Wii Online

[JS80]

looks like nintendo's winning hearts and minds months before the release of wii. ingenious management team they have there.

 

[aswedc]

If I wanted to play games with ****** graphics I'd just use my PS2. Not paying $250 just for the Wiimote.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: Thraxen

But with Live you can easily compare accomplishments between games, you can see what games all your friends are playing, you have your gamer tag reserved for all games, setting up chats is super easy (no one has to be running a chat server nor do you have to know their IPs), and you can chat with friends playing different games. Some of that stuff can be accomplished on the PC, but not in nearly same sort of easy to use package.

Doesn't seem too easy. can I minimize a game and run AIM and chat with my friends?

Yes. And by golly...you don't even have to pay the $50/year for Live Gold to do it either.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: aswedc
If I wanted to play games with ****** graphics I'd just use my PS2. Not paying $250 just for the Wiimote.

wtf wiimote is $250?!?!

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Attn: BlancoNino

Let's take a popular FPS title like, I don't know, Counter-Strike.

You think that would work nearly as well if you had to hunt down each server by "friend code" (IP address) that you wanted to play on, instead of hitting "Refresh master server list", checking "Ignore empty/full" and sorting by ping?

Oh, that's right. It would suck like a supercharged Hoover.

- M4H

Although Nintendo uses friendcodes, games like Mario Kart don't require them. You can just quick match or whatever and play with other people you don't know. So I don't see why Wii games can't do that too.

This is like the third time I've said this in this thread -

The Wii is using the same matchmaking and friendcodes system as the DS.

 

[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: Thraxen

But with Live you can easily compare accomplishments between games, you can see what games all your friends are playing, you have your gamer tag reserved for all games, setting up chats is super easy (no one has to be running a chat server nor do you have to know their IPs), and you can chat with friends playing different games. Some of that stuff can be accomplished on the PC, but not in nearly same sort of easy to use package.

Doesn't seem too easy. can I minimize a game and run AIM and chat with my friends?

Yes. And by golly...you don't even have to pay the $50/year for Live Gold to do it either.

LOL but you have to pay $50 a year to actually play the gameS!

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: Thraxen

But with Live you can easily compare accomplishments between games, you can see what games all your friends are playing, you have your gamer tag reserved for all games, setting up chats is super easy (no one has to be running a chat server nor do you have to know their IPs), and you can chat with friends playing different games. Some of that stuff can be accomplished on the PC, but not in nearly same sort of easy to use package.

Doesn't seem too easy. can I minimize a game and run AIM and chat with my friends?

Like I said, some of that stuff can be done on PC. But what if your friends don't use AIM? Say they prefer MSN. At that point you can switch to something like Trillian. But you still can't see what games they are currently playing. Again, the main point is the easy of use and the convenience of having everything under the same service. It's all so seemless.

Also, there even more advantages that haven't been discussed yet, like the ability to rate players. Say you are playing a game with some dumbass you hate. Just submit a bad review and you will likely not have to play with that person again... in any game. The Live service will automatically avoid matching you two up again.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: Thraxen

But with Live you can easily compare accomplishments between games, you can see what games all your friends are playing, you have your gamer tag reserved for all games, setting up chats is super easy (no one has to be running a chat server nor do you have to know their IPs), and you can chat with friends playing different games. Some of that stuff can be accomplished on the PC, but not in nearly same sort of easy to use package.

Doesn't seem too easy. can I minimize a game and run AIM and chat with my friends?

Yes. And by golly...you don't even have to pay the $50/year for Live Gold to do it either.

LOL but you have to pay $50 a year to actually play the gameS!

It's pretty clear that you don't know all the features for Xbox Live. The services offered for the $50 goes beyond simply playing games.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: purbeast0

thats what you are paying for ... $50/yr to game online. if you dont pay the $50/yr fee you can still have access to all that other crap for free (demos, trailers, xbox live arcade, messages, friends list).

