I disagree. Powell and Rice would have a good chance at getting nominated if they decided to run.
I disagree. Powell and Rice would have a good chance at getting nominated if they decided to run.
Because, maybe she doesn't want to live under a public microscope for 4 years of her life ... and maybe even for the rest of her life. Some people like their privacy. With Colin Powell in his current position, she doesn't have to be in the limelight. If she were the first lady, she'd always have to be in the limelight.
Yes, but hopefully he does have an opinion - and does know how to voice it. Up until recently, he's been pretty quiet.
Great man, but unfortunately this is true. He said a couple years ago in an interview I seen that he didn't want to run for President. I think if he could win the Republican Nomination he could win. But thats the problem he would not be able to win his own Party's nomination. And thats the sad part. Because he does posess all the things you would want in a President, except he's black. But I will tell you this, I believe if things continue in this country like they have under Bush, Hillary Clinton will run for President and she will win.
Just keep telling yourself that. Powell and Rice are very respected and would be supported by republicans in general.
Just because you aren't publicly contradicting something doesn't mean you are for it. Colin Powell knows exactly how to voice his opinion. He knows where to do it and when to do it and he also understands the importance of presenting a unified chain of command.
As to why Alma Powell didn't want Colin to run for President. She was afraid he would be attacked or shot.
Hey if I would consider voting for McCain, I would also just as much consider voting for Powell. I like Rice more though. But I seriously doubt people like Trent Lott, Hatch, and a long list of others would support Powell because ulitimately they would be supporting a black man. He could win the presidency, if he could win a republican nomination, but that ain't gonna happen no time soon.
Hayabusa Rider
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Gotta go with Dave on this one. Powells job is to support Bush. He cannot undercut him or contradict him publicly. He does indeed understand the chain of command. He may or may not support this course of action, but in his position he does have input. I suspect, although I do not know for certain, that Powell is one of the calmer voices among Cheney and Rumsfeld.
You know every time we get into a debate about race or programs like AA, I am surprised at the repsonses I read about how so much things have changed where we don't need AA. But if those things are true, how is that that a black man still has to fear for his life if he runs for the highest office in the land? Hmmmm makes you wonder...................
One could argue a supreme court judge has more power than a president, since it is a lifetime appointment.
Chaotic42
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I don't know that that would be a huge issue. The average racist might be upset, but most wouldn't think of all out killing. I'd be more worried about getting shot for something else, not just race. There is always someone who really wants the president dead. It would be no different for Powell.
Most psycho rednecks . . . hell most Americans proably can't name two supreme court justices. I listened to an NPR piece on the USS Stennis today where only 1/3 could name the Sec of State and only a smidge more could name the Sec of Defense. Americans are damn ignorant.
Powell is too disciplined, too honest, and too black to be President. His talent has been wasted battling Bush admin chickenhawks. President Powell would have called neocon policies for North Korea pure BS. And of course the GOP would never nominate Powell to head the ticket.
If the Iraqi invasion or subsequent occupation turns out poorly Powell will get the blame.
Pliablemoose
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Where angels fear to tread...
I listen to The Travis Smiley Show on my drive home from work, you wouldn't believe the criticism Powell & Rice get from the AA community, they seem to be percieved as sellouts or coconuts (dark on the outside, white on the inside)
That being said, I think they both are awesome & would be a killer Republican ticket in 08' We're going to hear more from both of them in the future.
I listen to The Travis Smiley Show on my drive home from work, you wouldn't believe the criticism Powell & Rice get from the AA community, they seem to be percieved as sellouts or coconuts (dark on the outside, white on the inside)
That being said, I think they both are awesome & would be a killer Republican ticket in 08' We're going to hear more from both of them in the future.
I'm not sure your characterization is accurate. Most white Americans are not raving loons of the political right. Most Christians aren't raving loons of the political right. Most black Americans are quite conservative in values . . . they just deny the right of countries/governments to impose them on citizens. Of course, that perspective evolved from centuries of having the government impose its ill will upon people outside of the power structure.
I think Clarence Thomas is a mediocre judge. He's on the Supreme Court b/c he was a conservative AND black. He's a testament to why quotas don't work. Thurgood Marshall was a testament to how affirmative action can work. Powell and Rice are illustrative of exceptional talents that just happen to be minorities.
Sellout implies someone rejects the greater good in favor of self advancement. I think that's an accurate description of say Bush or Clinton but definitely not Rice and Powell. Coconut is a new one . . . but it demonstrates the prejudicial ignorance of Americans since much of the world associates coconuts with being green NOT brown.
BeauJangles
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All I can say was that if I were going to be the first black US president, I would get a Mexican to be my vice president. That way those crazy KKK guys would think twice before shooting me as the mexican would open the US border 
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