Will DJT make it to the '26 election?

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Regardless of the reason(s), do you think that Trump will survive at least up until Nov. 2026?

  • 1. No chance.

    Votes: 3 10.0%
  • 2. 50-50 chance

    Votes: 7 23.3%
  • 3. he'll make it but will be undeniably incapacitated

    Votes: 7 23.3%
  • 4. He will sail past it just like he always does.

    Votes: 13 43.3%

  • Total voters
    30

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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If the (over)reaction to the death of a mid-tier, shit-posting podcaster is any indication, I think you're sadly mistaken. Especially if it's while he's still in office.

And again, he's not the cause. He just gave people a justification to come out of the wood work with how they really feel.
He didn't do it, the administration did it. They are pulling the strings here.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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I appreciate the effort but I didn't really get much from those interviews. Don't worry about it though and pls don't waste any more time on it. We'll see what we see when we see it.

I think the Donald has never really embraced the existential terror of human mortality and he's definitely not dealing well with it.

How close that inevitable termination point may be, I think that at the very least, it's become something of a specter that will no longer be ignored. And of course, when it's something he has no power over, he doesn't seem to deal well.
No, it won't go well when he becomes disfunctional to the point where he can't even fake it. It won't be pretty, but nothing is with him. I make it a point to avoid seeing and hearing him. We need:

1. Change of power at the midterms
2. A non-Republican in the white house in 2029.
 

Charmonium

Lifer
May 15, 2015
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No, it won't go well when he becomes disfunctional to the point where he can't even fake it. It won't be pretty, but nothing is with him. I make it a point to avoid seeing and hearing him. We need:

1. Change of power at the midterms
2. A non-Republican in the white house in 2029.
I think that's guaranteed at this point, especially if Trump continues to go full bore autocrat. He simply doesn't realize how much he is viscerally hated by people. Just trying to silence Colbert and Kimmel pretty much decided his fate.
 
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hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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I think that's guaranteed at this point, especially if Trump continues to go full bore autocrat. He simply doesn't realize how much he is viscerally hated by people. Just trying to silence Colbert and Kimmel pretty much decided his fate.
Assuming there will be elections. They act like that won't be an issue at this point.
 
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Assuming there will be elections. They act like that won't be an issue at this point.
They sure act like there are going to be elections. You don't go through the motions of gerrymandering or letting your vulnerable members make symbolic no votes if you think there won't be elections again.

And why even give up in advance by assuming that is what they're going for. We should all be saying loudly that there are going to be elections. Don't give them any quarter or attempt to let them wiggle away from that reality by making assumptions about their behavior in advance.
 

Drach

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Honestly I want him to live to a ripe old age so my kids can defecate on his grave
 
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Heartbreaker

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Honestly I want him to live to a ripe old age so my kids can defecate on his grave

I want him to live out his term, but with more rapid decline in mental capacity, but refusing to step down, and becoming an ever larger embarrassment to everyone, even MAGA, until MAGA members are forced to use the 25th amendment to declare him unfit, right near the end of his term, so Vance doesn't get any real time in office.
 
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nakedfrog

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I want him to live out his term, but with more rapid decline in mental capacity, but refusing to step down, and becoming an ever larger embarrassment to everyone, even MAGA, until MAGA members are forced to use the 25th amendment to declare him unfit, right near the end of his term, so Vance doesn't get any real time in office.
You've somehow got more faith in MAGA than I do.
 
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eelw

Lifer
Dec 4, 1999
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Hmm good point. Him drooling and they have no choice but remove them better than him choking on a Big Mac is more humiliating
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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Trump is first and foremost a marketing guy that speaks in hyperbole. He's made his mark by being elected to a second term, and because of his age, beliefs, and inability to run again, he's in full blown "I don't give a fuck" mode.
I'll live with it because I have no choice and I agree with many of his goals.
For all of that I still can't embrace the fundamental hate presented by the left. I'm all done with them and hope the majority of the nation is as well.
How can I respond to this in a way that might get past your contempt for hatred from the left that I also see and feel negatively about as you do on the one hand, but fully embrace and experience myself on the other. How can I sound either rational or genuinely sincere. How can I experience both conservative and liberal feelings. How can I say I am both liberal and conservative and neither. It has to do, I think, to not being attached to what I feel.

I believe I have been programmed, that I was told how I should respond in various situations that these reactions were inculcated into me before I could reason or think, and that they act on me unconsciously coloring how I react to things and that owing to reasons I can’t determine I briefly transcended them in a way that altered their hold on me. I still have them, they still trigger me, but I know they have no absolute value, that I am run by lies. I can’t take myself seriously, and I can be serious about that at the same time. I think what most people seek in the way is self affirmation, the opinions they hold dear are actually programmed stupidity. So I am stupid but unlike egotists I know it. If I believe it garbage.

So when you tell me you are done with liberal hate, I hear self justification in your words, sanctimonious judgment based on unconscious programming just as happened to me. But you are all in on it whereas I find it farcical because I can’t prove myself logically right. I only feel it.