These are the things I have a hard time understanding why people pay for. Demos for PC = free. Trailers for PC = free. AIM, MSN, XFIRE, etc = Free. 90% of online games = free. All you pay for is the internet connection.

Hmm some of you are really having a hard time reading lol.

Again ... Trailers for 360 = free, demos for 360 = free. the ONLY thing you are paying the $50/yr for is to PLAY online for free with the global xbox live service that is on the back end.

just compare the PS2 online play to the xbox live online play and you will see exactly WHY people prefer playing on xbox live. The online play must pass a certain series of tests before it can be released to the console. The online play must have voice chat, and it will also have the global friends list.

games that come out on PC have no standards. sure some games can have 64 people playing online at once, but is the game actually playable? in most FPS cases the answer to that is no due to lag. it's the same how car amps are always rated MUCH higher than what they ACTUALLY put out while using them.

WIth the standards that are set by MS and must be met for a game to be on xbox live, it must be actually playable, it must have the friend list incorporated, and it must work in a unified system known as xbox live. I've played every console online, and as I stated previously, I would gladly rather pay $50/yr to play on xbox live than play for free and have an online service like the NDS currently has.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: Thraxen

But with Live you can easily compare accomplishments between games, you can see what games all your friends are playing, you have your gamer tag reserved for all games, setting up chats is super easy (no one has to be running a chat server nor do you have to know their IPs), and you can chat with friends playing different games. Some of that stuff can be accomplished on the PC, but not in nearly same sort of easy to use package.

Doesn't seem too easy. can I minimize a game and run AIM and chat with my friends?

you can chat with other friends (who arent even playing the same game as you) very easily with xbox live.

 

[purbeast0]

after reading this whole thread after lunch, it's apparent that BlancoNino has no clue what xbox live is even like and has never used it before.

 

[BeauJangles]

I think a decentralized approach is not the way to go. MS has nailed with Xbox Live. Despite it's price tag, it offers so many advantages over other models. First, you are assured that the games you are playing are lag-free because everyone is on high-speed. Second, like thraxen said, it allows you to avoid playing with certain asshats over and over again and discourages people from being jerks online to begin with. Not to mention they have an awesome content delivery system. Sorry, but MS really got it right with xbox live, IMO it was the best feature of the original xbox.

 

[40Hands]

Originally posted by: aswedc
If I wanted to play games with ****** graphics I'd just use my PS2. Not paying $250 just for the Wiimote.

You're whats wrong with gamers these days. "OMG its graphicz are teh suck!"

Stfu n00b.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: BroeBo

Originally posted by: aswedc
If I wanted to play games with ****** graphics I'd just use my PS2. Not paying $250 just for the Wiimote.

You're whats wrong with gamers these days. "OMG its graphicz are teh suck!"

Stfu n00b.

not to mention that, seeing as how gamecube had better graphics than PS2, wii will have far better graphics than PS2.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
I think a decentralized approach is not the way to go. MS has nailed with Xbox Live. Despite it's price tag, it offers so many advantages over other models. First, you are assured that the games you are playing are lag-free because everyone is on high-speed. Second, like thraxen said, it allows you to avoid playing with certain asshats over and over again and discourages people from being jerks online to begin with. Not to mention they have an awesome content delivery system. Sorry, but MS really got it right with xbox live, IMO it was the best feature of the original xbox.

agreed, and whoever knocks xbox live has most likely never used it before.

i do not know one person who has used xbox live and says that online gaming on any other console, or even PC, is better than it. hell just compare playing Halo 2 on system link using tunneling software and then go play it on xbox live ... tell me which one is better.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: aswedc
If I wanted to play games with ****** graphics I'd just use my PS2. Not paying $250 just for the Wiimote.

wtf wiimote is $250?!?!

No, the entire system is... and less than that.
But after playing the Eyetoy stuff and Antigrav on PS2, I think there's a lot of potential for a motion sensing controller.

