

[eelw]

But don’t get the medias obsession with his hands. Like fine, he’s had a few IVs. We know his doctors aren’t releasing the true facts of his medical condition. But with enough reporters badgering him, he may just have a heart attack during one of his media rants

 

[Muse]

I watched a longish video of an M.D. being interviewed and the subject was just this. It was around 2 weeks ago. There's definitely a fair possibility he won't make it to the midterms... as POTUS. I say 40%.

 

[Charmonium]

I watched a longish video of an M.D. being interviewed and the subject was just this. It was around 2 weeks ago. There's definitely a fair possibility he won't make it to the midterms... as POTUS. I say 40%.

Feel free to elaborate but no obligation of course.

 

[Pens1566]

I think a better question would be "Will we make it to the '26 election?".

 

[Heartbreaker]

It's very hard to predict when people will die from disease. In my own family I've seen younger healthy people die before older, sicker ones.

Maybe the question should be: "What happens to the dictatorship when Trump dies?"

If it's sooner they may not have a succession plan and MAGA might fall apart, or younger, more competent evil MAGA leadership might assume the mantle.

I think the USA is too far down the road to dictatorship to assume that even Trumps death would restore democracy.

 

[Muse]

Feel free to elaborate but no obligation of course.

I don't remember the details. They were deep and many. Medical stuff. Not sure I can find the YT video, will see if I can...

 

[Muse]

Feel free to elaborate but no obligation of course.

I don't see it, but this one probably covers most of what the other does:

 

[Moonbeam]

It's very hard to predict when people will die from disease. In my own family I've seen younger healthy people die before older, sicker ones.

Maybe the question should be: "What happens to the dictatorship when Trump dies?"

If it's sooner they may not have a succession plan and MAGA might fall apart, or younger, more competent evil MAGA leadership might assume the mantle.

I think the USA is too far down the road to dictatorship to assume that even Trumps death would restore democracy.

MAGA is a form of hopelessness. The state of hopelessness creates a will to self replicate. MAGA then is an ancient contagious hopelessness that has acquired a new name. In Biblical times it was analogized as worship of the beast, the Devil, etc. it is thus also a religion of hopelessness. The war between good and evil is characterized by the state of hope. Hope vs hopelessness, faith vs doubt, lover vs hate, awareness vs sleep, whether one is cornucopia or a vacuum with victory dependent on the resolution of opposites at a higher level of understanding. Duality cannot survive the joy of being.

Hold out for a dove carrying an olive twig.

 

[Muse]

I think the USA is too far down the road to dictatorship to assume that even Trumps death would restore democracy.

One shouldn't assume it but I'm sure his death will help.

 

[Pens1566]

One shouldn't assume it but I'm sure his death will help.

If the (over)reaction to the death of a mid-tier, shit-posting podcaster is any indication, I think you're sadly mistaken. Especially if it's while he's still in office.

And again, he's not the cause. He just gave people a justification to come out of the wood work with how they really feel.

 

[Moonbeam]

Old people have old people problems, nothing surprising there. If he doesn't make it to the mid terms we'll end up with Vance as president. I'm not sure about a backlash in the mid terms, that all depends on the economy.

I don't believe Trump will ever end up in jail.

I think his worst fear is to awaken to how worthless he feels, the thing he will thus make real redounding in history as an icon of contempt. Those who need worship by force find only contempt. I think of him dearly even now as the man who deleted from the history of fawning imbeciles, the great Ronald Who?

 

[Heartbreaker]

One shouldn't assume it but I'm sure his death will help.

Could JD Vance be worse than Trump, or would he be constrained? And what happens to the MAGA cult without Trump?​

These people are so craven, that I laughed when I read this part, because it just struck me as completely insincere while he's counting the days:

... recent assurances by JD Vance that he’s ready to be president “if God forbid, a terrible tragedy happens.”

 

[cytg111]

This mf'er is on cutting edge OSK gene therapy, 100%, he is not going anywhere.

 

[nakedfrog]

Vance praying every day for the *cough* "Lord" to call Trump home.

 

[hal2kilo]

But don’t get the medias obsession with his hands. Like fine, he’s had a few IVs. We know his doctors aren’t releasing the true facts of his medical condition. But with enough reporters badgering him, he may just have a heart attack during one of his media rants

You should see the ugly bruises on my forearms, just from pushing trees branches out of the way when I''m cutting around the edge of my lawn. It's like my skin has become paper thin. The golden years, ha, ha...

 

[Greenman]

I think his worst fear is to awaken to how worthless he feels, the thing he will thus make real redounding in history as an icon of contempt. Those who need worship by force find only contempt. I think of him dearly even now as the man who deleted from the history of fawning imbeciles, the great Ronald Who?

Trump is first and foremost a marketing guy that speaks in hyperbole. He's made his mark by being elected to a second term, and because of his age, beliefs, and inability to run again, he's in full blown "I don't give a fuck" mode.
I'll live with it because I have no choice and I agree with many of his goals.
For all of that I still can't embrace the fundamental hate presented by the left. I'm all done with them and hope the majority of the nation is as well.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

If you're news junkie (the actual news, not the alternate facts/reality news), you've seen the pix of Trump's swollen ankles and odd looking skin.

They had to admit that the swelling was due to "venous insufficiency." But there are at least a few different causes of that. I'm not a doctor, but as you age, you do pick up a few interesting facts here and there.

So for example, heavy amphetamine use causes this exact problem. How do I know? Take a guess. Also, I remember being at an NA meeting (Narcotics Anonymous) where some guy said he'd just been on a massive bender. He has precisely the same symptoms.

For young people, this doesn't seem to be an issue. From my experience, it's mainly middle aged to older folks.

If you're a Trump supporter, that would be the good news since the problem is generally reversible. If it's an actual vascular issue, I would have to assume that that can't be in any way good.

Now, if we assume that Trump has some very serious medical issues and we look at how he has continued to defy the courts, with apparently great abandon, should we at least consider that one possible explanation is that he doesn't think he's going to be alive long enough to be held accountable.

Of course there are any number of other plausible explanations. For example, it's possible that he really believes that there won't be a massive 2026 backlash and that, as has been true in the past, he does generally seem to avoid any consequences of his actions.

Even so, there's enough lack of clarity and transparency that it might be fun to engage in some, perhaps unwarranted, speculation. So let's ask the members.

The swelling looks like edema or lymphedema pooling, either of which isn't great in an old person and if it causes extreme swelling it can kill you (mainly filling your lung cavity, restricting breath). I wouldn't pay too much attention to it though, unless he starts looking like he's got elephant feet or stops giving public speeches.

 

[IronWing]

Trump is first and foremost a marketing guy that speaks in hyperbole. He's made his mark by being elected to a second term, and because of his age, beliefs, and inability to run again, he's in full blown "I don't give a fuck" mode.
I'll live with it because I have no choice and I agree with many of his goals.
For all of that I still can't embrace the fundamental hate presented by the left. I'm all done with them and hope the majority of the nation is as well.

Hating Nazis isn’t a bad thing.

 

[nakedfrog]

Greenman only embraces the fundamental hate America's alt-right is built on the foundations of. It's core to his being.

 

[Charmonium]

I don't see it, but this one probably covers most of what the other does:

I appreciate the effort but I didn't really get much from those interviews. Don't worry about it though and pls don't waste any more time on it. We'll see what we see when we see it.

I think the Donald has never really embraced the existential terror of human mortality and he's definitely not dealing well with it.

How close that inevitable termination point may be, I think that at the very least, it's become something of a specter that will no longer be ignored. And of course, when it's something he has no power over, he doesn't seem to deal well.