But you are saying to me also that you believe hate is wrong and I take that to be intuitively valid and factual that hatred makes people miserably sick, but you are not seeing your contempt for it is the same thing. Conservatives hate liberals for their supposed lack of values while liberals hate you because your values are beliefs your contempt contradicts.

In short you are what you hate and the hate you accept in yourself you hate only when you see it in liberals. Hate is evil, you got that right, but you also suffer from that disease and don’t see it. I am just like you but I died to the need not to know it. I am full of hate and what power it is when I say to myself others are deserving of it. Try proving they are. There can be no guilt for people put to sleep via programmed indoctrination as children.
 

Moonbeam

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You've somehow got more faith in MAGA than I do.
Don’t you think the hold Trump has on conservatives is that he gives them permission to express their pent up rage that has been channeled to getting even with inculcated delusions about the evil of liberals? In my opinion, day by day in his actions he becomes more and more obviously pathetic? What kind of strong man drools in his soup and expresses himself as an imbecile? What happens when the fear of his strength and the vicarious sadism it gifts turns to fear one will be caught out hiding under the skirts of an contemptible idiot. Who doesn’t know the fate of the Wizard of Oz when the big powerful and threatening horn is seen to being blown by an insignificant nobody.
 

Amused

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Apr 14, 2001
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Realize this, no matter how he dies, MAGA will create a firehose of conspiracies accusing the left of murdering him.

He also will become like Kirk, an unimpeachable, unassailable martyr.

He needs to flame out in dementia riddled embarrassment.
 

eelw

Lifer
Dec 4, 1999
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I believe I have been programmed, that I was told how I should respond in various situations that these reactions were inculcated into me before I could reason or think, and that they act on me unconsciously coloring how I react to things and that owing to reasons I can’t determine I briefly transcended them in a way that altered their hold on me. I still have them, they still trigger me, but I know they have no absolute value, that I am run by lies. I can’t take myself seriously, and I can be serious about that at the same time. I think what most people seek in the way is self affirmation, the opinions they hold dear are actually programmed stupidity. So I am stupid but unlike egotists I know it. If I believe it garbage.
lol programmed! 🤣🤣🤣

Well I’m glad most of us here in our echo chamber were “programmed” to see which side is currently the fascist one
 

WilliamM2

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Trump is first and foremost a marketing guy that speaks in hyperbole. He's made his mark by being elected to a second term, and because of his age, beliefs, and inability to run again, he's in full blown "I don't give a fuck" mode.
I'll live with it because I have no choice and I agree with many of his goals.
For all of that I still can't embrace the fundamental hate presented by the left. I'm all done with them and hope the majority of the nation is as well.
You must have missed the Kirk memorial. It was every single cabinet member telling us how much they HATE America, and the left. Even Fox cut away during Trump's rant.

Damn dude, change channels once in a while, or better yet, seek independent news,
 

Fenixgoon

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Trump is first and foremost a marketing guy that speaks in hyperbole. He's made his mark by being elected to a second term, and because of his age, beliefs, and inability to run again, he's in full blown "I don't give a fuck" mode.
I'll live with it because I have no choice and I agree with many of his goals.
For all of that I still can't embrace the fundamental hate presented by the left. I'm all done with them and hope the majority of the nation is as well.
And which goals are those?
 
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WilliamM2

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This ^. Vance isn't the charismatic cult leader figure that Trump is, but he's more capable of actually pushing through terrible changes because he's not a pudding head.
I'm still trying to figure why drump is considered "charismatic". I've always found him repulsive, even on the Aprentice.
 
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Pens1566

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I'm still trying to figure why drump is considered "charismatic". I've always found him repulsive, even on the Aprentice.

Yeah, I don't get it either. I debated not using that word as I don't see it myself. But, it's probably along the lines of him being a dumb person's idea of a smart man, or a poor person's idea of a rich man. That, and he does give a lot of people a safe sense of letting them do whatever the hell they want with zero repercussions.
 

Moonbeam

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lol programmed! 🤣🤣🤣

Well I’m glad most of us here in our echo chamber were “programmed” to see which side is currently the fascist one
You are in fact programmed, in my opinion, in what you express here because you profess an opinion you are glad you believe, namely that the fascists are over there and you are on the holier team. Echo chambers are where insecure believers gather to chant in order to drive uncertainty out and where authoritarian bullying festers and manifest as hatred of the inferior. There is an outhorizn right and an authoritarian left. The only an authoritarianism you should worry about is your own in my opinion. I can attempt not to take the only fool I have any influence either, myself, seriously, but besides expressing my opinions to you, I can do nothing to change you. The will to increase personal understanding requires you feel the need. People thinking have need is a weakness. Notice how I expressed mine and you mocked it. That kind of thing is supposed to hurt by triggering my self hate. It doesn’t work as well if you see what is happening.