 

[UpgradeFailure]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Attn: BlancoNino

Let's take a popular FPS title like, I don't know, Counter-Strike.

You think that would work nearly as well if you had to hunt down each server by "friend code" (IP address) that you wanted to play on, instead of hitting "Refresh master server list", checking "Ignore empty/full" and sorting by ping?

Oh, that's right. It would suck like a supercharged Hoover.

- M4H

Although Nintendo uses friendcodes, games like Mario Kart don't require them. You can just quick match or whatever and play with other people you don't know. So I don't see why Wii games can't do that too.

This is like the third time I've said this in this thread -

The Wii is using the same matchmaking and friendcodes system as the DS.

I know, I am just concurring that it isn't like you have to play only using friend codes, you can still do random matches

 

[aswedc]

Wii = 2x better than Gamecube
Xbox 360, PS3 = Real next gen

2x PS1
Real "Next Gen" (Xbox)

Enjoy your Wii a couple years from now...

 

[WraithETC]

If you have never used Xbox Live you have no idea how much of a clean and efficient package it is. It makes online gaming a seamless feature for every game that uses it. PS2 online and any other console that have tried online don't come even close. Xbox live is much closer to uniform online pc gaming (pc gaming features but put into one package + cost). That's also a reason I'm looking forward to "Live Anywhere," I think if Microsoft can bring that feeling of xbox live to pc gaming it will help it alot.

 

[Fritzo]

Weeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: aswedc
Wii = 2x better than Gamecube
Xbox 360, PS3 = Real next gen

2x PS1
Real Next Gen

It's still the about the games. Nintendo has gone off on its own path with the wiimote. Will it work? That remains to be seen, but considering the fantastic games the DS has generated even in the face of the graphically superior PSP, my money is on the Wii being a great system to own.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: aswedc
If I wanted to play games with ****** graphics I'd just use my PS2. Not paying $250 just for the Wiimote.

sorry, but graphics don't make the game. gameplay does. i'll take great gameplay over great graphics any day.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: aswedc
If I wanted to play games with ****** graphics I'd just use my PS2. Not paying $250 just for the Wiimote.

sorry, but graphics don't make the game. gameplay does. i'll take great gameplay over great graphics any day.

that's what I tell my friends when they look at me funny when I tell em SF2 is the best game on xbox360 lol. sunday my friend came over and was like "why are you playing super nintendo games on your xbox360?" heh

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Thraxen

Originally posted by: aswedc
Wii = 2x better than Gamecube
Xbox 360, PS3 = Real next gen

2x PS1
Real Next Gen

It's still the about the games. Nintendo has gone off on its own path with the wiimote. Will it work? That remains to be seen, but considering the fantastic games the DS has generated even in the face of the graphically superior PSP, my money is on the Wii being a great system to own.

This is supposed to be the current Wii launch lineup:

* Avatar: The Last Airbender
* Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII
* Blitz: The League
* Call of Duty 3
* Cars
* Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2
* Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors
* Elebits
* Excite Truck
* Far Cry
* GT Pro Series
* Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers
* The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
* Madden NFL 07
* Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
* Metal Slug Anthology
* Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
* Monster 4x4 World Circuit
* Need for Speed: Carbon
* Open Season
* Rayman Raving Rabbids
* Red Steel
* SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature from the Krusty Krab
* Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
* Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam
* Trauma Center: Second Opinion
* Wii Sports

If nothing else, it has numbers.

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: aswedc
If I wanted to play games with ****** graphics I'd just use my PS2. Not paying $250 just for the Wiimote.

sorry, but graphics don't make the game. gameplay does. i'll take great gameplay over great graphics any day.

that's what I tell my friends when they look at me funny when I tell em SF2 is the best game on xbox360 lol. sunday my friend came over and was like "why are you playing super nintendo games on your xbox360?" heh

A bit off track here... Are you looking forward to SotN on XBLA? I know I sure am. I can't wait to see what they do in terms of accomplishments